Prompted by this news item:http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynewspoint/20100809/ts_ynewspoint/ynewspoint_ts3376
Does anyone else find the image of a sinking ship particularly sublime/terrifying? These are always very powerful images to me.
http://l.yimg.com/a/i/ww/news/2010/08/09/mumbaiship.jpghttp://d.yimg.com/a/p/rids/20100809/i/r825377673.jpg?x=400&y=249&q=85&sig=GnlRlbnDAe.ODYw6gSFAyw--
― Tolaca Luke (admrl), Monday, 9 August 2010 19:41 (fourteen years ago) link
http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/714456_sunken_ship.jpg
http://www.presstv.ir/photo/20091218/gholizadeh20091218014537406.JPG
― Tolaca Luke (admrl), Monday, 9 August 2010 19:42 (fourteen years ago) link
I always get freaked out by seeing the hull of a ship, even when it is just in a boatyard or whatever. I experience a kind of vertigo.
― Tolaca Luke (admrl), Monday, 9 August 2010 19:43 (fourteen years ago) link
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/40/83086962_080348f620_z.jpg
― Tolaca Luke (admrl), Monday, 9 August 2010 19:45 (fourteen years ago) link
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/38/83086929_9b675c87ae.jpg
http://www.worldofstock.com/slides/PRE1772.jpg
― dyao, Monday, 9 August 2010 19:49 (fourteen years ago) link
I'd never have thought to vertigo at that lot 'til you mentioned it, and now that's precisely what's happening to me. Excellent.
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 9 August 2010 19:50 (fourteen years ago) link
that one rusting on the beach is kind of beautiful
― elephant rob, Monday, 9 August 2010 19:52 (fourteen years ago) link
what an amazing pair of pics.
What gets to me is the sight of an underwater hull, seen from above the water. This REALLY creeps me out, even to the point in GTA:Vice City, when I took a little boat over one of the 2 wrecks that are there as set dressing I'd get a bit uncomfortable.
― Take my hand, we'll make it I swear (Pashmina), Monday, 9 August 2010 19:58 (fourteen years ago) link
This kind of thing, urgh:
http://www.vr8.org/tobermory/tober29.jpg
― Take my hand, we'll make it I swear (Pashmina), Monday, 9 August 2010 20:02 (fourteen years ago) link
or this:
http://n2canada.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/sunken-ship2.jpg
― Take my hand, we'll make it I swear (Pashmina), Monday, 9 August 2010 20:04 (fourteen years ago) link
totally
― Tolaca Luke (admrl), Monday, 9 August 2010 20:04 (fourteen years ago) link
You are not a very good admrl. Recommend demotion.
― thanks for the feedback (supra) (Phil D.), Monday, 9 August 2010 20:04 (fourteen years ago) link
Haha what
― Tolaca Luke (admrl), Monday, 9 August 2010 20:05 (fourteen years ago) link
Totally agree. Diving wrecks is uber-vertiginous, especially if they're big and the current is making inner-ear confusion happen. Something about being not-quite-where-you-thought-you-were (because the current moves you) + frame of reference being off-kilter (because wrecks are rarely straight) + inherent spookiness = utterly shuddersome. In a mostly fun way.
― Zora, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 14:06 (fourteen years ago) link
great thread
i agree with all these sentiments
a giant ship on its side like in picture 4 is just such a fucked up sight
― snooki stackhouse (s1ocki), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 14:08 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.ourkeyshome.com/images/wreck_adolphusbusch.jpg
― Zora, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 14:14 (fourteen years ago) link
http://forums.sportdiver.com/videos/files/photos/a8aa681aaa4588aL.jpg
― Zora, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 14:16 (fourteen years ago) link
http://equipmentusedfordiving.com/Technical_Diving_Equipment-Technican_diving_near_a_wreck.jpg
― Zora, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 14:17 (fourteen years ago) link
The awesome thing about sunken ships for me is when I'm out on the water, imagining how many of these are probably somewhere far underneath me. Sailing ships from long ago, freighters, little fishing boats, airplanes, jetskis maybe? All just resting there on the bottom. Somebody's tragedy just left there as the rest of the world keeps puttering along on the surface above.
― more lunacy and witchcraft! (kkvgz), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 14:18 (fourteen years ago) link
(Wish I could dive, but I had a lung problem that prevents me from doing so).
― more lunacy and witchcraft! (kkvgz), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 14:19 (fourteen years ago) link
Another terrifying thing is, you see these pictures of wrecks and you're like "That's further underwater than the ship is tall - that's a lot of water!"
― more lunacy and witchcraft! (kkvgz), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 14:21 (fourteen years ago) link
I can't find a good picture of a really BIG wreck. Big ships are so much more like office blocks than boats, seeing them lying on the bottom at a 45% angle is mind blowing.
I'm not sure I'll dive again kkvgz. My ears get more awkward every year.
― Zora, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 14:27 (fourteen years ago) link
I really need to get my wreck diving and drysuit certifications. Lake Erie is FULL of wrecks at recreational diving depths.
Can't believe nobody's posted one of the classic wrecks:
http://www.ballslist.com/travel/hawaii/uss_arizona.jpg
― thanks for the feedback (supra) (Phil D.), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 14:32 (fourteen years ago) link
^ titanic
― snooki stackhouse (s1ocki), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 14:33 (fourteen years ago) link
http://richards-creations.net/Mich/3/fitzwreck-2.jpg
― more lunacy and witchcraft! (kkvgz), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 14:43 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.tgdaily.com/images/stories/article_images/research/michigan_stonehenge1.jpg
― more lunacy and witchcraft! (kkvgz), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 14:56 (fourteen years ago) link
Now that last one is spooky all right.
― Zora, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 14:57 (fourteen years ago) link
a painting, i believe, but still:
http://www.hacer.org/latam/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/SinkingShip-2.jpg
and yeah, these are all very powerful images. i wonder why they're so powerful.
― Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 10 August 2010 15:00 (fourteen years ago) link
one more, from ww2, i believe
http://ahoy.tk-jk.net/Images8/SinkingShip1.jpg
http://0.tqn.com/d/scuba/1/0/N/-/-/-/004372s.JPG
― Zora, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 15:01 (fourteen years ago) link
They're powerful images because they are such huge objects and seeing their vulnerability emphasizes our feelings of lack of control.
― Evan, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 15:35 (fourteen years ago) link
Pashmina's boat doesn't look vulnerable, though. It looks like it's going to hatch something that eats people.
― Zora, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 15:37 (fourteen years ago) link
I agree, though also the way a sunken ship viewed from above produces a milky outline of itself on the water's surface is like the perfect real-world ghost image
― Tolaca Luke (admrl), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 15:37 (fourteen years ago) link
Also the images of half-submerged or overturned ships freak me out more than seeing other disasters like fireballs or plane crashes because they are such subtle shifts in context. The ship is still there in the water, as it should be, but not in the right way. Hence the vertigo, maybe. The image of a sinking ship is also a a rare case of the less visible something is, the more calamitous the situation.
― Tolaca Luke (admrl), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 15:44 (fourteen years ago) link
http://i36.tinypic.com/11vje47.jpg
― I DIED, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 15:45 (fourteen years ago) link
Wow
― Tolaca Luke (admrl), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 15:45 (fourteen years ago) link
Looks like a shop. Where is it?
Is it morbid of me to want like a glossy photo book of these images?
― Tolaca Luke (admrl), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 15:46 (fourteen years ago) link
http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/petoskeynews.com/content/tncms/assets/editorial/1/f5/523/1f55231a-e0f6-11de-a999-001cc4c03286.image.jpg
― Danny Dyer (dan m), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 15:46 (fourteen years ago) link
http://i37.tinypic.com/r09fg6.jpg
― I DIED, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 15:47 (fourteen years ago) link
http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/01/0b/fe/39/scapa-flow-german-battleship.jpg
The scuttling of the captured German battleships at Scapa Flow has been in a few Scottish news features recently - I think it was some anniversary involving Ernest Cox, the man who bought raised the wrecks.
― textbook blows on the head (dowd), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 15:49 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/images/news/photos/2008/06/24/ferry-cp-5080884.jpg
― I DIED, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 15:50 (fourteen years ago) link
xp ooh that last one is eeeeeerie
― pies. (gbx), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 15:50 (fourteen years ago) link
Wow that's also a great picture. Thank you so much for contributing. I like how the ship looks like it is being reclaimed by the landscape
xxp
― Tolaca Luke (admrl), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 15:50 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RV8MF-440xg
― Jarlrmai, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 15:54 (fourteen years ago) link
http://i34.tinypic.com/n3atl1.jpg
― I DIED, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 15:54 (fourteen years ago) link
LOL @ voiceover
"blasted in TWO...but there are NO casualties"
That's like a really fucked up episode of Mythbusters
xp
― Tolaca Luke (admrl), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 15:56 (fourteen years ago) link
Jarlrmai for the win.
― more lunacy and witchcraft! (kkvgz), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 15:57 (fourteen years ago) link
http://destinsharks.com/wp-content/uploads/IMG_4988_cover_small.jpg
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 11 August 2010 00:06 (fourteen years ago) link
This page is U&K for the backstories on some of these: http://www.artificialowl.net/2009/05/10-most-spectacular-shipwrecks-from.html
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 11 August 2010 00:07 (fourteen years ago) link
these parts in manufactured 1andscapes were eerie (and sad)
http://thedailydoss.com/wp-content/uploads//2009/03/shipbreaking_27.jpg
http://acc.english.ucsb.edu/events/SHB_21_00.jpg
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 00:09 (fourteen years ago) link
BTW, this book is mandatory for anyone interested in sunken treasure, wreck history, etc.
http://www.fawcettadventure.com/fawcett-images/Ship%20of%20Gold.jpg
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 11 August 2010 00:15 (fourteen years ago) link
More to the point, if I had lottery money I'd bankroll a full-time ILX treasure hunting team. Even if we found nothing, we've have a great time, party, beer, etc.
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 11 August 2010 00:17 (fourteen years ago) link
It didn't capsize, but this 2005 footage of a cruise ship in a storm does not look fun at all:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tChJ2fBKw6w
― I DIED, Wednesday, 11 August 2010 00:17 (fourteen years ago) link
big one's just after the 1:00 mark
― I DIED, Wednesday, 11 August 2010 00:18 (fourteen years ago) link
omg barfthis might be some noise band's video fyi
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 00:22 (fourteen years ago) link
cousteau is always good for some shipwreck wrecking - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPBwwOzP3sA
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 00:23 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.oceanlinerlapelpins.com/NormandieNY.jpg
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 11 August 2010 00:29 (fourteen years ago) link
this looks like a fun place to set up a colony of noise dudes
― dyao, Wednesday, 11 August 2010 01:02 (fourteen years ago) link
elvis, is one of yours upthread from the aral sea? aral sea GIS brings up a lot of good stuff because, well, it's like 10% as big as it used to be. kind of lol but mostly sad.
http://unimaps.com/aral-sea/aral-pic.gifhttp://www.gly.uga.edu/railsback/CTW/AralSeaBoats.jpeghttp://java.nationalgeographic.com/studentatlas/clickup/images/water.jpghttp://farm1.static.flickr.com/162/375546549_c6f7cf0c2f.jpghttp://www.payvand.com/news/09/mar/Kazakhstan-Aral-Sea-is-largely-dry.jpghttp://knowledge.allianz.com/nopi_downloads/images/aral_sea_z.jpg
― dyao, Wednesday, 11 August 2010 01:06 (fourteen years ago) link
fascinating article about salvaging sunken ships
― the legendary sirius trixon (m coleman), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 01:11 (fourteen years ago) link
The Aral Sea has a lot of of wrecks, but the one I posted is the Eduard Bohlen which wrecked on Namibia's Skeleton Coast in 1909. There's nearly a 1000 wrecks of various vintages there.
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 11 August 2010 01:20 (fourteen years ago) link
wow, the skeleton coast sounds like something out of a fantasy novel
― dyao, Wednesday, 11 August 2010 01:23 (fourteen years ago) link
http://northamericatravel.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/lake_huron_shipwreck.jpg
― Danny Dyer (dan m), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 01:24 (fourteen years ago) link
Wow. I love these pictures. Great idea Admrl.
― o sh!t a ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (ENBB), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 01:27 (fourteen years ago) link
Where the hell is rrrobyn's from?
― more lunacy and witchcraft! (kkvgz), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 01:28 (fourteen years ago) link
there is a shipwreck right off the beach closest to me that only appears about every 20 years (or so) during extreme low tides. last appearance was in 2007:
http://www.sfgate.com/c/pictures/2007/05/10/ba_wb_ship.jpghttp://neveryetmelted.com/wp-images/KingPhilip2.jpghttp://imgs.sfgate.com/c/pictures/2007/05/10/ba_ship_ph1_bw.jpg
― _▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂_ (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 01:31 (fourteen years ago) link
It seems that there's no kind of fantasy/imaginary setting or landscape that isn't being topped by reality at this very moment.
― textbook blows on the head (dowd), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 01:33 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.flickr.com/photos/thefigureofoutward/505425994/
― _▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂_ (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 01:33 (fourteen years ago) link
I believe they're from the ship breaking yards in India and Bangladesh
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 11 August 2010 01:33 (fourteen years ago) link
go see Manufactured Landscapes (the doc she's referring to) if you haven't!
― _▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂_ (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 01:34 (fourteen years ago) link
The SS Palo Alto. Not quite a wreck in the traditional sense as she was used as a dance hall in the 20s before becoming part of a pier. What's weird is that she's made out of concrete. Check out http://www.concreteships.org/
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/41/Palo_Alto_sunset.jpg
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 11 August 2010 01:40 (fourteen years ago) link
Well familiar with it (everyone should see it!)
or just check out burtynsky's website:http://www.edwardburtynsky.com/
click on ships > shipbuilding
― snooki stackhouse (s1ocki), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 03:59 (fourteen years ago) link
i mean shipbreaking
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Q-PuSGjFHvY/SCSj4rL9Y8I/AAAAAAAAAUQ/ty9za1RZqHU/s640/2002_0908_123948AA.JPG
Would like to live here. Maybe in the wreck.
― jabulani hands (S-), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 04:43 (fourteen years ago) link
Just remembered that Millbrook Quarry in Haymarket, VA, where I took my open water dive training, has two pleasure boats, an airplane, a panel van and a school bus sunk in it. They use the school bus to teach the basics of wreck penetration -- GIS shows someone took a picture from inside.
http://www.divebums.com/week/Nov28-2005/bus_michael-strickland.jpg
― a mix of music (Lionel Ritchie) and kicks (my tongue) (Phil D.), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 11:13 (fourteen years ago) link
going through this thread slowly, savouring it up. great stuff.
― F-Unit (Ste), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 12:27 (fourteen years ago) link
Elvis, yr link above doesn't work, but SHIP-BREAKING YARDS are a real thing???? OMG fascinated. I mean of course they are, wires and metal and everything is worth something. I just read about them in a post-apocalyptic book and figured they were a figment!
― Jesus doesn't want me for a thundercloud (Laurel), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 13:15 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/locations/ship-breaking.shtml
― caek, Wednesday, 11 August 2010 13:30 (fourteen years ago) link
I was the production guy on this book --
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41M0FF6BX1L._SS500_.jpg
drum-scanning a couple hundred amazing underwater images and doing the color-correction and touch-up (with the author/photographer hanging over my shoulder the whole time). I don't know if Bailey managed to get copies of the digital files when the printing company went under, but I hope he did. Some amazing stuff.
― My totem animal is a hamburger. (WmC), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 14:04 (fourteen years ago) link
One of the better books I read last year.
xp What printing company??
― Jesus doesn't want me for a thundercloud (Laurel), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 14:05 (fourteen years ago) link
Hoµse of Sten0 in Redding, CA. The owner just this summer got out jail for fraud/embezzling committed back in '98-'01. Big idiot turned down a plea agreement that would have had him out in 18 months -- "oh I can totally win this at trial." Haw!
― My totem animal is a hamburger. (WmC), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 14:09 (fourteen years ago) link
http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/1010/GhostShipTrails_kotsiopoulos.jpghttp://apod.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html
― Trip Maker, Friday, 29 October 2010 13:13 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2011/04/artificial-reefs-around-the-world/100042/
― vampire weeknd (cozen), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 20:40 (thirteen years ago) link
http://imagecache6.allposters.com/LRG/27/2759/K24TD00Z.jpg
― omar little, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 20:51 (thirteen years ago) link
not quite the same but hey how about some terrifying deck washes and "bow plows"
http://www.hydrolance.net/Common/CAT-waveCrash.jpg
― omar little, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 20:56 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.hydrolance.net/Common/RoughSeas-DeckWash.jpg
― omar little, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 20:57 (thirteen years ago) link
I like the underwater sculptures!
― lively and fuiud (Pashmina), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 21:07 (thirteen years ago) link
<3 this thread so much
― Confused Turtle (Zora), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 22:09 (thirteen years ago) link
Can't believe this has been missedhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-13059842
― not_goodwin, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 22:22 (thirteen years ago) link
Those underwater sculptures are amazing!
― Concubine Tree (Trayce), Thursday, 14 April 2011 07:17 (thirteen years ago) link
WOW! I thought I was the only person who has a visceral reaction to images of sinking/abandoned or already sunken ships! Funny thing though, I'm terrified of standing on a pier next to a huge ship (I feel like it might tilt over on me) and I would NEVER navigate close to one that's anchored in a pier while on a smaller vessel (looking up at one gives me the creeps as well), BUT I'm not afraid of being ON one. Weird??? I live in Florida and have visited the naval ships when they're here and offer visiting tours. I've even been cruising. I guess its a fascination/fear thing with me.
― Veronie, Thursday, 8 January 2015 19:27 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7t4xu_LxQtg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_battleship_Imperatritsa_Ekaterina_Velikaya
After the February Revolution she was renamed Svobodnaya Rossiya (Russian: Свободная Россия, "Free Russia") on 29 April 1917. She sailed from Sevastopol to Novorossiysk on 30 April 1918 as German troops approached the city.[8] The ship was scuttled on 19 June 1918 by four torpedoes fired by the destroyer Kerch in Novorossiysk harbor to prevent her from being turned over to the Germans as required by the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk.[9] The fourth torpedo caused a massive explosion and she capsized and sank in four minutes.[9] No attempt was made to salvage her during the 1920s, but the 12-inch shells were salvaged from her wreck. Explosive charges were used to gain access to her magazines until one day in 1930 when a charge set off a torpedo warhead, which caused a nearby powder magazine to explode, throwing a column of water 100–120 metres (330–390 ft) into the air. No one was injured, but salvage work of this type ceased,[10] although parts of her engines and boilers were later salvaged.[11]
― small doug yule carnival club (unregistered), Saturday, 5 March 2016 03:02 (eight years ago) link
fantastic thread. I didn't know so many other people were freaked out by undersides of huge ships. I've finally come home!
― never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Saturday, 5 March 2016 05:09 (eight years ago) link
another thing that creeps me out in a similar fashion: huge, massive rivers, especially flowing past large cities.
― never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Saturday, 5 March 2016 05:11 (eight years ago) link
the St. Lawrence around Montreal, for example. under those huge bridges. all of lake Ontario in motion underneath. giant sturgeon and alligator gar prowling the bottom. tumor-laden carp. sewage. rocks coated in slime. body parts. absurd whirlpools and frigid, pitch-dark depths.
I had a group of friends who actually got into scuba diving & spearfishing in the lovely waters around Montreal. I've never found an invitation easier to decline in my life... and it's not because I'm "risk-averse", believe me.
― never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Saturday, 5 March 2016 05:22 (eight years ago) link
This real time simulation of the sinking of the Lusitania is kind of freaky:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gB7uFyH7bIs
― Josefa, Saturday, 5 March 2016 06:24 (eight years ago) link