even more quiddities and agonies of the ruling class - a new rolling new york times thread

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Inside David Harbour and Lily Allen's 'Weird and Wonderful' Brooklyn Town House
The Stranger Things actor and British singer-actor created a family oasis with AD100 designer Billy Cotton and architect Ben Bischoff of MADE

mookieproof, Thursday, 2 March 2023 01:50 (one year ago) link

They could double date with Kate Nash and Ron Perlman

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 2 March 2023 02:54 (one year ago) link

I genuinely couldn't live more than a few days in a house/apartment that was furnished and decorated like that. It isn't really meant to be lived in, like every other living space that gets featured in Architectural Digest.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 2 March 2023 04:16 (one year ago) link

Yeah, that looks like an upmarket episode of Storage Wars. I couldn't spend the night in someplace that crowded with shit, never mind get any work done.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 2 March 2023 13:38 (one year ago) link

The video is nightmare-inducing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmHAvgEBnsk

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 2 March 2023 14:17 (one year ago) link

"as moderns" wtf !

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 2 March 2023 14:24 (one year ago) link

I have a feeling that since all these celebs have multiple homes, the ones they show AD or the Times are the ones they never actually live in.

Alicia Silver Stone (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 2 March 2023 14:43 (one year ago) link

One of the publishing world's quiddities is that Architectural Digest is not about architecture. Nor even interior design. It's about decorating.

nat king cole slaw (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 2 March 2023 17:40 (one year ago) link

What is the style of the Imperiolis' house? Late Restoration Throwup?

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 2 March 2023 17:43 (one year ago) link

Villa N’asty

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 2 March 2023 17:59 (one year ago) link

Imperioli looks so big in those photos and he’s not a big guy

calstars, Thursday, 2 March 2023 22:33 (one year ago) link

Doctor, my eyes!

Wile E. Galore (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 3 March 2023 15:12 (one year ago) link

Kind of surprised that's to Imperioli's taste tbrh! I thought this guy was an old indiepunk. Isnt he into like My Bloody Valentine and the Cocteaus and shit? Why is he living in a Palazzo Versace resort.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Saturday, 4 March 2023 04:25 (one year ago) link

he married an interior decorator

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 4 March 2023 04:28 (one year ago) link

And whats going on here in his "study"? A painting, hanging in front of several shelves of the bookcase?! Who is working in this room? I see no laptop, no phones, no papers.

https://media.architecturaldigest.com/photos/63d020858f41ccd2536b05f3/master/w_1920%2Cc_limit/2022_AD_Imperioli9698_edit.jpg

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Saturday, 4 March 2023 04:28 (one year ago) link

That room would make me too dizzy to work.

nickn, Saturday, 4 March 2023 04:33 (one year ago) link

He says he runs meditation sessions in there! with all that distracting clutter!

I mean I like clutter, you should see my house, every wall has something on it/against it/in front of it... but yeesh.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Saturday, 4 March 2023 04:47 (one year ago) link

the thing about david harbour and lily allen's home is funnier if you'd seen harbour's previous AD feature before they got married - his old loft had a completely different style! and actually seemed really cozy - lots of white space, plants, and books. guess the new house was decorated mostly to lily allen's taste.

Roz, Saturday, 4 March 2023 05:52 (one year ago) link

they say that repeatedly in the feature

least said, sergio mendes (sic), Saturday, 4 March 2023 07:33 (one year ago) link

Oh wow yeah that loft/warehouse space is great. I love the moroccan souk feel of that bathroom, i want one. I could not go from that to the overfussy barfarama townhouse. That cloth frill round the kitchen island is giving me anxiety hives.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Sunday, 5 March 2023 01:25 (one year ago) link

...you know, apparently hammam was the word I wanted there and not souk. Thats embarrasing.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Sunday, 5 March 2023 01:27 (one year ago) link

four months pass...

$2M “wedding nightmare” in Aspen due to audio malfunction, lawsuit saysM “wedding nightmare” in Aspen due to audio malfunction, lawsuit says - each sentence is worse than the one before until you get to the final one which is the only way it could end. I hope all the workers cashed those paychecks quickly

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 30 July 2023 00:58 (nine months ago) link

Paywalled

Moritz von Oswald von Wolkenstein (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 30 July 2023 01:41 (nine months ago) link

Works with ad blockers and/or 12ft.io

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 30 July 2023 01:44 (nine months ago) link

https://archive.li/U1rPS

papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 30 July 2023 01:45 (nine months ago) link

That lawsuit, filed in April, echoes many of the same complaints as Tuesday’s, according to media reports, but also claims that chairs at the reception were too heavy. As a result, guests couldn’t enjoy the horah, a traditional Jewish dance in which the bride and groom are carried on chairs.

get stronger friends IMO

papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 30 July 2023 01:47 (nine months ago) link

strong lede

mookieproof, Sunday, 30 July 2023 01:48 (nine months ago) link

The guy the NY Times found to defend legacy admits really hit it out of the park pic.twitter.com/tTFjZAqpsp

— Steven Klein (@stevenmklein) July 30, 2023

Here's the text from the NYT story, for those without X:

“In the real world, folks, this is how things go,” said Rob Longsworth, an investment manager who was the seventh in his family to attend Amherst College. “But this is ultimately not a zero sum game. If other people want these things, go get them. Do the work to establish such a tradition in your family, if that’s what they want to do.”

I want to establish a tradition in my family where we don't starve to death or die in ignominy. Still working on it. I will get back to you.

Steely Duran (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 31 July 2023 20:26 (nine months ago) link

"let them establish a tradition of eating cake in their families, if that's what they want to do."

got it in the blood, the kid's a pelican (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 1 August 2023 03:19 (nine months ago) link

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/11/magazine/marriage-trust-fund-ethics.html

I am a 44-year-old man and have been married to my spouse for 10 years. We’ve been together for 15. Unbeknown to my spouse, I have a trust fund that provides me with a monthly income of $25,000. When we first met, I said that I worked as a consultant, and they have never questioned this.

Number None, Sunday, 13 August 2023 17:43 (nine months ago) link

a monthly what of what now???

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 13 August 2023 17:45 (nine months ago) link

lol @ the previous week's "answer". such a garbage column.

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 13 August 2023 17:48 (nine months ago) link

My favorite part of that whole bonkers question is when he says that he and his spouse are "comfortably upper-middle-class" — on $300k a year in trust fund money plus whatever their hard-working DOCTOR spouse makes.

He wrote "unbeknown to my spouse" instead of "what my spouse doesn't know is" so that tells me enough about this asshole right off the top.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 13 August 2023 18:19 (nine months ago) link

two months pass...

https://i.imgur.com/R5wZhLT.png

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 09:58 (seven months ago) link

three weeks pass...

https://i.imgur.com/90VQzk0.jpg

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 18 November 2023 08:43 (six months ago) link

🧐

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Saturday, 18 November 2023 17:06 (six months ago) link

Yeah, they were murdered, and farms need still need to be able to grow food so people can eat it. Real quid ag.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Sunday, 19 November 2023 23:27 (six months ago) link

In Proclamation’s Wake, Plantations Scramble For Talent

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 20 November 2023 13:17 (six months ago) link

Ah yes, Hamas liberated a bunch of paid farm workers by gunning them down, great analogy

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 20 November 2023 14:08 (six months ago) link

Here's a gift article: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/14/world/middleeast/israel-farms-palestinians-thailand.html?unlocked_article_code=1._0w.f8j5.txKJ7TI8ES9m&smid=url-share

Some workers were killed or kinapped, though the vast majority left the country (Thai workers) or are prohibited from entering Israel (Palestinians).

This was probably the closest it gets to thread aptness, though it's certainly not specific to Israel: "Israel needs farmers, but the farmers need laborers to do the hard work of planting vegetables and picking fruit, milking cows and raising honeybees."

Though this is also striking:

After the Arab-Israeli War of 1967, Israeli farms began hiring workers from the occupied West Bank and Gaza. But in the 1980s new restrictions were imposed on Palestinians following the protests, violent riots and terror attacks of the intifada. Thais, who had been informally migrating to do field work, began receiving visas in much larger numbers.

“The sort of open gate for Palestinians closed,” said Adriana Kemp, a sociologist at Tel Aviv University who studies labor migration. “What I call the ‘great replacement’ began in the ’90s.”

Israeli growers who hired Thai workers found them a more regular labor force than Palestinians, who could be delayed at border checkpoints or barred from entering Israel.

But now, said Ms. Kemp, “for the first time, Israeli agriculture can’t rely on a continuous stream of workers.”

rob, Monday, 20 November 2023 14:36 (six months ago) link

Yes, Israel relies on migrant farm workers, just like the UK, the US, and pretty much every developed country.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 20 November 2023 15:38 (six months ago) link

True, that's what I was getting at by "not specific to Israel"; sorry if my wording there was too vague. But your claim that the lost workers "were murdered" or "gunned down" isn't accurate, given we're talking about 40,000 people, including 9,000 Palestinians. And there is, imo, something specific to Israel about 9k Palestinians acting as "migrant" farm workers in the first place.

rob, Monday, 20 November 2023 15:57 (six months ago) link

man alive I wasn’t trying to make a perfect analogy just trying to capture the obscenity of identifying with business imperatives during a time of genocide

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 20 November 2023 16:25 (six months ago) link


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