The Wolf of Wall Street (new Scorsese)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iszwuX1AK6A

IDK, feels like he's trekking some pretty well-worn trails there.

r.i.p. the rolling stones

ugh stop it with the sweaty bigface Marty

think that's just the reflection in your monitor dude

mite b fun

any trailer starting with a blunt & accented Leo self-identification is obviously ominous but i am happy to stay medium-intensity-excited for this

gotta agree w/shakes... really wish he found another actor for this

i like that the first licensed use of 'black skinhead' is for this trailer

this looks like it could be a good time but it also looks like they're only mining half a dozen scenes to put this trailer together. dicap looks like he's having a good time in this though, every other scors pic he's done he's been a bit too grim the whole time. this looks more like his 'catch me if you can' performance.

good time good time

so sick of baby ass face cuz otherwise yeah this looks fun. oh well.

gotta agree w/shakes... really wish he everyone found another actor for this everything

― i wanna be a gabbneb baby (Hungry4Ass), Monday, June 17, 2013 12:07 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

He comes off more like a kid in a school play than a wall street shark there.

i feel like i just saw leo play a guy who loves money in the great gatsby

with a period haircut too

some critic pointed out that as Gatsby he looks like Orson Welles

he kind looks a little welles-y in general

Somehow wall street movies rarely capture the fact that these guys are not as awesome irl as they are in their minds.

which prompts the question, when do we get the bloat?

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ha

They're always action heroes slinging money instead of guns, even in the "critical" movies.

"Bloat on a Boat" wouldn't have been the worst title for this film

It actually took me two viewings to realize this was a period piece. Could just as easily have been set in 2013 - these greedhead scumbags are the same no matter the year.

some critic pointed out that as Gatsby he looks like Orson Welles

― ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Monday, June 17, 2013 3:37 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hah i can kinda see a connection w/ citizen kane

"Bloat on a Boat" would be apt:

Belfort was the final owner of luxury yacht the Nadine (renamed after his second wife, a British-born model) originally built for Coco Chanel. In June 1997, it sank off the east coast of Sardinia. The Italian Special Forces were called to rescue all aboard the vessel. Belfort has said he insisted on sailing out in high winds against the advice of his captain, resulting in the vessel's sinking when waves smashed the foredeck hatch.

wait this is a period piece? what period?

is last year a period?

90s

makes me think of wall street 2... mcconaughey even makes the same whistling noise as eli wallach

late '80s i think?

that eli wallach whistle was one of the strangest things i've seen in a movie

i was just thinking that it seemed weird to show wall street excess in a corporate office environment w/ particle board ceilings

particle board was all the rage, you're too young to remember

yeah this looks good. agree w/hurting that it'd be nice if they'd just replace all actors with new people I'm not sick of seeing but that's not really on the actors and I'll forget about it about ten minutes into the movie

ok '90s is right

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Belfort

they didn't bother with a period skyline I guess

or locations

that eli wallach whistle was one of the strangest things i've seen in a movie

― christmas candy bar (al leong), Monday, June 17, 2013 3:47 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

haha yeah. and then the little flying bird hand gesture!

yeah this looks good. agree w/hurting that it'd be nice if they'd just replace all actors with new people I'm not sick of seeing but that's not really on the actors and I'll forget about it about ten minutes into the movie

― Oral Sex in Sharp’s Ridge Park (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, June 17, 2013 3:48 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh actually I just meant I wish they'd replace dicaprio with someone else in every movie he's ever done. I never ever like him.

although I can't say I was psyched to see Jonah Hill in this either

that eli wallach whistle was one of the strangest things i've seen in a movie

― christmas candy bar (al leong), Monday, June 17, 2013 3:47 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

haha yeah. and then the little flying bird hand gesture!

― i wanna be a gabbneb baby (Hungry4Ass), Monday, June 17, 2013 12:52 PM (42 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha i still dgi, but i like that he still has enough clout to improv like that

i still think dicap looks pretty good in this one.

thing w/scorsese and leo is that i'm not sure scorsese wanted to find his new deniro as much as he wanted to find his new liotta.

yeah. and i love that he's still out there acting, just like... who's gonna tell eli wallach he cant make birds with his hands, hes freakin 97

"you know what Fugazi is?

yeah it's one of my favorite bands."

Feels out of date, now that quants with Aspergers put these swinging dicks out of business.

just watched trailer again and im more sold on it. leo's probably gonna be fine, it's in his wheelhouse

except he doesnt play 26 y/o as credibly as he used to

This will probably be bad, with the one caveat that lots of trailers make a movie look far worse than it actually is. (Going by the trailer posted on the Scorsese thread). So maybe that's the case here.

im down with leo

I liked the first half of this movie- basically up to the car wreck- DiCaprio sold the role. On the other hand, Jonah Hill is nowhere near the actor he seems to think he is.

If you want to get to a really meta-level, scroll down and read about the guys who financed this movie.

Mr. Aziz’s film company, Red Granite Pictures, was largely unheard-of when it took over the financing of “The Wolf of Wall Street,” announcing its intentions with a party at the 2011 Cannes Film Festival, complete with a fireworks extravaganza and concert by Kanye West. The Hollywood Reporter called it “an audacious hello to the movie industry.”

In the same way that Goodfellas feels like a string of mobster stories that are so close to being incredulous that you know they're true, this one feels like back-to-back stories of "You'll never believe it, this broad was standing there and..." or "...and I was so fucked up that I couldn't walk but somehow...."

and furthermore...

“Global investigators now believe much of the money to make [Martin Scorsese’s The Wolf of Wall Street] about a stock scam was diverted from a state fund 9,000 miles away in Malaysia, a fund that had been established to spur local economic development,” report Bradley Hope, John R. Emshwiller and Ben Fritz for the Wall Street Journal.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/malaysias-1mdb-the-secret-money-behind-the-wolf-of-wall-street-1459531987

All this stuff is reinforcing my feeling that the whole thing was just one big disgusting commercial for working on wall street.

Talk to some of the film's (younger, mostly) fans--it seems to have worked.

reminds me of a surprising convo i had years ago: people were talking about requiem for a dream (i think?) and a guy i didn't know came out as a recovering drug addict by saying "there's no such thing as an antidrug film. if you show someone doing drugs, it doesn't matter how shitty it is, it looks amazing to an addict"

similar to what Jarhead Swofford said about 'antiwar' films.

was thinking about this movie recently and its valorous (imo) lack of moralizing. i think one key narrative connection is with something like elmer gantry.

You might also enjoy a film genre known as hardcore porn -- similarly valorous lack of moralizing.

Lol Jesus. Cmon y'all. Condescending moralizing is the worst

Maybe it should have had a parental advisory

People still sweating Wall Street when every Yale grad is moving to Silicon Valley

All them gangster movies sent my little paulie to the shtreetss, sheee, and now you aintnevergonnatakehimalive, shee?

Harden up lads ffs.

started re-watching this last night and it really is incredibly funny. the first hour or so really matches the velocity and breakneck pace of Goodfellas and every scene has something funny going on it, constantly one-upping itself w the parade of buffoonish assholishness

otm

It's a masterpiece of assholery

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B8U6KQ_CAAAqUtM.jpg

yep the first hour is great then it goes in for 4 more hours

The wedding dance scene alone is worth the price of admission

I still think the quaalude fight is perfect physical comedy.

A lot of great moments that are unfortunately in a terrible movie.

What's the ratio?

I still think the quaalude fight is perfect physical comedy.

Many ppl who have never seen a Jerry Lewis film say this of this Lewis hommage

Was Jerry Lewis into crip jokes too?

Many ppl who have never seen a Jerry Lewis film say this of this Lewis hommage

There is plenty of room for both, Morbs. Jackie Chan does not negate Buster Keaton or Harold Lloyd, thank goodness.

this really is way too long and all the Goodfellas parallels are v obvious (luude freakout leading up to bust = coke + helicopter freakout). Goodfellas is taut and *short* though, makes me wonder if all the bloat in this was not in some ways v intentional, since the whole thing is about bloated excess.

That's sort of how I watch it. I mean, Wolf is 30 minutes longer than Fellas, which isn't radical. Tastes vary, obviously, but I can't think of 30 minutes I'd necessarily want cut from this, any more than I can think of 30 minutes Fellas should be longer. Different stories. Fellas is clearly superior, but I'm not sure I can understand why someone would like that one and outright hate this one, even if it is just more of the same but less.

started re-watching this last night

otm tbh

"the sides cured cancer, that's why they were so expensive"

WoWS and Silence back-to-back is a pretty impressive directorial achievement, not sure of another director who would be capable of making two films of imo near-equal quality (i lean more towards Silence, maybe) that completely different in almost every respect.

A pretty clean guilt-transcendence pivot.

Silence is def the better film

but yeah it is a p interesting 1-2 punch

havent seen silence just want to say this movie rules

wouldn't cut a second of it

Its ~drunk on power, full bore live for today~ nihilism is genuinely electric and frightening. Walked out of it in a daze. I think it's a great film and a fitting end to the Goodfellas, Casino unintentional trilogy.

I think when Leo casually watched the plane crash and thought about what it meant to him personally was when I knew it was special.

haha that plane crash was like the Departed's "the rat symbolizes obviousness" redux

https://media.giphy.com/media/5VIjIJ9YO5lyU/giphy.gif

The Wolf of Wall Street (1929) started out as a silent movie, but was reworked to include sound. It was released in February, eight months before the Wall Street Crash of 1929. The plot involves a trader who corners the market in copper pic.twitter.com/43nmY0oa5E

— Silent Movie GIFs (@silentmoviegifs) April 5, 2019

The Wolf of Wall Street (1929) is today believed to be a lost film. The only part of the movie known to still exist is this brief montage sequence created by Slavko Vorkapić pic.twitter.com/W5pzqDvDWX

— Silent Movie GIFs (@silentmoviegifs) April 5, 2019

I like the zeppelin.

Very Terry Gilliam.

The fact that WOLF OF WALL STREET’s financing continues to lead to active prosecution is pretty perfect pic.twitter.com/zUMzN4lmfM

— Vadim Rizov (@vrizov) July 7, 2019

Goodfellas is taut and *short* though, makes me wonder if all the bloat in this was not in some ways v intentional, since the whole thing is about bloated excess.

there were some fairly comical things in the second half but tonally they didn't make me laugh much, which i think was an intentional function of the length and bloat - like they had to be made pathetic/ridiculous enough that you could see them as comical without finding them funny, because the funniness of the first half was part of the enticement of the audience but it needs a moral corrective that follows the plot.

surprising amount of slow motion in this - it's been a while since i've seen his older movies so i forget but he is fond of it, right? which seems caught up with the tone. all the scenes of office debauchery sliding into slow-mo or seeming sped-up like hints of benny hill, seemed like it voided all those scenes of their potential titillation.

I probably said this up thread but I think Scorsese’s moral seriousness is the reason he doesn’t shortchange the allure of “bad” behavior. Like they say about war movies, you kinda can’t help but make this stuff look fun/exciting...but he sees that the only way out is through, which is why on rewatching a 2nd or 3rd time the desperation and sadness that seems to drive everything/everyone seems downright obvious. I’d be willing to bet that on some level Scorsese sees making films itself as morally dubious...at least movies like this (though Silence has similar overtones)...and so they operate as confessions, and they keep that charge of titillation that all good confession surely has.

lord make me chaste, but not yet

this is a great thread, one day i will maybe watch this movie and discover who is right and who is wrong

it really says something about the audience that wants characters wrapped in immoral excess

every broke american is a temporarily disenfranchised millionaire, who would totally be the good millionaire if they actually made it. and if they weren't, then we should grant them some leeway, because they meant to be the good millionaire.

the audience is embodied in the movie by the two security guards who watch margot robbie's character taunt her husband sexually through the nanny cam

incredible movie

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