In an interesting reversal of life meets art I am fighting being given my own office.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 15:53 (twelve years ago) link
because....
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 15:55 (twelve years ago) link
Because:
I want to know what the team I manage is getting up to, they spend so much time on the floor If I'm not in with them I'd never see them
35 years of OB research says individual offices are bad for network forming and communications
I don't actually like working on my own
This isn't the 60s so I couldn't have a cocktail cabinet and our sexual harassment policy probably prohibits any goings on.
Even if I had an office I couldn't have a window as our new plant has been cleverly designed so there has to be crawl spaces for the fire rises against the walls. An openable window is my only dream as far as office space goes.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:05 (twelve years ago) link
i had a nightmare last night that i came into my office and it had been subdivided for four people
― Lil T the Bowed Jet (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:08 (twelve years ago) link
No desire for an ant farm or bonsai tree? (xp)
― Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:10 (twelve years ago) link
At the current location I dug a pond and stream system and have planters full of tomatoes and melons. I plan to do similar at the new place.
I did think about executive toys though:
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― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:15 (twelve years ago) link
More ILX time if your monitor away from the hallway.
― (Dre) vs. (Eazy), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:28 (twelve years ago) link
Not to derail too much but in our old floorplan our boss had the office at the end of our cubicle row, his door was always open so it was almost like a default 'cul de sac' cubicle, we could go in anytime and talk, he could hear/see us from where he sat, and it was really a good setup. Not always great for him getting work done, but our group always worked collaboratively and he encouraged it so it didn't seem to bother him.
Then they changed the layout, and now he's in an office away from our cubicle row, behind a wall of cubicles so we can't see/hear him and we may not see him for days unless we have to go into his office with a question or if he comes by to ask us something.
it's just kinda sucky.
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:40 (twelve years ago) link
I hate cubicle farms, have a hard time believing they actually are good for "network forming and communications" or whatever
― You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:43 (twelve years ago) link
I imagine their benefits are outweighed by the morale-crushing ant-farm impersonality
― You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:44 (twelve years ago) link
speaking of offices... did anyone else notice the decor in Harry's office?i loved it - complete opposite of 60's-trendy, like Rogers's office for example.
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:50 (twelve years ago) link
I am also anti-cubicle farms. I'm all for open plan. The highly functional manufacturing organisations I benchmark all have open plan, well lit engineering offices. Break-out rooms for meetings/quiet work sure but very open environment.
Harry's office was great but I can't help thinking his mother did his decorating.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link
i know everyone hates him here because he's unattractive - but dude knows how to classy-up an office!
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― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link
ha ha
yeah, it was pretty fusty. Gold framed picture etc.
― Number None, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link
HE HAS A WEE CANON ON HIS DESK!
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:52 (twelve years ago) link
also lol at Harry's work clothes being too large for him now
― You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:52 (twelve years ago) link
I like harry as much as Pete, I think I oscillate on a spectrum between their two characters.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:53 (twelve years ago) link
Does anyone have a gif of Pete's wistful sigh at Don's party?
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:54 (twelve years ago) link
i loved that
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:54 (twelve years ago) link
loved the argument between the two (Harry and Pete)Harry: i'm giving you my officePete: screw you.
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:55 (twelve years ago) link
^^^secretary was carrying a box with Pete's gun in it
― You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:56 (twelve years ago) link
He's had to keep that gun at the office for 6 years now.
― Mike Love Costume Jewelry on Etsy (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:58 (twelve years ago) link
this seems broadly relevant to discussions of don: http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/03/25/character-and-its-discontents/
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 17:02 (twelve years ago) link
sorta hope the series ends with Pete losing his shit and blasting Don out the window with his rifle
― You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 17:05 (twelve years ago) link
can't really see that happening - maybe more like barging into Don's office and nattering away at him until Don eventually loses it and hurls himself out the window.
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 17:07 (twelve years ago) link
yeah I can't really see it happening either it's just funny to envision
― You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 17:08 (twelve years ago) link
pete drops out grows a beard, becomes charlie manson
― Lil T the Bowed Jet (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 19:10 (twelve years ago) link
regardless of pete's indiscretions, it's still the only marriage where there's actual support happening.
― I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 19:13 (twelve years ago) link
Pete Campbell is our successful marriage role model.
― mh, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 19:15 (twelve years ago) link
:/
― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 19:18 (twelve years ago) link
never said that. fuck you all i am raging with every one of you.
― I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 19:24 (twelve years ago) link
this show's aggressive cynicism about marriage is actually one of the least convincing things about it, i think. that doesn't mean they have to present several "model marriages"--but i'd buy it more if they presented at least a few that were largely functional.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 19:29 (twelve years ago) link
i don't see it as cynicism abt marriage, really. i think it's a combination of basic soap opera relationship dynamics (the more conflict, betrayal and duplicity, the better) & cynicism abt the culture of madison avenue in the 60s. the guys around whom the show revolves are for the most part ambitious, selfish, petty and rather venal. makes sense that they'd have troubled marriages.
― preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 19:34 (twelve years ago) link
i dunno i think a lot of what's depicted is more in the realm of generalized "bad male behavior" than anything specific to madison avenue.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 19:38 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, that too, but there is something distinctive abt the entitlement of manhattan power-business types. overlapping circles: men, businessmen, 60s businessmen, madison avenue ad guys.
― preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 19:40 (twelve years ago) link
pssh, Pete's still married and has a cute wife and a kid, his life is awesome
― mh, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 19:45 (twelve years ago) link
otoh, he's a horrible, egocentric geek with frustrated delusions of grandeur, his life is hell
― preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 19:53 (twelve years ago) link
He's one of those people who is never going to be happy with what he has.
― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 19:55 (twelve years ago) link
Could see Pete getting involved with Est or some sort of encounter group in the 1970s
― Reality Check Cashing Services (Elvis Telecom), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 21:20 (twelve years ago) link
yes plz. would watch the fuck out of that plot development
― Mordy, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 21:36 (twelve years ago) link
omg
we need cult sideplots!
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 21:38 (twelve years ago) link
moonies please!
I thought something along those lines was going to happen when Don was crashing in Cali with those strange people in the house with the pool.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 22:07 (twelve years ago) link
The problem with EST is that it doesn't exist until the 70s.
― Mordy, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 22:10 (twelve years ago) link
elvis's "in the 70's" clarified that :)
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 22:16 (twelve years ago) link
also his and trudy's marriage is pitiful!
wan sham of a marriage
yeah this. Trudy is so good for him, encouraging his better tendencies and gently guiding him away from - not scolding or chiding him for - the worse ones she sees. and he genuinely likes and appreciates this, and her, and their life together. He rankles about ways she wants to live that he would prefer not to, but he does come to accept compromise, and not just add it to his pile of injustices re The Rise Of Pete Campbell to seethe about.
― ┗|∵|┓ (sic), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 23:08 (twelve years ago) link
I think the difference is that Pete and Trudy actually relate to each others as adults and peers - whatever their respective shortcomings (Pete's infidelities, Trudy's waspy conservatism) - and that's pretty much not the case with any of the other marriages depicted (which is really not that many - Joan and Dr. Rapey, Roger and Jane, Don and Betty/Megan, but that's pretty much it. Haven't seen much of Lane and his wife)
― You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 23:12 (twelve years ago) link
lane and his wife pretty clearly have no affection for each other whatever
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 23:14 (twelve years ago) link
oh I dunno. they've only been onscreen together for a grand total of like 5 minutes at the most
― You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 23:15 (twelve years ago) link