― V, Sunday, 28 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
You got that straight, mister? Or do you need a little visit with Mr. O'Reilly and his birch rod to learn the difference between what's creepy and what's disturbing? It's your choice.
― Aimless, Sunday, 28 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
Because it's owned by a right-wing asshole (equally hated on both sides of the Atlantic), run by another right-wing asshole who's responsible for that fascist shit Rush Limbaugh, and has a bunch of screaming right-wing assholes?
Well, that's why I find Fox so disturbing. It's the closest any American media outlet has come to intentionally aping Pravda and TASS.― Tadeusz Suchodolski, Sunday, 28 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tadeusz Suchodolski, Sunday, 28 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― V, Monday, 29 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― dave q, Monday, 29 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
of course, that's all probably part of the plan though. if she was an old fugly woman she'd probably only get a radio show, a la rush, not be featured on every cable news show that needs a conservative commentator on the air
― Maria, Monday, 29 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Kris, Monday, 29 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Robin Carmody, Monday, 29 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 29 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dan Perry, Monday, 29 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
if Fox had Glen Benton (the crazy Satanist lead signer of Deicide) as one of its anchors, it would be the coolest network ever (even with the right-wing crap).
― Tadeusz Suchodolski, Monday, 29 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
One of their weekend reporters was on the other day and he gave about three sentences of highly opinionated BS toward the tail end of his slightly slanted report. And then he said, "Fox News: we report, you decide." What a joke.
― Andy K, Tuesday, 30 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
Um, sorry Ann but you ain't all that.
I'm not saying she's ugly by any means, but I don't think she's anywhere near as attractive as she seems to think she is.
― Nicole, Tuesday, 30 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
Doh! *SMACKS FOREHEAD* My wife just reminded me that Abrams is on MSNBC.
Anyhow, getting back. Didn't Fox come up with the "Jihad Johnny" nickname?
― dan, Tuesday, 30 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
Yeah it's them. It's also sort of funny to see them continually trying to re-focus on the "war" in the past few weeks when everyone else was reporting on corporate malfeasance. And that morning show is the best, with those two very unfunny guys - one of them literally is the weatherman - and that Edi (sp?) girl, who's just about the brightest person on the network. It's as if murdoch or ailes pick the female anchors they would most want to sleep with in the perfect worlds
― V, Tuesday, 30 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― keith, Tuesday, 30 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― charles odell, Thursday, 5 September 2002 11:41 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Robotrix Hendressoon, Sunday, 13 April 2003 15:44 (twenty-one years ago) link
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 13 April 2003 15:59 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Sunday, 13 April 2003 16:04 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Friday, 5 May 2006 11:47 (seventeen years ago) link
In comparison, CNN looks like they've lit their studios with flourescent lights. Their idea of hi-def is to have Wolf Blitzer walk around a big screen TV. We're talking about a network that had "Talk Back Live!" and that blog show where the two women click on the internet. Cameramen filming cameramen filming ordinary people. I get the idea that some CNN producers probably busted their chops on shows like "Donahue" and "That's Incredible!"
Fox is sharp and contrasted (in light and color only). CNN looks all washed out.
― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 5 May 2006 13:09 (seventeen years ago) link
― JW (ex machina), Friday, 5 May 2006 13:11 (seventeen years ago) link
Also WTF is the deal with talking points? Is this an undergrad lecture?
― JW (ex machina), Friday, 5 May 2006 13:16 (seventeen years ago) link
― -+-+-+++- (ooo), Friday, 5 May 2006 13:19 (seventeen years ago) link
― -+-+-+++- (ooo), Friday, 5 May 2006 13:27 (seventeen years ago) link
Red Eye - wtf is with this show? it's like mindbogglingly bad but in a way that I really wouldn't expect from Fox. It was like 5 straight minutes of Fox anchors and random creeps making poop jokes.
― clotpoll, Thursday, 12 June 2008 07:17 (fifteen years ago) link
I mean I assume it lasts longer but I couldn't take any more.
― clotpoll, Thursday, 12 June 2008 07:18 (fifteen years ago) link
I saw Andrew WK as a guest panelist on Red Eye once, and I could smell his intellectual contempt through the screen.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 12 June 2008 07:38 (fifteen years ago) link
http://images.salon.com/politics/war_room/2008/06/11/fox_obama/story.jpg
― The Brainwasher, Thursday, 12 June 2008 07:42 (fifteen years ago) link
"People have all these ideas about him," Rhodes says. "He's political, he's this, he's that. But really, every inch of that guy is a television producer. I believe that what he wanted to be was the greatest television producer in the history of the universe. It's almost incidental, the politics. It's all about being compelling, because that's the thing with Roger — even when he's not convincing, he's compelling. And that's what he wants you to be when you work for him. It's all about finding an edge, finding an angle, something that makes you different from the other guys."
from:http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/fox-news-hiring-4938161
and then this epic, epic character study:http://www.esquire.com/features/roger-ailes-0211
― Milton Parker, Thursday, 20 January 2011 01:00 (thirteen years ago) link
I couldn't finish that Esquire profile: the incessant use of the second-person pronoun grossed me out. Besides, Ailes told me what I needed to know last week after the Giffords shooting: he admitted that the left represents "the other side."
― Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 January 2011 01:01 (thirteen years ago) link
http://a57.foxnews.com/www.foxnews.com/images/root_images/0/0/beware_20140918_123859.jpg
― Nothing less than the Spirit of the Age (nakhchivan), Thursday, 18 September 2014 17:32 (nine years ago) link
does the american left no longer care abt fox news
AND THIS FAT SCHLUB IS THE ONLY THING PROTECTING YOU
― Welcome to my spooooooky carnival! Hope I don't... blow your mind! (Phil D.), Thursday, 18 September 2014 17:42 (nine years ago) link
Fox News and Limbaugh keep saying stupid things night after night, day after day
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 18 September 2014 18:54 (nine years ago) link
Hm, so I don't know if we've had a general 'best' Fox News thread but since the Dominion defamation trial is about to happen barring a last minute switchup, might want to start talking about it in more detail. Key thing to note is that the other week the judge overseeing proceedings in Delaware, Davis, in response to competing summary judgment claims shut out Fox News entirely, granted Dominion almost everything, and basically reduced the realm of what was left to discuss to whether actual malice was afoot (still a high bar re the NYT v Sullivan precedent, but now looking a lot more likely given a ton of defenses Fox could have used won't be applicable). So this week is pre-trial motion stuff and, in a very smart move, the Washington Post sent Erik Wemple over to cover it. His two threads from today are worth noting.
First, slightly threaded wrongly but more or less starting here, involved questions of 'newsworthiness,' which may seem random but is part of Fox News's defense. Clarifying, really:
Judge Davis warned lawyers not to make any argument in opening or closing that contradicts the judge’s ruling in the summary judgment phase of the litigation. “I will stop you,” he said, pledging to instruct the jury that the statement was erroneous. 3/— ErikWemple (@ErikWemple) April 11, 2023
As you can see, Davis rather notes that if they want to go that way, that opens up a huge problem for them:
To counter the newsworthiness point, Dominion lawyers, said Judge Davis, could press Fox News witnesses on whether they thought of having guests aside from Sidney Powell or Rudy Giuliani on their show to comment on the stolen-election claims. 8/— ErikWemple (@ErikWemple) April 11, 2023
Like then-President-elect Joe Biden. “Did you have him on?” asked Davis, acting in the role of a Dominion lawyer pressing a Fox New witness on the stand. “I could have a lot of fun with this case,” said the judge, to chuckling in the courtroom. 9/— ErikWemple (@ErikWemple) April 11, 2023
The second thread, though, introduces an interesting new wrinkle that is wonky but clearly has got Davis kinda pissed, and not at Dominion:
More from the courtroom in Dominion Voting Systems v. Fox News from the courtroom of Judge Eric Davis in Wilmington, DE: A lawyer for Dominion this afternoon issued a stern rebuke to how Fox News and its parent company, Fox Corp., have behaved on one key item in this case. 1/— ErikWemple (@ErikWemple) April 11, 2023
Drilling deeper:
The issue arose in a hearing last week. The Dominion lawyer said that after further inquiry, Fox News sent another list on Easter Sunday – which included the three officials above, PLUS Rupert Murdoch. Which is to say, the mogul is an officer of both Fox Corp. AND Fox News. 5/— ErikWemple (@ErikWemple) April 11, 2023
The upshot: From the beginning of this suit, said the Dominion lawyer, they have been blocked from securing key discovery documents relating to Rupert Murdoch – which is a reason why Dominion ended up filing a second suit against Fox Corp. (The cases have since been combined.) 6/— ErikWemple (@ErikWemple) April 11, 2023
Said the Dominion lawyer: “This alone has meant that we are missing a whole bunch of Rupert Murdoch documents alone that we otherwise would have been entitled to.” 7/— ErikWemple (@ErikWemple) April 11, 2023
We were pondering on the main Trump thread about why he didn't pardon himself and my own thought was narcissism combined with the idea that they thought they'd never be caught. Gotta say, that's starting to sound like Fox News as a corporate entity right about now in this situation -- almost any other time they'd have long worked out a settlement. Dominion didn't budge and now here we are.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 11 April 2023 21:00 (one year ago) link
Gonna be a hot summer.
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 11 April 2023 21:15 (one year ago) link
Still not clear to me if this will be televised or not. (If it is, how many of the people testifying will look noticeably different under random courtroom lighting as opposed to their polished TV presentations, I wonder.)
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 11 April 2023 21:18 (one year ago) link
I'm amazed that this case has not settled. I assume that's because Dominion is not willing to settle, since Fox absolutely wants to get out of this.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 11 April 2023 21:19 (one year ago) link
yeah I'm surprised too, this kind of shit never goes to trial. wonder if Dominion thinks their case is just that strong
― frogbs, Tuesday, 11 April 2023 21:23 (one year ago) link
Yeah my guess is Dominion figures the calculation is very much in their favor, and certainly after the initial summary judgment they barely have any reason to back down or change up. And who knows, they might even be altruistic about it!
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 11 April 2023 21:23 (one year ago) link
It's astonishing that there is hard evidence that the network acted with actual malice.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 11 April 2023 21:23 (one year ago) link
at best, Carlson seems like a half-hearted easter/christmas Christian... this speech sounds just as full of shit as everything he's been saying lately
Pray my ass
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 25 April 2023 22:50 (eleven months ago) link
Feel like Tucker long ago entered the realm where even he can't tell if he believes what he's saying. He's just been making so so so much money that he's been doing whatever he thinks it takes to keep the wheels turning.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 25 April 2023 22:57 (eleven months ago) link
one thing worth noting is that hes been racist his entire career so seems like he does believe in that
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 April 2023 22:59 (eleven months ago) link
did murdoch try to get married and fail this month? maybe he's compensating. that's my theory
― z_tbd, Tuesday, 25 April 2023 23:08 (eleven months ago) link
Rupe to fiancée: "Oh you like Tucker, do you? You like him?? Well, you'll have plenty of time to spend with him, he's FIRED!!"
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 25 April 2023 23:14 (eleven months ago) link
― lag∞n,
and in Swanson
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 25 April 2023 23:18 (eleven months ago) link
gotta love that meat money
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 April 2023 23:29 (eleven months ago) link
also pudding
― Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 00:04 (eleven months ago) link
lol
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 00:04 (eleven months ago) link
also wearing goggles on the tanning bed
― ꙮ (map), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 00:23 (eleven months ago) link
Never forget that Tucker’s mother abandoned him when he was six years old. Foresight is 20/20
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 00:29 (eleven months ago) link
Why do bash “dead-beat” dads for not being there for their kids but we never question if the child has bad vibes? Or if they’re just unpleasant to be around?— sadiq (@SadiqoJN) December 7, 2018
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 26 April 2023 00:38 (eleven months ago) link
Lol PK
― Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 01:35 (eleven months ago) link
Pentagon loves Tucker gone:
...But at the upper levels of the Defense Department, news of Carlson’s firing from Fox News on Monday was met with delight and outright glee in some corners.
“We’re a better country without him bagging on our military every night in front of hundreds of thousands of people,” said one senior DoD official, who like others interviewed for this story was granted anonymity to discuss a politically sensitive topic.
“Good riddance,” said a second DoD official.
Asked to respond to the news that DoD officials are pleased by his departure from Fox, Carlson responded by text message: “Ha! I’m sure.” He declined to comment further.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 26 April 2023 17:10 (eleven months ago) link
letthemfight.jpg
― papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 17:13 (eleven months ago) link
lol tuckers response pretty good
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 26 April 2023 17:28 (eleven months ago) link
In the message, sent to one of his producers in the hours after violent Trump supporters stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, Mr. Carlson described how he had recently watched a video of a group of men — Trump supporters, he said — violently attacking “an Antifa kid.”
It was “three against one, at least,” he wrote.
And then he expressed a sense of dismay that the attackers, like him, were white.
“Jumping a guy like that is dishonorable obviously,” he wrote.
“It’s not how white men fight,” he said. But he said he found himself for a moment wanting the group to kill the person he had described as the Antifa kid.
BREAKING: One of Tucker Carlson's redacted text messages from the Dominion trial was particularly troubling to Fox Execs. We've learned what it said. Read it here. w/@jimrutenberg and Jeremy Peters https://t.co/xfaA3S8Jb0— Michael S. Schmidt (@nytmike) May 3, 2023
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 3 May 2023 01:51 (eleven months ago) link
I’ll bet $1,000 this was leaked first because it’s one of the *less* inflammatory texts https://t.co/i1kaTXtU9P— Christopher Hooks (@cd_hooks) May 3, 2023
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 3 May 2023 02:04 (eleven months ago) link
Kind of an interesting point
What's interesting about that text is Carlson is more candid about his goonish racism & authoritarianism, and more troubled by where it is leading, than his defenders in the post-left like Glenn Greenwald. https://t.co/ENmMGfqkuw— Jeet Heer (@HeerJeet) May 3, 2023
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 3 May 2023 02:19 (eleven months ago) link
White men known as particularly dirty fighters iirc.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 3 May 2023 02:22 (eleven months ago) link
they should just show us the texts where he says slurs and whatnot theyre gonna get out eventually whats the point of this charade
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 3 May 2023 02:35 (eleven months ago) link
That text is going to make Tucker even more popular at CPAC or NatCon or whatever. Fantasizing about Antifas getting beaten to death is playing to the base.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 3 May 2023 02:43 (eleven months ago) link
And being super racist too!
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 3 May 2023 02:44 (eleven months ago) link
good reminder that those who we think "say the quiet part out loud" sometimes actually don't!!
― frogbs, Wednesday, 3 May 2023 02:49 (eleven months ago) link
I am sure Fox management was shocked, shocked that Tucker would say such things.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 3 May 2023 02:50 (eleven months ago) link
White people fight like this
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Wednesday, 3 May 2023 03:01 (eleven months ago) link
Maybe they were upset about the part where he expresses remorse.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 3 May 2023 03:08 (eleven months ago) link
you know that crazy high pitched laugh he did turn his show sometimes? the one that made his whole body convulse? the one that everyone said made him look like a psychopath? well, what if....
― frogbs, Wednesday, 3 May 2023 03:15 (eleven months ago) link
now i’m just thinking of the simpsons episode where the stand-up comic is doing the “white people drive like this” bit
― mh, Wednesday, 3 May 2023 13:09 (eleven months ago) link
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Tuesday, May 2, 2023 11:01 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Wednesday, 3 May 2023 13:46 (eleven months ago) link
sorry, used to being at work where we've got some people in their early 20s who have never watched the simpsons
― mh, Wednesday, 3 May 2023 14:14 (eleven months ago) link
So sad (gift link, read away)
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 5 May 2023 23:12 (eleven months ago) link
ah ok now its starting to make sense, tucker is a dummy
EXCLUSIVE: Tucker Carlson tried to push out Fox News' mega-powerful PR chief. It backfired spectacularly -- and helped set the stage for his own ouster.https://t.co/Mmjm4x9Z1P— Noah Shachtman (@NoahShachtman) May 8, 2023
― lag∞n, Monday, 8 May 2023 00:16 (eleven months ago) link
Hahah he tried to get rid of BRIGANTI? That's like someone trying to oust Coco Schwab as Bowie's key assistant from 1976 on -- never gonna happen.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 8 May 2023 00:27 (eleven months ago) link
"I am bigger than this network."
"You thought."
is it good when the people youre trying to persuade laugh at you
In some cases, executives laughed off Carlson’s attempt to get Briganti fired, assuring him and others that Briganti was not going anywhere anytime soon.
― lag∞n, Monday, 8 May 2023 00:52 (eleven months ago) link
Briganti “hates all the talent,” the former Fox News commentator says. “She was so disgusted by the level of fucked up idiots who work there, in her opinion, and had to clean up their messes and their overblown egos.”
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Monday, 8 May 2023 01:22 (eleven months ago) link
tough but fair
― lag∞n, Monday, 8 May 2023 01:24 (eleven months ago) link
What makes this all the more entertaining is that there's that third factor of the producer who felt pressured by Fox's lawyers in the Dominion discovery process and has since filed a separate suit, releasing snippets trashing Tucker further.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 8 May 2023 01:26 (eleven months ago) link
Given the way she speaks to the press on behalf of people she hates, I'm genuinely curious if there's anyone on earth Briganti likes, or if she's one of those uniquely NYC rich corporate types who genuinely loathes all of humanity, a character straight out of a Ballard novel.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 8 May 2023 01:42 (eleven months ago) link
Didn't Ailes hire her directly? Game recognize game.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 8 May 2023 01:43 (eleven months ago) link
For fun!
https://www.axios.com/2023/05/09/tucker-carlson-fox-news-letter-fraud
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 21:46 (eleven months ago) link
Jesse Waters takes the throne
https://www.wsj.com/articles/fox-news-names-jesse-watters-to-replace-tucker-carlson-as-anchor-of-8-p-m-hour-75a72fce
― Alito Bit of Soap (President Keyes), Monday, 26 June 2023 16:40 (nine months ago) link
Watters that is
― Alito Bit of Soap (President Keyes), Monday, 26 June 2023 16:41 (nine months ago) link
"Watt-ahs, that is!"
https://i.imgur.com/YKDH4dP.jpg
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 June 2023 16:42 (nine months ago) link
that dude creeps me out so much. he has this weird frozen half smile even as his guess rant about the craziest things.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 26 June 2023 16:47 (nine months ago) link
and Watters?
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 June 2023 16:47 (nine months ago) link
well, they're both big cocks, I'll give him that.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 26 June 2023 16:50 (nine months ago) link
Fox News announces new prime time lineup post Tucker Carlson firing:• 7 pm, Laura Ingraham • 8 pm, Jesse Watters• 9 pm, Sean Hannity • 10 pm, Greg Gutfeld Bring on the lies and conspiracy theories! pic.twitter.com/nXpxmlcnMR— Mike Sington (@MikeSington) June 26, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 26 June 2023 17:07 (nine months ago) link
I think Gutfeld may be my least favorite of these 4 shitbags, just perpetually smarmy and smirky
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 26 June 2023 17:09 (nine months ago) link