Noah Baumbach and Greta Gerwig's "Frances Ha"

http://www.villagevoice.com/2013-05-08/film/greta-gerwig-isn-t-your-average-it-girl/

uh, did we know that Baumbach divorced Jennifer Jason Leigh soon after Greenberg, and that he and Gerwig are now a couple? Bet he gets less shit about it than Thurston Moore.

Anyway, cautiously optimistic on the new one, GG deserves to be the first mumblecore-hatched star.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9YKHRQkf7k

I didn't how to feel about'em after reading The New Yorker profile.

http://youtu.be/g87Zn-VT7K4

this looks really up my alley tbh

I didn't how to feel about'em after reading The New Yorker profile.

― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, May 9, 2013 10:16 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah, baumbach came off like a v. inscrutable guy.

I like that GG feels compelled to point out that this film was hatched before Girls hit HBO. Cuz the culture can only accept one type of young woman in Brooklyn.

didn't mind his hair though

I loved Greenberg. Psyched about this.

this looks really up my alley tbh

― turds (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, May 9, 2013 10:18 AM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol

looks like a "feel-good" remake of hannah takes the stairs

lemme just google that bad boy... haha whoa, thats not a good thing at all!!

I like that GG feels compelled to point out that this film was hatched before Girls hit HBO. Cuz the culture can only accept one type of young woman in Brooklyn.

― ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Thursday, May 9, 2013 10:20 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

or maybe because the precious bonsai children of new york are already overrepresented in popular culture

ty

and also this movie sounds a lot like one of the subplots of Girls and the main character bears certain similarities to hannah horvath and the movie features adam driver

fun fact: "The Drama of the Gifted Child" was originally to be titled "The Drama of the Narcissistic Child" but the author realized it wouldn't sell that way.

well yeah there's that too, but not having ever seen Girls i can't swear to any similarities aside from one actor.

the precious bonsai children of new york

this pleases me

I think you mean 'escapees from flyover country'

greenberg was so good, so perfect, so greenberg

I like Baumbach's stuff but leaving yr wife for a younger woman just after she gave birth to your baby is nagl

interesting artist is an asshole film at 11

maybe baumbach's a bit of a greenberg, the movie makes even more sense to me now

greenberg was kind of ok but damn it had such a myopic view of la

good.

hungry4whites

What L.A. movie besides The Long Goodbye doesn't?

repo man

Noah Baumbach Greta Gerwig Ben Stiller - Repo Man

My brother and I quote Greenberg the way high schoolers used to quote Anchorman. Favs include "I'm thinking of getting back into drugs" and "I'm just trying to do nothing for a while." This movie is a cult classic by now, no? I liked the interview with Greta Gerwig fwiw. Also I cant really blame anyone for falling for New Chloe Sevigny... that seems like a personal matter.

I like Baumbach's stuff but leaving yr wife for a younger woman just after she gave birth to your baby is nagl

This is probably my most-anticipated film of 2013.

The Squid and the Whale was way better than Greenberg, which was itself really good, so I'm looking forward to this, Baumbach douchiness notwithstanding.

i think the baumbach divorce thing looks bad from the outside, but we don't know what was actually going on in their marriage so i am going to withhold judgement.

I'm waiting for the kid to grow up and make a movie about it. Due in 2040 or so?

lol @ this, fuck baumbach

"Soon after shooting wrapped[on Greenberg], the director emailed Gerwig, asking her what she thought was going on in the hearts and minds of people her age"

lololol

More like in the pants amirite.

The trailer is the worst kind of nineties dr(lol)oll indie romcom.

i wish that line worked if you weren't old, and a fancy movie director

it does look super 90s. im cool with that

Yeah I'm looking foward seeing this. Love GeeGee.

way better than the G.G. we had in the 90s

Ha. Were you around back then, Treeship?

lol no. i'm 24. i know of g.g. allin from the todd philips documentary.

Well, at least thanks to this thread I now know who actually watches movies like this for pleasure—I saw the trailer and it made me want to track down everyone involved and set them on fire one at a time.

it shows girls dancing to express their love of life

誤訳侮辱, you should try Girls.

誤訳侮辱, what are your thoughts on Woody Allen?

alf didnt u love damsels in distress

誤訳侮辱, you should try Girls.

Does it have car chases, gunfire, explosions, and people getting punched in the face? Because those are the common factors of the TV shows I watch.

誤訳侮辱, what are your thoughts on Woody Allen?

I've only seen three of his movies (Annie Hall, Sleeper and Love and Death) and I hated all three. They had a disturbing lack of car chases, gunfire, explosions etc.

I do like Whit Stillman's movies, though...

I have this half-baked theory about Baumbach films that the divorce-damaged kids in Squid and the Whale are sympathetic because they're kids, but that Baumbach's other characters tend to be like kids from the same experience and milieu who are older but never really grew up, and they stop being as sympathetic.

Margot was how I discovered Karen Dalton's "Something on Your Mind,

Let Me Make You A Cool Mixtape direction

Well...throw in Kenneth Anger and the guy who made Mean Streets and Who's That Knocking at My Door, too.

I think he's an indie "it" guy but this movie is the only place i can think of where he was dreamy. On Girls his character can be pretty dark at times, and is always a little "off" and not in a cute way.

― Treeship, Tuesday, May 28, 2013 8:38 AM (6 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

way late on this, but false^

also GG looks like nellie mckay

gg got a gg nom

I'm sort of agnostic about Baumbach - his movies get really close to something I like/appreciate/get something out of, and I can't tell if that's ironically what makes them good or what makes them, you know, fall short - but his pile of glass gag in "Kicking and Screaming" is one of my all time favorite jokes.

Wasn't a dedicated Gerwig thread, so.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/greta-gerwig-star-cbs-how-679633

ok i am gonna call that 'how i met greta gerwig' from now on, i don't care if that doesn't make sense

this movie sucked 1 butt

Pretty, but aggravating. Something like the cinematic equivalent of what its prettiest (yet sill aggravating) character might call "undateable."

fantastic movie! i'm amazed this thread hasn't been revived for a year.

anyway check this if you liked the film, and avoid it like the plague if you didn't. Gerwig goes through *all 42* takes of the 28 seconds-long 'scene in the bathroom' (which she co-wrote) making notes on each one. in the end Baumbach went back and used 'Take 29' anyway, having made his actors go through a full hour of unnecessary re-takes. i don't think i've read a piece like it before, ever.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/12/magazine/one-scene-42-takes-and-2-hours-in-a-bathroom-stall.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

trailer for the new one seems really whit stillman (like, more so than usual) - quite excited

he doesn't sit about that lad.

we can start a nu thread

http://www.youtube.com/watch?t=14&v=TL-B8SdE6D0

god, this is stilted - I don't expect better of Gerwig, but Baumbach feels like he's regressing the more contact he has with mumblecore people

frances ha > while we're young > mistress america is a v good run of movies imo fyi

baumbach is the closest thing to rohmer that currently exists and roughly no one presently cares but whatever i guess

deserves its own thread

Clearly Hong Sang Soo is the modern Rohmer. And I care a lot about that being acknowledged!

NB not really anywhere close to ER

and yeah you ppl have to get less fucking lazy about starting threads

what about greenberg

noah baumbach is the closest thing to 2004 - 2007 woody allen that currently exists, kinda like late woody allen only with less visual finesse. frederik one trillion percent otm.

noah baumbach is the closest thing to 2004 - 2007 woody allen that currently exists,

no need to be insulting

I liked this movie. Baumbach and Gerwig push whimsy so far out that it's in danger of just drifting away yet it never does. Some of the best dialogue I've heard in an American movie too.

frances Ha or MIstress America?

just saw the latter - some really LOL moments at the ex's house in that one.

MA. The ex's house scenes are choreographed like a ballet (Dean Wareham is the only sour note).

yeah otm. baumbachs timing / dialogue / editing have been so strong in these last few

even like throw away lines just ring perfectly to me like when they first arrive at the connecticut house and the guy is like "holy shit those pregnant women are super smart"

YOU PPL BETTER NOT BE TALKIN BOUT MISTRESS AMERICA

whadya mean "YOU PPL"

i loved when the leftover pregnant lady finally acknowledged that they kept offering her alcohol to drink

Noah Baumbach and Greta Gerwig's "Mistress America"

Not sure if I hated Damsels in Distress or just wasn't in the mood for it. I like the film before it and like some of the film after it, so I don't think Noel Baumbach's gone off the Wes Anderson deep end. Megalyn Echikunwoke was incredibly beautiful. Thought for sure I spotted Lauren Ambrose from Six Feet Under in a classroom scene, but she's not listed in the credits, so I guess not. Still haven't seen Mistress America.

? damsels in distress is a whit stillman movie

Um, oops...the whole time I'm thinking, "This is the same guy that made The Squid & the Whale." And I almost made mention of the Metropolitan allusions.

I don't think it changes my reaction to the film, although it does help explain a lot.

#NotAllGerwigsAreBaumbachs

Although to be fair this thread at times served as a "Rolling Greta Gerwig" one.

Interesting experiment, though...That's the first time I've ever sat through an entire film thinking it was someone other than the actual director. And of course it would have altered my reaction if I'd remembered it was Stillman. I don't know that I would have liked it any more, but I certainly would have had an easier time getting my head around it.

dunno why I've never met a Benji

I just watched this for the first time. I hated it. Maybe it's already aged poorly? I am now hate reading glowing reviews of this when it came out.

what does aging poorly mean?

My issues with the movie seem to have already been mentioned in this thread (I just read through it). GG is charming but the character is unsubstantial and basically a really pleasant idiot at 27. I feel like I used to enjoy movies like this more. I liked the first couple of seasons of Girls, I still like Kicking and Screaming. Now it just all invokes Kendall Jenner giving the police a pepsi in the middle of a protest. I did enjoy the Paris scenes (this should've just been a longform commercial for Miu Miu or something) and Dean and Britta. I am also remembering a conversation I had with a well known music critic a long time ago when the show Felicity was still on air. I thought the show would've totally been his jam but he hated it because he had to see boring, overprivileged white NYU students every day so why would he want to also suffer through watching it on tv.

I am now talking about this movie with A friend who is a huge Greta Gerwig fan. "So, I know how much you hate Fleabag, I was watching Frances Ha and I finally understood why you hate Fleabag so much." Her "You know I hated Frances Ha, right? With the heat of a thousand white hot suns!"

saw this for the first time last night and found it very affecting. was really mesmerized by gerwig and her awkward sincerity, the way she speaks to strangers as if they’ve been friends for years, her love for dancing even though she’s awful at it, that aimless trip to paris, how deeply she longs to be loved while simultaneously lacking any real interest in romance

I like it more with each re-viewing. I always forget Dean Wareham's in it.

watched this again last night. what a perfect little movie — the goodness of frances is almost too much to bear

I'm still crushing on her roommate.

Loved this movie

On Netflix again! Still love it.

annual rewatch tonight. I just adore everyone in this movie so much