sally draper is the best. hahaha
― seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Monday, 9 April 2012 02:08 (twelve years ago) link
I'm actually enjoying Henry's mother in this one.
Scene in an Italian restaurant (bottle of red), was amazing.
― dan selzer, Monday, 9 April 2012 02:41 (twelve years ago) link
Holy shit, "Mystery Date" was a real game! I thought Simpsons writers made it up.
― Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Monday, 9 April 2012 02:53 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FITNb__0J80
― seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Monday, 9 April 2012 03:04 (twelve years ago) link
This was a hilarious episode until about halfway through when it got dark as fuck.
― LaMonte, Monday, 9 April 2012 03:30 (twelve years ago) link
Don's fever dream was unnecessary imo. The tension of will he/won't he has been neutered by being answered (he will, apparently).
Agree that Henry's mother was a guilty pleasure this week.
Also, WTG Joan!
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 9 April 2012 04:11 (twelve years ago) link
New guy reminds me of Chachi...of Happy Days and Joanie Loves Chachi.
― *tera, Monday, 9 April 2012 04:16 (twelve years ago) link
omg yes
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 9 April 2012 04:17 (twelve years ago) link
yah, fever dream was that bullshit
― wrapped sausage stylus (forksclovetofu), Monday, 9 April 2012 04:17 (twelve years ago) link
Ken Cosgrove's "you almost got fired right then" was awesome.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 9 April 2012 04:18 (twelve years ago) link
Thought it was just too gratuitous. Maybe it will become something poignant later.
― *tera, Monday, 9 April 2012 04:24 (twelve years ago) link
YES! was going to point this out last week but forgot. especially in profile.
― preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Monday, 9 April 2012 04:55 (twelve years ago) link
http://gif.mocksession.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/PEGGY-COUNTING-MONEY.gif
― Waxahachie Swap (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 9 April 2012 05:39 (twelve years ago) link
Peggy has the best gifs this season.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 9 April 2012 05:44 (twelve years ago) link
(and pretty much every season)
I loved this episode. I thought the fever dream worked okay since it was telegraphed pretty hard. I don't think it was much as a "will he/won't he" thing as a weird way of looking at how Don feels baout things in his new marriage and whatnot.
Sally Draper is the best. Peggy shouldn't get so drunk, but maybe she doesn't have much more tact when she's sober tbh. She's definitely a better negotiator than Harry Crane though.
Epic lols at Roger sneaking through the office behind Pete as Pink Panther-like music played.
― raw feel vegan (silby), Monday, 9 April 2012 06:03 (twelve years ago) link
If Peggy had just grabbed her purse from the coffee table in one fluid motion without stopping to think "OMG RACIST BEHAVIOR" it would've been no big thing. I'd take my wallet into my own room no matter who was staying over. It was nice of Dawn to leave a thank you note, though.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 9 April 2012 06:07 (twelve years ago) link
peggy-roger scene was probably the funniest thing in the history of the show. or maybe i'm just mad tired, i dunno. sally and henry's mother also a great duo.
― Boo-Yaa Too Rough International Boo-Yaa Empire (Merdeyeux), Monday, 9 April 2012 06:16 (twelve years ago) link
my take on don somewhat confirmed by this episode
and yeah, peggy and roger bartering was one my favorite moments in the show's history. moss really on top of her character there.
nice character bit: michael's moral revulsion when others found the murders exciting didn't prevent him from exploiting that excitement in his "dark" cinderella pitch. also intrigued by the creepy parallels between that pitch and the story of the speck murders as told to sally by betty's mother in law. both narratives revolved for a moment around the possibility of a stranger's handsomeness, though to very different ends. tied together in the middle by don's dream.
― preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Monday, 9 April 2012 08:23 (twelve years ago) link
god i had forgotten about those murders in chicago, christ. my mom says that was really, really upsetting to her.
felt like this was one of the better episodes of this show.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 9 April 2012 10:51 (twelve years ago) link
d'you guys take the 1st half of the woman in yellow's visit as real or dreamed? i like to think it was dreamed and in don's subconscious it's important to him that she'd point out that he was a good interior decorator
― johnny crunch, Monday, 9 April 2012 11:11 (twelve years ago) link
100% dream when she shows up at the apartment imo.
― raw feel vegan (silby), Monday, 9 April 2012 12:59 (twelve years ago) link
Yes, I doubt the elevator lady felt compelled to track down and then try to have sex with the sweaty coughing mess she saw in the elevator.
― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Monday, 9 April 2012 13:08 (twelve years ago) link
also if she hadn't seen him for six years she had fuck-all chance of finding where he lives now
I'd take my wallet into my own room no matter who was staying over.
otm, esp as she's used to living with a flatmate. this was v unfair to Peggy imo
― ┗|∵|┓ (sic), Monday, 9 April 2012 13:46 (twelve years ago) link
</capnsaveapeggy>
thought the purse thing was unsubtle and lame, right up to I LEFT YOU A NOTE ON YOUR PURSE YOU SECRET RACIST
― wrapped sausage stylus (forksclovetofu), Monday, 9 April 2012 14:33 (twelve years ago) link
I'm glad now that Greg didn't get killed in Vietnam because seeing him get told off and thrown out of the house was way more satisfying.
― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Monday, 9 April 2012 14:41 (twelve years ago) link
Tminus how many episodes until Peggy sleeps with Ginsberg
― I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Monday, 9 April 2012 14:48 (twelve years ago) link
He'll still get killed in Vietnam.
― wrapped sausage stylus (forksclovetofu), Monday, 9 April 2012 14:50 (twelve years ago) link
IMO, the purse thing wasnt to show Peggy's secret racism but more to show that race/racism as a social reality.
― ryan, Monday, 9 April 2012 14:51 (twelve years ago) link
I thought it was to show peggy as trying too hard, because lonely.
― s.clover, Monday, 9 April 2012 14:52 (twelve years ago) link
but I mean it was a great mad men moment because awkward and not too outrageously contrived and v. much of the time with a whole bunch of context and meaning and interpretation captured basically by deft editing and not much else.
― s.clover, Monday, 9 April 2012 14:54 (twelve years ago) link
also still LOVE the mystery date jingle
― Waxahachie Swap (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 9 April 2012 15:23 (twelve years ago) link
wait that was madchen amick
― Waxahachie Swap (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 9 April 2012 15:27 (twelve years ago) link
thought Henry's mother's knife underscored the "I AM SCARRING YOU, BETTY DRAPER" a bit too heavily but man those scenes were creepy/lol
― Disco Bob & MC Criminal (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 9 April 2012 15:28 (twelve years ago) link
seconal, passed out under the couch omg
er SALLY Draper
Giving Sally a downer a week after recommending Betty start taking uppers!
― Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Monday, 9 April 2012 15:40 (twelve years ago) link
peggy's purse faux pas was the capper on a kind of overall misfire on her part -- trying to reach out but really making everything about herself. I love glimpses into unguarded peggy's mind, but dawn was clearly hesitant to trust her and peggy was kind of bulldozing over her the whole conversation. which is unflattering to peggy but a totally worthwhile thing to highlight imo, the different levels of privilege occurring within SCDP itself.
― techno pink (reddening), Monday, 9 April 2012 15:44 (twelve years ago) link
Like we know we can trust Peggy, but her boozy "don't worry about it" attitude when Dawn asks her not to tell Don...it wasn't convincing at all.
― techno pink (reddening), Monday, 9 April 2012 15:46 (twelve years ago) link
by my count Roger's tally for bribing people in the office into doing things for him is up to $1410 so far this season
― dmr, Monday, 9 April 2012 16:18 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, kinda hoping this becomes a running gag.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 9 April 2012 16:21 (twelve years ago) link
trying to reach out but really making everything about herself
yeah def. and projecting her own career path/hopes and dreams onto Dawn in a way that was unintentionally really condescending. thinking that every secretary secretly wants to be a copywriter, etc
thought it was pretty well done the way the "white people problems" media anxiety over the student nurse murders overshadowed the riots. bumping it off the cover of Life magazine and Peggy saying "but you're not a nurse" ... oh.
― dmr, Monday, 9 April 2012 16:21 (twelve years ago) link
the Don dream kinda ruined the episode for me tbh. just lame.
― dmr, Monday, 9 April 2012 16:22 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, loved this. getting expensive for roger to get his way.
― preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Monday, 9 April 2012 16:25 (twelve years ago) link
I didn't think the Don-dream thing was so bad but the whole "sick fever dream of cheating/murder" was a total Sopranos rehash
― Disco Bob & MC Criminal (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 9 April 2012 16:29 (twelve years ago) link
loved the Peggy and Dawn scenes, so uncomfortable. wondering if Dawn is gonna get some actual background/characterization at some point
― Disco Bob & MC Criminal (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 9 April 2012 16:30 (twelve years ago) link
$1410 so far this season
Isn't that about $7-8,000 in 2012 dollars?
― Dancing with Mr. T (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 9 April 2012 16:31 (twelve years ago) link
but the whole "sick fever dream of cheating/murder" was a total Sopranos rehash
well yeah. that's why it sucked. sort of been done to death.
― dmr, Monday, 9 April 2012 16:32 (twelve years ago) link
the "I am so irresistable, even when totally sick" thing telegraphed it a bit
― Disco Bob & MC Criminal (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 9 April 2012 16:34 (twelve years ago) link