HBO adaptation of Game of Thrones - will this be just for nerds? (NO SPOILERS PLEASE)

id just like to be able to talk abt a tv show on ilx from the perspective of watching it w/o the weird prosumer expert complex angle

we shd def to an autoreplace for arc

showrunner, trope, callback

thank god we're finally discussing the critics' critics' critics; was afraid this was gonna be about something stupid like the girl riding the dragon away into the sunset

right on time

Stannis is from an island on the east coast.

wow - many xposts

i lol'd

I'm trying to figure out if Stannis the Law Abider and Stannis the Religious Zealot are compatible, if being a Law Abider segues into buying wholesale into Melisandre or if there's a disconnect

― 龜, Tuesday, June 9, 2015 3:17 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

feel like stannis has clearly made the decision to sacrifice rules for principles where they diverge and its causing him a lot of stress!

poor stannis he's very stressed :(

needs 2 chill, davos shdve suggested just kicking back w a brew instead of attacking

also if I were the 20 dudes in the night i probably would have just burned stannis's tent

showrunner, trope, callback

― lag∞n, Tuesday, June 9, 2015 3:24 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i mean those terms do have their applications, but obviously are overused by numerous folks

i think there's a reasonable compromise to be reached between not criticizing stuff and criticizing it in a way that creates tablet-carved objective standards of What Televised Storytelling Is and What This Means to TV As A Whole And Society and all that shit - ideas which inherently involve so much subjectivity - and i'm not sure many critics do that well. (alan sepinwall is one of the few tv critics who can talk about that macro stuff w a sense of perspective while also being an incisive critic of scenes/performances/writing etc. others can do one or the other maybe usually not both.)

feel like their strategy was pretty good except they didnt know stannis cld just sacrifice his daughter to fix everything xp

ramsay is dumb, prob stupidly holding out for some hope of getting to kill stannis in some public fashion to make his daddy love him

cldve just not known where stannis was too

wish they would have shown some of the ramsay raid stuff, i'd much prefer that over whatever is happening in dorne

its sad that dorne wasnt cooler i was looking forward to dorne for years

i liked her speech abt how incest was nbd in dorne tho, also when he got elbowed in the face, and when she dumped the wine out, the dornish seem like goos folks

dorne kinda looks like a real ren faire in a way that the other ren faire-ish places in GoT don't

like the jousting tournaments don't look like a ren faire jousting tournaments they just look like a jousting tournament? dorne is like, welcome to dorne try your luck with the wheel o fate for 2 farthings, and don't forget to try the lemonade

id just like to be able to talk abt a tv show on ilx from the perspective of watching it w/o the weird prosumer expert complex angle

as if this thread ever gets that detailed - like a few lines on plot among the discussions of the show itself hardly counts as everyone playing the critic - but even if it did, that would be what people were discussing. also maybe if this season wasn't so shit people would be more hyped to talk about it - like i don't recall much dissection of last week's ep cos it was good.

little known GoT fact is that there is a guy chomping down on a giant turkeydog in every dorne scene, if you look closely

that was supposed to be turkeyleg but a turkeydog may be involved as well

dorne was basically just there for the mission we didnt really get to be immerced in dornish life like we had longed for

a turkeydog named torkdyg

stannis is about what he thinks is right rather than the law per se. if the two diverge he will go with the former. his spirit word is "should". the spiritual dimension of should is fate and all the mystical bullshit has dragged him too far in that direction so that should be king > shouldn't burn your kid alive.

Maybe the Dorne stuff was like the Braavos stuff in Season 4... we get a little taste of what the place is like, and perhaps later Dorne will become important to the core story. It may be the ideal place for a last stand against the walkers if it comes to that.

well said xp

tbf it is warmer there even in winter i'd guess, that could maybe fuck w/ the walkers

i don't think it's spoilery to say that the introduction of dorne and crew is not for nothing in the grand scheme but the way the show went about it was a bit more rub even than the way the books did. still i don't mind the dorne stuff, i like the flavour of it. i guess reading the books you are sort of trained to roll with weak tangents.

Probalby should have been more scorpions to make it mor realistic

i liked dorne more when i thought that the people there would be similar in temperament to oberyn, but everyone else there seems to be permacranky.

too italian not enough spanish

I assume the importance of the Dorne stuff will be the symbolic "enemies can get along if they overcome need for revenge" thing

plus if there's a sincere alliance with Dorne, maybe the Lannisters will be able to climb out of their ditch

also they needed jamie out of the house so cersei cld hit rock bottom

I'm assuming the Dorne stuff will get more important at some point (next season I guess). Oberyn's brother seems like he could be an interesting character if they give him something to do (he seems like a smart and rational politician, much like Tywin).

he seems like a person who might care about other ppl so i assume hell be assassinated and replaced by a sociopath

lol

the plot twists on this show are good enough to send viewers into a tizzy every few episodes - ppl don't write thousands of think pieces about writing/television that isn't doing its job correctly

It used to, I think it's been resting on its laurels this entire season.

Really, how?

q: didn't dany only marry hizdahr zo loraq to solidify her rule bc he was seen as an emblematic figure in the landowner former slaveowner community? so was he stabbed bc his marriage to the abolitionist was seen as a betrayal? were we supposed to wonder if he was leading the harpys but this indicates he wasn't?

It's hard to say what the motivations of the various characters in that scene are given that Hizdahr doesn't die in that scene in the book (and it doesn't play out the same way in general).

x-post: Yeah, that weird plot twist really sends you into a tizzy, with so many unanswered questions to mull over at length, perhaps in writing. I guess the writing really did it's job correctly on that one!

your post is written in a snarky tone but i don't understand what the snark is. i haven't argued that him dying in that scene was a product of bad writing.

ppl who write their own versions of television shows are not critics fyi, they are fan-fic writers

I'm just kidding. Killing off Loraq seems weird and not really thought through, like a lot of changes they've made.

Speculating about better versions of things you dislike is something critics does all the time, btw. Ebert used to do it over and over.

this is the best season bc no bran

feel like occasionally they shd cut to him so we know he is still inside a tree

well...this is not really a spoiler as such, but if you go through every episode of this season, you will see at some point there is a tree with eyeholes shuffling around in the background.