4 Non-Blondes "What's Up" vs Edie Brickell "What I Am"

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Which is the worst?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NXnxTNIWkc
or
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDl3bdE3YQA

Poll Results

OptionVotes
4 Non-Blondes "What's Up" 64
Edie Brickell "What I Am" 31


..it would have sounded about as heavy as Talulah Gosh. (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 5 August 2013 17:39 (ten years ago) link

i like both songs but i REALLY like whats up

69, Monday, 5 August 2013 17:40 (ten years ago) link

haha oh man

THE WORINÐLVE (DJP), Monday, 5 August 2013 17:41 (ten years ago) link

I was struggling to think of something to go against the 4 non blondes that might give it a run for its money then i remembered smithys thread :)

this is going to be a 4 Non Blondes landslide

THE WORINÐLVE (DJP), Monday, 5 August 2013 17:43 (ten years ago) link

What's Up is way worse - that vocal hook is unbearable

joe schmoladoo from 7-11 (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 5 August 2013 17:43 (ten years ago) link

You almost tricked me with that Vote for the WORST question.

At any rate, I about just put a hole through my computer screen ticking the 4NB tab.

Had a little crush on Edie when this song came out. Now I watch that video and think, Good Lord, teenage Pleasant Plains. You could've been watching Heather Thomas on Fall Guy.

pplains, Monday, 5 August 2013 17:44 (ten years ago) link

What's up, my dick?

That is all

Charlie Slothrop (wins), Monday, 5 August 2013 17:44 (ten years ago) link

Always get 4 Non Blondes and L7 mixed up in my head. That's pretty unforgivable on my part, but it happens.

pplains, Monday, 5 August 2013 17:44 (ten years ago) link

I like What's Up. I understand why people don't like it but I need to be true to myself here and vote for Edie Brickell.

Treeship, Monday, 5 August 2013 17:45 (ten years ago) link

I don't know what the hell "Religion is a smile on a dog" means, but it's helluva more poetic simile than LIFE IS A HIGHWAY.

just thought I'd throw that one back out there.

pplains, Monday, 5 August 2013 17:46 (ten years ago) link

yeah my mum actually bought the cd because she likes whats up so for that alone it gets my vote.

One song i really really hate as much as that song is Cher - Believe but that has its fans on ilx.

xp

haha i did consider putting it up against life is a highway

what is this
'what's up' is one of the best songs of the 90s and inspired this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjVugzSR7HA
the other one is one of the worst things ever released
why would you put them in the same poll? *cries*

kinder, Monday, 5 August 2013 17:47 (ten years ago) link

"What's Up?" is a hideous misconception of a song from top to bottom and is only halfway listenable because the overwrought, wholly out-of-place vocal screeching

"What I Am" is basically what Phish would sound like if they didn't want me to punch them in their phishy phaces

THE WORINÐLVE (DJP), Monday, 5 August 2013 17:49 (ten years ago) link

^^^ gets it

Here's the storify, of a lovely ladify (Phil D.), Monday, 5 August 2013 17:50 (ten years ago) link

Literally cannot decide but watching Edie now is a cruel reminder of what a hippie I was in college.

Tottenham Heelspur (in orbit), Monday, 5 August 2013 17:50 (ten years ago) link

i had no idea that the singer of 4 non blondes was a pioneer of steampunk fashion!

call all destroyer, Monday, 5 August 2013 17:50 (ten years ago) link

What's up, my dick?

That is all

so otm

the My Dick Band has permanently elevated the 4 Non Blondes song into the upper echelon of lol

tight in the runs (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 5 August 2013 17:50 (ten years ago) link

I mean, I've rolled my eyes at Edie's empty platitudes before but I've never had the full-on painful belly laughs like I have with "And I try/OH MY GOD DO I TRY"

THE WORINÐLVE (DJP), Monday, 5 August 2013 17:50 (ten years ago) link

I couldnt even pick Bush or Hootie because we brits just didnt hear anything by them. And I refuse to believe they were worse than whats up.

As a budding bass player I was of course enamored by the intro to "What I Am" and would play it for hours. "What's Up" has never made me want to do anything but drop-kick puppies.

Here's the storify, of a lovely ladify (Phil D.), Monday, 5 August 2013 17:51 (ten years ago) link

What's Up is one of the worst songs ever made whereas What I Am is kind of sweet and spawned a great Balearic remix which led to Primal Scream's Loaded so this is an easy one.

Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 5 August 2013 17:51 (ten years ago) link

smithy im sorry for reminding you of the pain of the edie song

I PRAY EVERY SINGLE DAY
FOR REVOLUSHUHHHHH-AHHHH *turns into pteradon, eats unlucky baby, flies into the sunset*

THE WORINÐLVE (DJP), Monday, 5 August 2013 17:52 (ten years ago) link

Every time I see people complaining about Jessie J or Karmin, I remember that Linda Perry sang on a hit song.

THE WORINÐLVE (DJP), Monday, 5 August 2013 17:52 (ten years ago) link

The time that I liked Edie Brickell is coincident with the time I liked Over the Rhine, who looked like this in those days:

http://www.weblo.com/music/images/artists/full/Over_the_Rhine_48f5eec1bfeaa.jpg

Tottenham Heelspur (in orbit), Monday, 5 August 2013 17:52 (ten years ago) link

My gay mum loves what's up btw

Charlie Slothrop (wins), Monday, 5 August 2013 17:53 (ten years ago) link

it is true that he-man what's up is an invaluable piece of internet ephemera

call all destroyer, Monday, 5 August 2013 17:53 (ten years ago) link

I have never played her the my dick version

Charlie Slothrop (wins), Monday, 5 August 2013 17:54 (ten years ago) link

OMG Over the Rhine. Since they were an Ohio band we were legally obligated to play them on our college station. I have a signed CD from them. I am not joking.

PS They are still around and still playing festivals and stuff.

Here's the storify, of a lovely ladify (Phil D.), Monday, 5 August 2013 17:54 (ten years ago) link

if this were strictly on the merits of the original, I hate both of these but at least you can ignore "What I Am." However "What I Am" irritates me more lyrically, which is really saying something, because "What's Up" is not exactly Leonard Cohen. A difficult contest in which the only real fair move is self-immolation

tight in the runs (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 5 August 2013 17:54 (ten years ago) link

The Edie is sooooo much better. Minus the Jerry Garcia envelope filter diaper-guitar solo.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 5 August 2013 17:55 (ten years ago) link

I still have love for OtR. They were not bad.

Tottenham Heelspur (in orbit), Monday, 5 August 2013 17:55 (ten years ago) link

What's Up Lyrics

Twenty-five years I'm alive here still
Trying to get up that great big hill of hope
For a destination

I realized quickly when I knew I should
That the world was made up of this brotherhood of man
For whatever that means

And so I cry sometimes
When I'm lying in bed Just to get it all out
What's in my head
And I, I am feeling a little peculiar.

And so I wake in the morning
And I step outside
And I take a deep breath and I get real high
And I scream from the top of my lungs
What's going on?

And I say: HEY! yeah yeaaah, HEY yeah yea
I said hey, what's going on?

And I say: HEY! yeah yeaaah, HEY yeah yea
I said hey, what's going on?

ooh, ooh ooooooooooooooooh
ooh, ooh ooooooooooooooooh

and I try, oh my god do I try
I try all the time, in this institution

And I pray, oh my god do I pray
I pray all sanctity
For a revolution.

And so I cry sometimes
When I'm lying bed
Just to get it all out
What's in my head
And I, I am feeling a little peculiar

And so I wake in the morning
And I step outside
And I take a deep breath and I get real high
And I scream from the top of my lungs
What's going on?

And I say, hey hey hey hey
I said hey, what's going on?

And I say, hey hey hey hey
I said hey, what's going on?

And I say, hey hey hey hey
I said hey, what's going on?

And I say, hey hey hey hey
I said hey, what's going on?

ooh, ooh ooooooooooooooooh ooooooooooooooooh

Twenty-five years I'm alive here still
Trying to get up that great big hill of hope
for a destination
mmh mh

vs

I'm not aware of too many things
I know what I know, if you know what I mean
Philosophy is the talk on a cereal box
Religion is the smile on a dog
I'm not aware of too many things
I know what I know, if you know what I mean, d-doo yeah

Choke me in the shallow waters
Before I get too deep

What I am is what I am
Are you what you are or what?
What I am is what I am
Are you what you are or

Oh, I'm not aware of too many things
I know what I know, if you know what I mean
Philosophy is a walk on the slippery rocks
Religion is a light in the fog
I'm not aware of too many things
I know what I know, if you know what I mean, d-doo yeah

Choke me in the shallow water
Before I get too deep

What I am is what I am
Are you what you are or what?
What I am is what I am
Are you what you are or what?

What I am is what I am
Are you what you are or what?
What I am is what I am
Are you what you are or what you are and

What I am is what I am
Are you what you are or what?

Don't let me get too deep
Don't let me get too deep
Don't let me get too deep
Don't let me get too deep

Choke me in the shallow water
Before I get too deep
Choke me in the shallow water
Before I get too deep

Choke me in the shallow water
Before I get too deep
Choke me in the shallow water
Before I get too deep

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVK3Zo95Vhg

pplains, Monday, 5 August 2013 17:56 (ten years ago) link

yeah I mean

Philosophy is the talk on a cereal box
Religion is the smile on a dog

that's game over in the horrible lyrics contest forever, flawless victory, none left standing, smoking pile of ash in the corner of every potential opponent. And then she goes and runs up the score with

Choke me in the shallow water
Before I get too deep

tight in the runs (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 5 August 2013 17:57 (ten years ago) link

if we had an open thread titled "name the worst most bad and hated song that ever charted: GO!" the answer would still be What's Up.

resulting post (rogermexico.), Monday, 5 August 2013 17:58 (ten years ago) link

ah do yeah

pplains, Monday, 5 August 2013 17:58 (ten years ago) link

I swear I cant think of a worse song than What's Up

Mind you I cant think of a worse guitar solo than the one in What I Am

I just realised this is why I hate 'what I am' and that I've never heard the original, I don't think
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEOeClFSQ1o

As much as I love 'what's up' I've always been annoyed at "And I scream from the top of my lungs"
You scream FROM the bottom of your lungs or AT the top of your lungs

Screaming from the top of your lungs would be like ~hhh eeehhhhh ehhh~ creepy shit

kinder, Monday, 5 August 2013 17:59 (ten years ago) link

almost kinda miss these white hippie bands with like nine members. "Hey, you know how to shake the gourds? Well, we're not Camper Van Beethoven or anything, but if you were good enough for Poi Dog Pondering, you're good enough for us."

pplains, Monday, 5 August 2013 18:00 (ten years ago) link

That Rusted Root song (dunno the name, it's in a bank commercial now or something) should've been a third poll option.

xp to aero: but dog is god backwards DO YOU SEE

THE WORINÐLVE (DJP), Monday, 5 August 2013 18:00 (ten years ago) link

yeah it was baby spices first solo song

tarfumes i dunno it and these 2 songs are well known all over the western world (which is why black velvet beat life is a highway)

even if "what's up" wasn't my least favorite song of all time (w/ "zombie" and "breakfast at tiffany's" right behind it) and even if "what i am" didn't quote popeye i'd still give it to brickell. she's capable of making steve martin laugh apparently which is something. plus there are other edie brickell songs i very passively enjoy in a shopping for produce and listening to solo natalie merchant way. otoh linda perry has actually been involved w/ a number of actually great songs. but none of them were by 4 non-blondes.

balls, Monday, 5 August 2013 18:01 (ten years ago) link

like i couldve chosen toploader or that dodgy song but only the brits would know that

these are both great songs everyone is just jealous of how catchy they are!

stefon taylor swiftboat (s.clover), Monday, 5 August 2013 18:02 (ten years ago) link

ohh yeah zombie coulda been a contender for whats up

man, what's up with that?

pplains, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 14:05 (seven years ago) link

Everybody playing what I am my jr yr of college was a fake deadhead ecstatic that touch of grey was on radio hit and finally a deadhead friendly young band and let's hack man.

wishy washy hippy variety hour (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 14:06 (seven years ago) link

my freshman year roommate knew the what i am guitar solo NOTE FOR NOTE. what a pantydropper eh boys

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 14:07 (seven years ago) link

So glad I hit that sweet spot between Edie Brickell and Jewell for my college years. LICK MY LIPS I'M ON FIRE

pplains, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 14:26 (seven years ago) link

Hear that lonesome whippoorwill
He sounds too blue to fly
The midnight train is whining low
And I scream at the top of my lungs, "What's going on?"

who even are those other cats (Eazy), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 16:24 (seven years ago) link

argh

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 16:30 (seven years ago) link

good lord, that spring break performance is dire. band and audience both seem bored and tired, and perry cannot adjust whatsoever to a different vibe/scale of audience. not sure a laid-back, beachy good-time version of "what's up" is possible but it would have been worth it to try.

tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 16:54 (seven years ago) link

I was just going to ask about that really fucked up acoustic guitar, can't search the thread on my phone but shocked of that hadn't been brought up yet.

Also the mocking of the envelope filter guitar solo the other day got me listening to a bunch of 70s versions of "Fire on the Mountain" which has been good.

joygoat, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 19:13 (seven years ago) link

seven months pass...

Touch of grey was a the shitty mulch imo, seemed like he inev conclusion

for the last while (Hunt3r), Saturday, 28 October 2017 03:44 (six years ago) link

four months pass...

This stupid bar has played both in the last hour

calstars, Monday, 5 March 2018 22:09 (six years ago) link

Hate to be a bummer, but it's possible you had an unexpected and deadly accident and are now in the bad place.

Moodles, Monday, 5 March 2018 22:20 (six years ago) link

It’s true

calstars, Monday, 5 March 2018 22:32 (six years ago) link

I love how it was uncool in the 90s to name your song after the chorus and What's Up is my favorite example and on an unrelated note my least favorite song of all time

orifex, Monday, 5 March 2018 23:06 (six years ago) link

yeah I like what I am more

Alfred you definitely bring up a good point that Edie pioneered that college radio reared hippies market niche that Matthews et al took to the bank

It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 5 March 2018 23:28 (six years ago) link

i hope he was really drunk when those songs played

Algerian Goalkeeper (Odysseus), Sunday, 18 March 2018 04:40 (six years ago) link

nine months pass...

Why is the 4NB song so bad and hated? It's inarguably chock full of hooks. I think they're GOOD hooks. I like the unabashed use of acoustic guitar which you really don't hear much in top 40. The sentiment is corny and maudlin, sure. Is that what people hate about it? It's hard to call it hackwork, Linda Perry has an extensive catalog of good songs. WHAT'S UP is basically what I'm asking.

GarugBand (rip van wanko), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 16:27 (five years ago) link

kinder at 9:43 11 Mar 17

What's Up is brilliant

kinder, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 17:10 (five years ago) link

What's Up is bad enough that an earthquake was unleashed to attempt to kill the band before they could record it. a bit harsh if you ask me but there it is.

omar little, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 17:25 (five years ago) link

hmm this story checks out. am i going to hell for liking this song

GarugBand (rip van wanko), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 17:48 (five years ago) link

kinder I applaud your courage

GarugBand (rip van wanko), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 18:09 (five years ago) link

I try
Oh my god do I try

kinder, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 19:53 (five years ago) link

Don’t try

calstars, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 19:56 (five years ago) link

In What I Am, Edie Brickell sings "I know what I know if you know what I mean? D-do ya?", but at first I thought she was singing "D-derriere."

On a different note, I don't think I had ever put together until just now that her future husband had a song called "I Know What I Know" on Graceland. I mean, I knew his song but didn't catch on that she also had the title in her lyric.

peace, man, Thursday, 17 January 2019 12:58 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

I PRAY EVERY SINGLE DAY
FOR REVOLUSHUHHHHH-AHHHH *turns into pteradon, eats unlucky baby, flies into the sunset*

― THE WORINÐLVE (DJP), Monday, August 5, 2013 1:52 PM bookmarkflaglink

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 06:53 (three years ago) link

My son's girlfriend loves 'What's Going On' so I am now not allowed to say bad things about it.

but I pray, oh, my God, do I pray

Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 08:25 (three years ago) link

You should pull a reverse "Rude" and show up at your son's girlfriend's house and break up with her for him.

Joe Biden Shot My Dog - Vols. I-XL (PBKR), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 12:31 (three years ago) link

She's really nice she just likes a bad song.

My rudeness extends to commenting out loud on the size of Linda Perry's mouth and speculating on whether she or Steve Tyler could eat the biggest whole orange.

Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 12:37 (three years ago) link

Hatgoggles

velcro-magnon (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 12:46 (three years ago) link

Imagine a Linda Perry/Steve Tyler screech duet

DJP, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 14:18 (three years ago) link

i love that this poll is on ile

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 14:20 (three years ago) link

Finally, a Tyler Perry that white people can understand.

pplains, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 15:00 (three years ago) link

holy lol

DJP, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 15:28 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

great songs both

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, March 11, 2017 12:11 PM (five years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 6 June 2022 15:54 (one year ago) link

screaming at the top of my lungs

Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Monday, 6 June 2022 15:55 (one year ago) link

best “What” song from this era: Haddaway’s “What Is Love”

butt-mooning is a polysemous word, hoss! (breastcrawl), Monday, 6 June 2022 16:25 (one year ago) link

Or Tribe's "What?"

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 June 2022 16:31 (one year ago) link

Whiney otm

brimstead, Monday, 6 June 2022 19:27 (one year ago) link

Whiney otm

brimstead, Monday, 6 June 2022 19:27 (one year ago) link

Lol whoops

The remix of “what I am” with the soul2soul/“loaded” beat rules

brimstead, Monday, 6 June 2022 19:29 (one year ago) link

assumed bump was for https://www.theguardian.com/music/2022/jun/06/linda-perry-non-blonde-pink-christina-aguilera-dolly-parton-gwen-stefani-courtney-love

looking at the Guardian took me a few times to not read it as Legendary Hat Maker

maf you one two (maffew12), Monday, 6 June 2022 19:42 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

I have What's Up stuck in my head this morning and I want to die

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 31 August 2022 14:37 (one year ago) link

^fav Nirvana b-side

and the worms, they entered his ass (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 31 August 2022 17:31 (one year ago) link

4 Non Blondes - What's Up (Official Music Video)
1,373,815,500 views

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 31 August 2022 17:40 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

grocery store last night, place is basically two big rooms/areas and i guess they have two different sound systems. "What's Up?" was coming out of the speakers in the frozen/meat room; near the front, by the juice bar, another speaker was pumping out something where the lyrics got muffled out by the aisles of canned goods, but this chunky, thunky beat was coming through --- the kind of thing that 90s Yamahas keyboards would include as a "rap" or "hip-hop" beat, like bassy RZA drums with no spooky samples. anyway they were really locking together well, the BPM didn't synch completely so not everything worked but it sorta grounded and slowed down "What's Up?" in a way that i think really helped it a lot. maybe the best it's worked for me in years.not sure "What I Am" would be susceptible to this process, as its coffee-shop rhythm section is so much a part of the songwriting itself.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 17 November 2022 17:08 (one year ago) link

The unusual name of the band came from an experience the group had in the Bay Area with a blonde family. According to Christa Hillhouse, "Right next to us, there's a trash receptacle with a piece of pizza on top and the kid wanted to pick it up. The mom said, 'No, it's probably dirty, what with the pigeons and people.' And she stared right at us. We were Non Blondes."[8]

The experience and the name became a symbol that they didn't fit the California stereotype.

omar little, Thursday, 17 November 2022 17:16 (one year ago) link

not sure "What I Am" would be susceptible to this process

just came across the existence of this thanks to an aside in David Cavanagh's Creation book

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq3RJaAgh3U

j.o.h.n. in evanston (john. a resident of chicago.), Thursday, 17 November 2022 18:00 (one year ago) link

great find. wow the Mad Magic DJs really burned the midnight oil on that one, huh?

Doctor Casino, Friday, 18 November 2022 12:22 (one year ago) link

hell yeah, balearic my friends

lets hear some blues on those synths (brimstead), Friday, 18 November 2022 17:43 (one year ago) link


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