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Also: Orphan Black - twisty-turny thing about a woman who discovers she's one of many clones. I'm now three episodes in, and it's okay, will prob stick with it.

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― DavidM, Saturday, May 4, 2013 1:03 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm only one episode in. Catching up when time permits. I like it so far, and it's good to know that it's already been given a second season.

― Johnny Fever, Saturday, May 4, 2013 6:28 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm all caught up with Orphan Black now. HOLY SHIT.

― Johnny Fever, Monday, May 6, 2013 7:08 AM (1 month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ORPHAN BLACK. dodgy accents and all. SO GOOD.

― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, June 18, 2013 12:24 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"vick's a dick"

― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, June 18, 2013 12:24 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I spent most of Saturday watching Orphan Black. It's the best thing I've seen in ages.

― treefell, Tuesday, June 18, 2013 12:43 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I know the first thing people usually talk about when they talk about Orphan Black is the greatness of Tatiana Maslany, but it amazes me the way she makes each character she plays on the show totally a separate person that might as well be another actor altogether. And then the time she played Alison pretending to be Sarah? And NAILED IT? Fuck, I don't even know how you do that.

Love that show. Love it!

― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, June 18, 2013 3:22 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

she is fucking unreal

still haven't seen the final two episodes of the season

― they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Tuesday, June 18, 2013 3:24 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It's also incredibly novel to see Canadians playing Brits.

― Simon H., Tuesday, June 18, 2013 3:39 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

okay okay fiiiiiiiine I'll check it out jeez

― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, June 18, 2013 5:39 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Do or don't.

But seriously, do.

― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, June 18, 2013 5:42 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

eh someday, someday. i'm surprised because the commercials made it look kind of doofy

― Nhex, Tuesday, June 18, 2013 5:48 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah I was kinda giving it the side-eye, i'll admit

― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, June 18, 2013 5:54 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It IS kind of doofy! But also completely awesome! I'm totally biased though. Uncanny shit like this is just sooo in my wheelhouse

― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, June 18, 2013 5:57 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yet you willingly watched Defiance.

d'okay

xp

― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, June 18, 2013 5:58 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Only one ep left of Orphan Black for me to watch :(

The only thing that lets this show down sometimes is the casting. The guy who plays Beth's police partner is a one-note cliche. Every time he's on screen it feels like a video-game cut scene. The guy who plays Paul is terrible, straight from the JAG school of simmering glances and husky whisperings. SPEAK UP, SON. SPEAK THE FUCK UP.

Everybody else is pretty great though. MAX HEADROOM! Good god the man can act!

the time she played Alison pretending to be Sarah? And NAILED IT?
So good.

I love the moment when you realize that 1) the murder victim 2) the murderer and 3) the detective investigating the case.... are all clones of each other.

― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, June 21, 2013 3:08 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I actually like Art, but yes, Paul is very boring. Jordan Gavaris is great as Felix, though.

― Simon H., Friday, June 21, 2013 3:27 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I really REALLY like Angela, Art's new partner

― DJP, Friday, June 21, 2013 3:28 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Do we not have a dedicated OB thread yet? We should.

― Simon H., Friday, June 21, 2013 3:36 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 21 June 2013 17:59 (ten years ago) link

Malsany is just ridiculously good in this

DJP, Friday, 21 June 2013 18:03 (ten years ago) link

i've only seen 4 or so episodes so far but this show is dope.

precious bonsai children of new york (Jordan), Friday, 21 June 2013 18:17 (ten years ago) link

I kind of want to watch the whole of S1 over again, but it's only been three weeks since it ended. Too soon?

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 22 June 2013 00:49 (ten years ago) link

i watched it really casually, to the point that my wife who watched less than half the episodes with me understood what was going on more than me. but i liked it.

some dude, Saturday, 22 June 2013 00:52 (ten years ago) link

How can three clones all live in the same town and never have run into each other before this? (Alison, Sarah, Beth). We see Vic run into Alison in a parking lot. How has this never happened before??

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 22 June 2013 09:04 (ten years ago) link

Also did we ever get an explanation of why Sarah vamoosed for 10 months? I always sort of assumed it was cause she owed drug money but is it ever spelled out?

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 22 June 2013 09:04 (ten years ago) link

I really REALLY like Angela, Art's new partner

Cosine

Although Felix is the moral center of the show imo

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 22 June 2013 09:05 (ten years ago) link

How can three clones all live in the same town and never have run into each other before this? (Alison, Sarah, Beth).

Most people agree that you wouldn't recognize yourself if you saw yourself (or a clone of you) walking down the street.

We see Vic run into Alison in a parking lot. How has this never happened before??

This is totally a valid question. Even thought all three seem to have traveled in very different circles, someone somewhere before now would've seen one of them and recognized another.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 22 June 2013 18:00 (ten years ago) link

We never found out what the deal was with Maggie Chen, did we?

I'm thinking Maggie had some sort of meds that could help the sick clones live, possibly even reverse the sickness. And some turn of events saw Beth shoot her, possibly mistakenly. And that's why she ran in front of the train, because she felt she had let her sisters down.

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 23 June 2013 19:01 (ten years ago) link

We also never found out why Sarah just vamoosed for 10 months, did we?

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 23 June 2013 19:06 (ten years ago) link

Another thought - This is possibly the most casually gay TV drama I've ever seen. Felix is as gay as the day is long and is also some kind of part-time rent boy? Isn't there a scene with a naked dude on his bed giving him money? Cross-dressing primary school kids. Women kissing women. The general queer vibe of body-modding. Good shit!

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 24 June 2013 10:31 (ten years ago) link

lol

putting off the finale until both my wife and I can watch it... I am so so so so excited for it too (btw don't worry about spoilers for me, I have been reading AV Club reviews before watching the episodes and none of them have ruined the experience for me)

Can we talk about how Maslany won a Critic's Choice award for this? Maybe an Emmy isn't entirely far-fetched...

DJP, Thursday, 27 June 2013 14:00 (ten years ago) link

it was adorable how TOTALLY overwhelmed and flustered she was

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 27 June 2013 14:10 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWqDe1vhu08&feature=player_embedded

DJP, Thursday, 27 June 2013 14:18 (ten years ago) link

I need to watch this, don't I?

mh, Thursday, 27 June 2013 18:02 (ten years ago) link

You do.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 27 June 2013 18:04 (ten years ago) link

watched ep 6 the other night, omg the golf club moment. that felt like some breaking bad-level unexpected shit.

also for anyone who's played Far Cry 3, it's crazy to see how much Vaas in the game looks like his voice actor, i.e. the dude who plays Vic in OB.

precious bonsai children of new york (Jordan), Thursday, 27 June 2013 18:16 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL5GTxuuckk

DJP, Thursday, 27 June 2013 18:17 (ten years ago) link

the guy who plays Vic is AMAZING.

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 27 June 2013 19:16 (ten years ago) link

aw, animated gif of vic's "stay in school, kid" didn't work.

precious bonsai children of new york (Jordan), Thursday, 27 June 2013 19:21 (ten years ago) link

this show

Gukbe, Sunday, 30 June 2013 09:16 (ten years ago) link

ikr

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 30 June 2013 09:26 (ten years ago) link

Okay the finale

Damn

big black nemesis, Puya chilensis (DJP), Sunday, 30 June 2013 11:01 (ten years ago) link

this is a weird show for me because it started out very unsettling and could go _anywhere_ and the idea of being dropped into someone else's life and you have no idea what to do is great nightmare territory. but then it sort of settled out into a more conventional sci-fi narrative, and i had to readjust quite a bit. at first i was relieved to know what was going on, but then i felt cheated by knowing what was going on, and finally they started to open out the clone characters a bit more, make them all sufficiently weird in their own ways, etc.

I thought Maggie was an ex clone-creator who turned against them, and so Beth shot her, and that's really it? I think we do have no idea why Beth killed herself yet though.

stefon taylor swiftboat (s.clover), Sunday, 30 June 2013 16:21 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LX_VKjVaW3M

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 20 July 2013 12:53 (ten years ago) link

three weeks pass...

i have watched the first five episodes of this today

think i might go for broke

mookieproof, Sunday, 11 August 2013 03:50 (ten years ago) link

It's addicitve, but maybe save the rest for tomorrow?

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 11 August 2013 03:51 (ten years ago) link

that would probably be a good idea

we'll see

mookieproof, Sunday, 11 August 2013 03:53 (ten years ago) link

watched 5 eps and I'm done with it. main actress is great obv but its too cheesy and more frustratingly is way too slow and boring

congratulations (n/a), Sunday, 11 August 2013 04:09 (ten years ago) link

it gets much less slow the more eps you go in.

stefon taylor swiftboat (s.clover), Sunday, 11 August 2013 04:44 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, if anything, the final two episodes go by too fast.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 11 August 2013 04:50 (ten years ago) link

this morning i reread neuromancer in one sitting

it's been a weird day

mookieproof, Sunday, 11 August 2013 05:03 (ten years ago) link

lol @ me

mookieproof, Sunday, 11 August 2013 08:01 (ten years ago) link

just finished the first season, adored it. i care more about alison and cosima than anyone else, i think. i especially love felix begrudgingly becoming alison's friend, and the suburban plotline generally. holy shit @ alison in the finale: no direct spoilers, but out of a whole season of shocking things, that shocked me the most.

also delphine is like transcendentally gorgeous imo, i don't blame cosima one bit for wanting to get closer to her.

certified skeleton fucker (reddening), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 08:18 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...
one month passes...

Maggie Chen was part of the religious nutters who raised Helena and who managed to infiltrate DYAD (cf. the fish knife and the brand or tattoo on Maggie's neck). Don't think we know for sure exactly why Beth shot her.

IMO finale ruined by the unrealistically simplistic encoding techniques and the stuff about ASCII. Yes, I know this is a show about clones.

Matt Groening's Cousin (Leee), Sunday, 3 November 2013 03:57 (ten years ago) link

four months pass...

Ooh ooh ooh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfUxpTSnq4o

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 11 March 2014 23:08 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

this was so good. such an amazing job of tone, vibes, whatever you want to call it. never too wacky or too bleak, despite many moments that seriously swing in one of those directions.

call all destroyer, Friday, 11 April 2014 02:15 (ten years ago) link

Didn't think the final ep of season 1 augured well but Season 2 opened pretty strongly - all the accents still slightly off, still corny as all hell, still redeemed by indefatigable scene stealing (and clone zone assless chaps) from Felix - plus this season: shameless Guffman rip-off + Show Tunes! But still incredibly watchable!

Stevie T, Sunday, 20 April 2014 21:13 (ten years ago) link

This is what i am talking about, best series on tv right now.

xelab, Sunday, 20 April 2014 22:40 (ten years ago) link

Allison is still my favorite clone. Nothing about last night's episode tempted me to change my mind.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 20 April 2014 22:55 (ten years ago) link

Kinda disappointed that they pulled the "Helena is still alive" card. That storyline was enjoyable and all, but still.

Herbie Handcock (Murgatroid), Sunday, 20 April 2014 22:57 (ten years ago) link

I had that same thought, but then there is that whole thing where she and Sarah and Kira all heal very quickly (not necessarily shared by the other clones?). Which might explain why Rachel et al are so fixated on them in particular. Anyway, Helena is awesome, so I won't begrudge it.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 20 April 2014 23:09 (ten years ago) link

Also, my shark-jump test for this show will be if/when they decide to give Felix some kind of backstory where he's involved in the whole thing. Because I could imagine that as a season 3 surprise or something when they run out of other twists, but nothing that's happened so far would make that make sense. You're on notice, Orphan Black writers!

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 20 April 2014 23:12 (ten years ago) link

There's already a theory that Felix is Sarah's monitor, which the show's creators won't confirm or deny.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 20 April 2014 23:25 (ten years ago) link

maybe the writers really liked that Matthew McConaughey movie

mh, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 15:15 (six years ago) link

has everyone given up? this week was a return to the good side of ridiculous shenanigans imo, or maybe i was just easily won over by the generous helping of krystal we were gifted

first if all i want to apologize for getting that immortal line from days of heaven wrong, it's "dirt doctor"

second of all i have not been able to watch this which i am a little upset about tbh, i have missed the last two eps and won't get to see them until NEXT sunday at the earliest. then again it will be a 3-hr rock block so i'm not complaining too much.

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 16 July 2017 22:05 (six years ago) link

havent watched newest ep yet

but by god this season has been some of the laziest, most manufactured non-drama. it's playing out like a fanfic where the author just doesnt know how to end the story so they're digging up old characters for no reason & meandering all over the place. every character is reduced to explaining the plot or crying/yelling for no reason, it all just feels like warmed-over bollocks right now & i've been grudgingly hatewatching the last few tbh

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 16 July 2017 22:15 (six years ago) link

sadly agree, also haven't watched the newest but if I'm still awake after Twin Peaks and The Strain and.. man there's a lot of tv starting back up now

mh, Monday, 17 July 2017 00:40 (six years ago) link

I'm going to watch this week's when my dinner's ready, but I'm not super looking forward to it tbh. Even knowing there's Krystal content.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Monday, 17 July 2017 00:42 (six years ago) link

I lied. Maybe tomorrow night.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Monday, 17 July 2017 03:53 (six years ago) link

god this is a stupid pointless slog

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 17 July 2017 04:57 (six years ago) link

even with Krystal

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 17 July 2017 04:57 (six years ago) link

There's definitely something a little 'final season of Lost' about introducing all of these new characters and themes and locales at the eleventh hour instead of wrapping up everything that came before, but as someone mentioned above...I barely even remember the intricacies of the plot at this point. It's really all about the character interactions for me. Which is why they need to stop dicking around and just get all of the clones and Felix and S and Art and Donnie and Delphine the Rabbit Hole twins together and just let them enjoy one another's company for a few episodes.

Dippin' Sauce on my Nice New Slacks (Old Lunch), Monday, 17 July 2017 13:00 (six years ago) link

otm

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 17 July 2017 16:53 (six years ago) link

It's still better than the season with the army etc

Choco Blavatsky (seandalai), Tuesday, 18 July 2017 22:29 (six years ago) link

is it tho

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 18 July 2017 22:52 (six years ago) link

Popping in quickly here. My wife and I have seen the first three episodes of season 1. She's not really on board and likely won't ask to watch more. Should I bother trying to convince her, or do we already have a pretty good idea what the show will be like?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 03:23 (six years ago) link

if she's not on board after the first 3 then idk that it'll impress her

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 03:46 (six years ago) link

yeah s1 is the apex imo

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 04:00 (six years ago) link

Rachel is secretly one of the best OB characters. That last scene though!

Choco Blavatsky (seandalai), Sunday, 23 July 2017 22:48 (six years ago) link

only about halfway through so this could backfire, but I'm cracking up at the "new" Alison

mh, Monday, 24 July 2017 00:26 (six years ago) link

ok, jamming to the keyboard preset was the punchline

mh, Monday, 24 July 2017 00:27 (six years ago) link

Fuck I KNEW Rachel was gonna do that as soon as the eye thing was revealed. I just kept waiting and waiting for it. And then had to mostly cover my face and not watch it.

just1n3, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 17:51 (six years ago) link

yuuup. that was one of the nastier things I've seen on television recently

mh, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 18:02 (six years ago) link

This season has been brutal, and not in the black-comedy way of past seasons (e.g. The mobsters Helena slaughtered or Donnie accidentally blowing Leekie's brains out)

just1n3, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 22:50 (six years ago) link

it was cool to see more Matt Frewer but I kept thinking "head in a bag!"

mh, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 01:34 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I just got up to speed by reading the episode synopses on wikipedia, and even though some big things have happened in the last three I don't feel like I need to see them. Looking forward to Saturday night when this is all finally over.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 10 August 2017 17:40 (six years ago) link

the last two eps have been better, things actually "hapening" etc

still not great

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 10 August 2017 18:54 (six years ago) link

i definitely teared up at the [REDACTED EMOTIONAL MOMENT] scene

maura, Sunday, 13 August 2017 02:49 (six years ago) link

every time i turn around my babies eating sand. i do not know where this sand comes from. i let them eat it

mh, Sunday, 13 August 2017 02:52 (six years ago) link

jam burgers

Choco Blavatsky (seandalai), Sunday, 13 August 2017 22:20 (six years ago) link

That was such an emotionally satisfying finale. I love how they disposed with all the obviously rubbish villains within the first 15mins or so and just spent the rest of the episode giving us what we've been wanting all along.

Matt DC, Sunday, 13 August 2017 22:26 (six years ago) link

So is that it or are there any offshoots planned or anything?

I thought that finished off taht particular narrative quite effectively anyway.

JUst hoping we are going to hear from Tatiana Maslany before too long with as strong a role or set of roles. She is obviously pretty versatile. The ability to play off herself or off the substitute they shoot with is pretty phenomenal.

Stevolende, Monday, 14 August 2017 14:54 (six years ago) link

This is it for television

The merchandising is churning a little, every action/science fiction television show has some sort of comic book spinoff. For the people that buy those things, probably not anyone who actually works on the tv show, just some people writing little stories of other clones.

Even after the credits rolled and they had the little dancing clip with all the different clones, I have this mental disconnect where I know all of the clones are played by one woman, but I still look at them and see different people

mh, Monday, 14 August 2017 15:46 (six years ago) link

enjoyed the finale a lot -- especially the sistrahs hanging out together

omg @ babies eating sand. lololol

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 14 August 2017 16:02 (six years ago) link

was made of tears during the baby delivery scene

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 14 August 2017 16:03 (six years ago) link

Even after the credits rolled and they had the little dancing clip with all the different clones

I missed this!

Matt DC, Monday, 14 August 2017 16:31 (six years ago) link

It might have been only on the live broadcast. They kept teasing "clone club, watch after the credits for something special!"

mh, Monday, 14 August 2017 17:07 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMIGUDVB2Aw

maura, Monday, 14 August 2017 17:34 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

Just finally watched the last season of this -- we watched the first 4 in real time, but we were wrapped up in other things when season 5 rolled around. We weren't even sure we needed to watch because we'd gotten a little tired of it by the end of S4. But we got totally sucked back in in a few episodes and overall enjoyed the last season. They labored mightily to try to tie everything together, and the effort showed, but I respected the attempt at coherence. Mostly just loved the characters, as usual. Good show, satisfying ending. It's my favorite Buffy-ish thing since Buffy.

yeah otm. even the bumpy ride towards the end was kinda buffyish in its way.

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 26 August 2018 22:08 (five years ago) link

In the end the conspiracy seemed a bit small potatoes compared to what it felt like in S1, but I guess that's a) inevitable when you have several seasons to get hyped for it and b) kinda the point, i.e. the emperor has no clothes?

Agreed this was a really good show w/ lots of loveable characters.

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 27 August 2018 10:01 (five years ago) link

Is it even possible to do a multi-season conspiracy show without the continual drawing-back-the-curtain getting boring or ridiculous?

A Box of After Dinner Comics Shipped to Your House Each Month (seandalai), Monday, 27 August 2018 14:19 (five years ago) link

five months pass...

I see Tatiana Maslany is in Destroyer but have yet to see that.
Hope she is going to have an interesting film career or more well made quirky TV.

Stevolende, Sunday, 27 January 2019 16:21 (five years ago) link

seven months pass...

New Orphan Black stories. Narrated by TM herself. Sample here.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 18:44 (four years ago) link

what!!?

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 20:37 (four years ago) link

I catastrophically lost interest in this, about halfway during the second season. Was it worth it?

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 21:00 (four years ago) link

I enjoyed it while it was happening, but I think they totally punted the final act.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 21:05 (four years ago) link

I absolutely loved this show and to my shame I dipped halfway thru the last season

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 21:10 (four years ago) link

eight months pass...

Have you heard about this? Orphan Black cast reunion read through of some episode scripts. I missed the beginning and it's live
https://www.facebook.com/orphanblacktv/videos/1125321141162268/?v=1125321141162268¬if_id=1589742058975097¬if_t=live_video

Stevolende, Sunday, 17 May 2020 19:39 (three years ago) link

LOOks like this may have been archived on the FB page . There's about 3 hours of the cast chatting and reading through a few episodes of the show.
IT was pretty interesting. Link in message above may still be good for this.
I just had the whole thing restart when it eneded so I'm assuming it's going to be around to watch for a while.
THey raised something $13,500 for teh charities this was supporting too

Stevolende, Sunday, 17 May 2020 21:48 (three years ago) link

JUst in case you didn't look at this yesterday I just checked and it seems to be being kept on the Facebook page hosting it.
URL is 2 msgs up.

Stevolende, Monday, 18 May 2020 08:20 (three years ago) link


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