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I started up yoga again a few months ago after a 10+ year break. I had been getting pretty badly out of shape, plus suffering from neck/shoulder pain from compressed discs. My main weekly class is called Fundamentals of Ashtanga, which goes through the primary sequence of Ashtanga, but is a bit more lenient in terms of variations. I really like my teacher, she is the right mix of nice and supportive, but also serious about what she does. The class itself is very grueling, just about at the max physical limit for what I can endure, and that's even with all the things that I either can't do, do easier variations on, or just plain skip. Still I manage to keep up and am growing a bit more limber.

Outside of this class, I do whatever fits my schedule, usually somewhat less impactful classes. I don't love the whole heated room thing. It's been especially bad the last few weeks because the AC unit at the yoga studio has been busted, which isn't a good thing in Texas during the summer. Everyone else seems ok with it, so I'm just rolling with it.

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F♯ A♯ (∞), Wednesday, 13 July 2016 20:59 (seven years ago) link

I used to see longhair guys with ponytails in my yoga class pretty frequently. I shave my head, though.

Nicholas Nickelback (Leee), Wednesday, 13 July 2016 20:59 (seven years ago) link

I'm trying to work my way up to the full shave. Not sure I'm ready yet.

Buzzing is a weird thrill everybody should try at least once. You'll absolutely hate that you did it the first day, start to warm to it by day two or three, and then a few weeks later you'll start to get bummed that it's growing back

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qualx, Thursday, 14 July 2016 03:38 (seven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Any suggestions for a good ashtanga video on YT that gives room for variations (read: physical shortcomings)? I might have to start practicing on my own in the near future and don't have the entire primary series committed to memory yet.

Pleeesiosaur (Leee), Sunday, 7 August 2016 23:32 (seven years ago) link

my instructor helped me with a down dog variation on the wall that I really like & then the next class we did normal down dog like 5 times ;_;

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 8 August 2016 01:56 (seven years ago) link

time to bring your own wall

mh, Monday, 8 August 2016 02:19 (seven years ago) link

also i think i have finally gotten the hang of ujjayi breath & feel v accomplished

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 8 August 2016 02:31 (seven years ago) link

I'm really not getting the hang of ujjayi breath. I've even taken a super beginners course and it still seems odd to me.

michaellambert, Monday, 8 August 2016 18:22 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

I've been doing a Fundamentals of Ashtanga class for the last several months. The class covers only the first half of the series and encourages modifications whenever needed. It still kicks my ass, but the repetition has allowed me to find lots of ways to modify various parts either because I can't do them the right way or because I need to avoid things that mess up my neck. I'd love to talk modifications if anyone would find that helpful.

This video is pretty representative of what my class covers, although I flop around and sweat and sniffle a lot more than the lady in the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Krp4W0TlAU

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Sunday, 25 September 2016 04:16 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, after trying to go along with what I take to be a fairly authoritative video, I figured that if Sri Pattabhi Jois's breaths were too short for me, I'd be better off on my own.

My solo practice is a little intermittent, but I'm starting to develop my series with variations (I don't like doing the weird split leg, roll-around ones -- I do like adding a pigeon pose).

What kind of variations do you like, Moodles?

rm -rf / (Leee), Sunday, 25 September 2016 21:54 (seven years ago) link

that video was O_O
pretty sure i will never be that limber
my hatha class is ridic chill & def more my speed. but when i see other yoga practice i feel like a toddler lol

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 25 September 2016 22:07 (seven years ago) link

Yoga is not a competitive sport - that's why I like it!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Sunday, 25 September 2016 22:51 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, these videos definitely show an idealized version that I know I will never get close to, but they are at least helpful in laying out what to aim for.

One thing that I do in a bunch of positions that involve a bind is using a strap to make up the difference.
For shoulder stands, I've been using a block to prop up my back, which helps take pressure off my neck. Also sometimes just do legs up the wall.
I can't do headstands at all, so I do a version of plank with forearms on the ground.
For hopping forward and backward, out of down dog or into plank, I've been trying to get less forceful and lighten a bit, instead of landing like a bag of bricks, which was jarring on my neck.

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Sunday, 25 September 2016 23:12 (seven years ago) link

I can't do most of the what that video shows, either! I don't have the flow committed to memory yet (and I've been doing this for years) so needed it for reference.

I can't do headstands at all, so I do a version of plank with forearms on the ground.

Do you mean dolphin pose?

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/68/75/fe/6875fef132455b568dc227f0206fb28a.jpg

BTW, for jump-throughs, have you tried putting blocks under your hands? That way you have more room for your legs, which I bet would help with your control. And from recent personal experience, I realized how much work my lower core needs to be able to retract my legs enough to do a smooth jump-through.

rm -rf / (Leee), Monday, 26 September 2016 00:26 (seven years ago) link

more like a plank version of that without my butt up in the air, but dolphin pose would work too

I haven't tried blocks, but I could see how that would make it easier. I think I have short arms or something.

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Monday, 26 September 2016 01:41 (seven years ago) link

everyone thinks they have short arms... or long legs... and we all have our quirks but it's amazing how consistent practice (and, as leee says, a lot of core work) can lengthen up those arms or shorten those legs or whatever.

Maty Ezraty says it took her eight years to get solid on the jumpthrough. Until then, blocks definitely help.

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Monday, 26 September 2016 17:05 (seven years ago) link

turtles actually have short legs iirc

dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Monday, 26 September 2016 17:13 (seven years ago) link

lol true

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 26 September 2016 17:38 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

One yoga teacher (she is just starting) said I had really long arms. Took a few classes, she was ok but as I've moved now I don't go there anymore.

Last 3 months I've been going to classes by a couple of excellent teachers at this place 5 mins from where I live, one of whom is a Senior Iyengar yoga teacher. The Capital S is earned, she is very good and strict at what she does (with a funny edge which means when she tells you off its ok), and I'm always learning. She started in her 40s "at a low ebb" and it offers hope to all of us tbh. The intermediate class is a bit of a jump for me but I feel like I am improving, and with my bits of home practice it means no bastard can grind me down no more.

The other teacher is very good too. Above all, well, she is just my type. Its just wrong really.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 21 November 2016 18:03 (seven years ago) link

Iyengar is not my personal jam but any Senior Iyengar teacher is legit af.
Very serious training and not a designation you can earn just by showing up for x number of hours.

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Monday, 21 November 2016 18:42 (seven years ago) link

Indeed. None of this 200 hrs crap*. Iyengar teachers need to have practiced yoga for a few years then have a recommendation from an already qualified teacher to be accepted into training (or so I believe). Then its tough exams. And if you pass (and many fail) there are a few levels to get to Senior. Its quite an accmplishment for this woman. This partic teacher just pushes me to practice more (I always want to be doing yoga but fkn life man). I broke my big toe two months ago and recovered enough to go to a class after 3 weeks but not hers, just need to go back to a basic level just to keep it up.

Anyway, at my level you can definitely see the difference between a teacher that has only done it for a bit vs a Senior.

* ok not saying they are all like that - and 200 hrs is a lot of yoga.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 21 November 2016 19:06 (seven years ago) link

iyengar teachers are the real deal

marcos, Monday, 21 November 2016 19:09 (seven years ago) link

I am forever grateful that my first yoga study was with very legit Iyengar including John Schumacher. Having Iyengar as a foundation makes dipping into other styles safer and more meaningful imo.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Monday, 21 November 2016 21:44 (seven years ago) link

^^ very much agreed. there are a lot of folks who have only practiced "vinyasa flow" who kinda have no idea

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Monday, 21 November 2016 22:32 (seven years ago) link

and i love vinyasa flow!

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Monday, 21 November 2016 22:32 (seven years ago) link

so so true. I've done a few classes of flow yoga about 6 months ago and imo what Iyengar teaches you is precision in the asanas. Really important not to fall into bad habits that are injury forming.

The one other teacher at my current studio is a former Iyengar teacher (who is also in the buddhist order) who does two types of classes: one of which is more flow based and another which is yoga+meditation (went to a couple of them as I was on my way back from broken toe) and while that didn't work for me I felt that were I ever to move from Iyengar to other practices I'd have a good foundation. But I am only interested in shadow yoga and the guy who came up with it was one of Iyengar's former pupils. No classes nearby tho'.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 21 November 2016 23:19 (seven years ago) link

ten months pass...

No longer interested in shadow yoga. Only Iyengar and Yin yoga (a very gentle practice, no inversions which is a shame, but you hold poses for minutes at a time - so deceptively light, however I've only been for a class or two)

This is a great piece on Iyengar teaching - and the critical teaching I get from the teacher I've been with for a year now (the one I mention above)

https://yogaspy.com/2017/09/25/a-critical-teacher/

Also started a practice course with the same teacher (one session a month for 5 months). So she has given a 15 min practice to do everyday (I was practicing for about 30 mins to an hour 2/3 times a week but scaled all that back for now) and we're looking at practicing paranayama safely in the next session.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 7 October 2017 12:06 (six years ago) link

nothing gentle about yin lol. those long holds can be fkn brutal.

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Saturday, 7 October 2017 16:54 (six years ago) link

Yes indeed, didn't mean to downplay it...

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 7 October 2017 20:08 (six years ago) link

I've had to ramp down my practice recently due to repeated injuries. Need to find a way to keep up without killing myself, but it's been tough finding the right balance.

Moodles, Saturday, 7 October 2017 20:13 (six years ago) link

Negotiating so I can practice intensely but with the heightened awareness to avoid injury.

Good to ramp it down, look at the asanas that are causing injury and maybe adapt so you can keep practising and looking at it.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 9 October 2017 11:27 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Been practicing most days for about an hour this month, and started doing some pranayama too.

In my experience if there is an injury then - funnily enough - doing yoga is what aids the recovery. I did my back a little bit when I tried this tough twist but then I did a lighter practice the next day and that cleared it off.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 26 October 2017 20:52 (six years ago) link

yeah, i'm finding that as long as i finish an hour of running with an hour of yoga my legs are fine and if i skip even just twice, i end up with an injury.

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Thursday, 26 October 2017 21:11 (six years ago) link

i skipped it today but i have been going to a workplace free yoga class taught by my coworker and it is so wonderful. not only does it feel good, but stretch-bonding with my coworkers is a nice side effect.
otherwise i normally do yoga in my basement by myself. going to the class 1x a week is really nice because i don't have to make any decisions and someone else (the teacher) is in the driver's seat. not being in the driver's seat periodically is essential for people who work in emotionally draining professions imo.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 26 October 2017 21:15 (six years ago) link

Plus a teacher shows you other ways to do things and streches (no pun intended) any notions of what might be possible.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 26 October 2017 21:26 (six years ago) link

three weeks pass...

ok shit I have a groin strain on my right leg aargh - got it by doing warrior pose against the wall.

I am still practicing every day - but not that.

Has anyone here had this? How long does it take to heal up?

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 19 November 2017 11:49 (six years ago) link

I had a minor car crash about 1 1/2 weeks ago and I crunched my wrist, not sure that it is a full on fracture, mire like a bine bruise, but it looks like I'm done with yoga until next year. 😣

Moodles, Sunday, 19 November 2017 16:30 (six years ago) link

damn sorry to hear that - my body really missed yoga for about 2/3 weeks when I broke my toe last year.

(someone I know is a piano player and has had issues practicing yoga with her wrist issues but now has qualified recently to teach yoga..)

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 19 November 2017 20:12 (six years ago) link

I've had a series of injuries over the past year, mostly shoulders and neck, that have slowed me down, but this is the first one where I feel like I just need need to stop for a while.

Moodles, Sunday, 19 November 2017 20:30 (six years ago) link

that's crazy, i ALSO got a groin strain on my right leg this past thursday when i was climbing. It really pulls you out of running/yoga/climbing for sure.

Depending on the severity, my understanding is between a week and a half to several months will heal it. I was bouldering ten feet up on a wall when i heard a pop in my upper thigh... not a good feeling.

I believe you want to avoid static stretching while the adductors heal... they're tiny little muscles but they can bounce back if you don't fuck with them too hard. The pain from it is waking me up in the mornings but it's starting to fade a bit... unfortunately it also feels like it's pulling against my right testicle all the time, which is a very funky and unpleasant sensation.

sorry about your wrist moodles, that sucks. maybe talk to your yoga teacher and ask if they have recommendations for work you can do at home to make sure the scar tissue doesn't cause problems later?

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Sunday, 19 November 2017 21:00 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

Actually a day or two after I posted that back in November the strain cleared enough so I could walk at my usual pace and then I kept practicing. It is now pretty much gone. I didn't feel any strain whatsoever in class this morning.

Course finished last month - we went through a variety of approaches so I am using that plus getting whatever bits and pieces I learn in class. I make notes (though not as much as I should) from class and try and incorporate with the practice the week after too.

In May it will be nearly four years since I've started - and given what has been going on personally I have to say it just makes things a bit better. Any bit of daily practice gives me 'space' and strengthens my nervous system for the challenges ahead. I will need it.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 3 February 2018 13:02 (six years ago) link


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