American Politics Thread 2014

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let us lol at this activist judge

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 16 December 2014 21:31 (nine years ago) link

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-medical-pot-20141216-story.html

Dana Rohrabacher is a horrible douchebag but I guess even horrible douchebags can do good things sometimes

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 16 December 2014 23:00 (nine years ago) link

wow that... snuck under the radar

Nhex, Tuesday, 16 December 2014 23:58 (nine years ago) link

only in effect till next september tho

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 00:38 (nine years ago) link

^Lonesome Rhodes

― things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, December 16, 2014 8:28 AM (14 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

A young Lee Remick? Yes, please.

Banned on the Run (benbbag), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 04:17 (nine years ago) link

Dana Rohrabacher is a horrible douchebag but I guess even horrible douchebags can do good things sometimes

http://www.azquotes.com/quote/579754

Same sense of entitlement that applies to the money side of privilege; no surprise that easy riders went right-wing.

Banned on the Run (benbbag), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 04:21 (nine years ago) link

(n.b. "douchebag" "good things" are umlaut's, not mine)

Banned on the Run (benbbag), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 04:22 (nine years ago) link

maybe it's the paucity of good news these days but i found the announcement of changes in cuba policy really moving

goole, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 17:29 (nine years ago) link

finally.

goole, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 17:30 (nine years ago) link

anyone wanna bet obama and the next attorney general, after 14 long, long years, try khalid sheikh mohammed before the supreme court, then cheney and bush for torture, pre-empting whatever republican bullshit showtrials are planned for the next two years? i'll wager 911 WMDs!

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 17:39 (nine years ago) link

that would be a good SNL alt-universe sketch, where Obama turns into Noam Chomsky

things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 17:48 (nine years ago) link

he's a socialist muslim though i've heard tell

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 17:56 (nine years ago) link

obama could literally turn into noam chomsky tomorrow and you'd still get ppl calling him worse than cheney

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 20:14 (nine years ago) link

i don't think we need to worry

things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 20:26 (nine years ago) link

maybe it's the paucity of good news these days but i found the announcement of changes in cuba policy really moving

surprised there hasn't been more chatter about it here --- seems like kind of a big deal, no?

gbx, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 20:35 (nine years ago) link

well people helpfully revived every cuba thread they could find

goole, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 20:38 (nine years ago) link

Rubio looks like a little kid with a combover

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 20:55 (nine years ago) link

obama could literally turn into noam chomsky tomorrow and you'd still get ppl calling him worse than cheney

― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, December 17, 2014 2:14 PM (43 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I have to hand it to you, that is one hell of a 1st class, never-to-be-testable conditional hypothetical posing as an obviously verifiable assertion.

Vic Perry, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 21:01 (nine years ago) link

but let's look forward not backward

Vic Perry, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 21:03 (nine years ago) link

or sideward into alternate dimensions

Vic Perry, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 21:04 (nine years ago) link

its too late I guess no one cares about the cigars anymore

Brian Eno's Mother (Latham Green), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 21:28 (nine years ago) link

sometimes a cigar is just a middle finger to marco rubio

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 21:36 (nine years ago) link

xp: cigars could very well turn into bacon as a result of these events.

the mooney tanuki (how's life), Thursday, 18 December 2014 12:36 (nine years ago) link

Washington Post editorial is against the Cuba change, because creating diplomatic relations with Vietnam has not made that country a democracy or improved its human rights, and they are convinced this ochange won't help either. Plus they throw in some Venezuela comparisons.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-obama-administration-extends-the-castro-regime-in-cuba-a-bailout-it-doesnt-deserve/2014/12/17/a25a15d4-860c-11e4-9534-f79a23c40e6c_story.html

The Vietnam outcome is what the Castros are counting on: a flood of U.S. tourists and business investment that will allow the regime to maintain its totalitarian system indefinitely. Mr. Obama may claim that he has dismantled a 50-year-old failed policy; what he has really done is give a 50-year-old failed regime a new lease on life.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 18 December 2014 15:21 (nine years ago) link

WaPo editorial page is a horrorshow

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 December 2014 15:23 (nine years ago) link

Mr. Obama may claim that he has dismantled a 50-year-old failed policy; what he has really done is give a 50-year-old failed regime a new lease on life.

we were THIS close to finally crushing the Castros! THIS CLOSE!

ya'll are the ones who don't know things (Karl Malone), Thursday, 18 December 2014 15:26 (nine years ago) link

good news:

President Barack Obama can thank outgoing Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) for triggering the "nuclear option" in November 2013 and securing him one of the most robust judicial legacies of any modern president.

In six years, he has appointed a whopping 307 judges, who will shape the law for decades after he leaves office. The final 12 district judges were confirmed in the closing night of the Senate session on Tuesday, Reid's final move before Democrats surrender control of the chamber.

"The Obama Administration and the United States Senate have given Americans the best possible holiday present: the gift of justice," said Nan Aron, the president of the progressive law and policy group Alliance For Justice.

A total of 132 judges were confirmed in the 113th Congress — the most since the 1970s.

Perhaps most significant is his appointment of 53 judges on federal circuit courts, which have the last word on most matters of law. When Obama took office, just one of 13 appeals courts had a majority of Democratic-appointed judges on the active bench. Today, nine of 13 appeals courts have a majority of Democratic appointees.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 December 2014 17:11 (nine years ago) link

but:

Research by political scientists Robert Carp and Kenneth Manning finds that Obama's judges are "somewhat more liberal than the Clinton judges but slightly less liberal than the Carter and Johnson jurists," based on an analysis of rulings from 1932 to 2013 by judges appointed by each of the Democratic presidents.

which dovetails with Obama's own politics.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 December 2014 17:13 (nine years ago) link

Still. Just the fact that they aren't repub nominees...

Frederik B, Thursday, 18 December 2014 17:27 (nine years ago) link

This is because he couldn't get any judges through before, right?

Nhex, Thursday, 18 December 2014 17:31 (nine years ago) link

so this might be Harry Reid's legacy

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 December 2014 17:56 (nine years ago) link

I have always wanted to see the empirical facts about all these marvelous Dem-appointed judges

things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 18 December 2014 18:01 (nine years ago) link

I tend to conclude, based on evidence, that it's in the judiciary where Dems and the GOP appoint their more liberal and conservative rubber stamps.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 December 2014 18:05 (nine years ago) link

Quick unrelated question, needed for work: is following the US Congress or Senate debates free in the US? Is that C-Span, and does that come free for every US citizen with a basic telly or cable subscription? Ie. *not* in a package deal you need to pay extra for? Thanks in advance!

a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Thursday, 18 December 2014 23:35 (nine years ago) link

nothing is free in the US

Οὖτις, Thursday, 18 December 2014 23:36 (nine years ago) link

You aren't kidding, are you?

a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Thursday, 18 December 2014 23:40 (nine years ago) link

it comes for free...with the cable package that you're expected to pay for every month in order to be a true american

♪♫_\o/_♫♪ (Karl Malone), Thursday, 18 December 2014 23:41 (nine years ago) link

I'm not kidding. Cable subscriptions cost money. C-SPAN is part of basic cable though yes. Although it should be noted that C-Span is not just 24-7 congressional proceedings, and there is more than one C-Span channel. Also Congressional and Senate debates/hearings/vote proceedings are typically excruciatingly boring. You do get some instances where people do some ridiculous name calling/grandstanding/hyperbolizing, primarily committee hearings. And then there was Newtie's innovation of speaking to an empty chamber after hours while still making out like you were addressing an assembly - dunno if anyone does that anymore...

Οὖτις, Thursday, 18 December 2014 23:41 (nine years ago) link

you were he was

Οὖτις, Thursday, 18 December 2014 23:42 (nine years ago) link

you can also stream it online here for free...once you've authenticated your cable subscription package. you DO have a cable subscription package, don't you? if not you are very suspicious, frankly *dials department of homeland security*

♪♫_\o/_♫♪ (Karl Malone), Thursday, 18 December 2014 23:42 (nine years ago) link

And then there was Newtie's innovation of speaking to an empty chamber after hours while still making out like you were addressing an assembly - dunno if anyone does that anymore...

oh, they do

♪♫_\o/_♫♪ (Karl Malone), Thursday, 18 December 2014 23:43 (nine years ago) link

lol

Οὖτις, Thursday, 18 December 2014 23:43 (nine years ago) link

it is every american citizen's right to have the opportunity to watch their elected leaders conducting business, once the citizen has purchased a cable subscription package

♪♫_\o/_♫♪ (Karl Malone), Thursday, 18 December 2014 23:44 (nine years ago) link

Gingrich made his reputation doing that shit.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 December 2014 23:45 (nine years ago) link

nothing is free in the US

― Οὖτις,

freedom is free

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 December 2014 23:45 (nine years ago) link

Thanks guys, ZS in partic!

a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Thursday, 18 December 2014 23:49 (nine years ago) link

And Shakey

a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Thursday, 18 December 2014 23:50 (nine years ago) link

Now, getting a flag that flew atop the Capitol for 30 seconds, from your congressman, that's free.

pplains, Friday, 19 December 2014 01:14 (nine years ago) link

nothing is free in the US

― Οὖτις, Thursday, December 18, 2014

goddamn right. that's the way it should be.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zn5lEuiwtfQ

Daniel, Esq 2, Friday, 19 December 2014 01:18 (nine years ago) link

i remember when i was 17 hearing bill hicks talk about how he only really understood politics after getting high and watching c-span for 40 hours straight and thinking, oh, i guess i need to do that too. (i never did.)

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 19 December 2014 02:08 (nine years ago) link


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