― David (David), Wednesday, 28 August 2002 19:11 (twenty-two years ago) link
You bring liiiiiiight in
― Rick, Thursday, 29 August 2002 10:08 (twenty-two years ago) link
― yannick, Thursday, 29 August 2002 10:15 (twenty-two years ago) link
underworld filling you with fury? heathen!!!!
― Luke, Thursday, 29 August 2002 10:16 (twenty-two years ago) link
Underworld without Karl's pointless gibbering = middling-to-classic. He does ruin it, tho.
― Venga, Thursday, 29 August 2002 10:24 (twenty-two years ago) link
Thunder thunder lighting ahead
― koisk, Thursday, 29 August 2002 10:50 (twenty-two years ago) link
― j, Thursday, 29 August 2002 11:55 (twenty-two years ago) link
Let's ask all those who were bopping their asses off in that Liverpudlian airfield last weekend to the rhythms of Cowgirl/Rez what they think of dubnobass...
― StarryVeck, Thursday, 29 August 2002 12:31 (twenty-two years ago) link
dubno is Bernard Summer discovering Fool's Gold on a 4/4 skyscraper in a city of balkanized thoughts. so classic Christ was on crutches.
― slippyepic, Thursday, 29 August 2002 14:54 (twenty-two years ago) link
End topic
― Dirty0900, Thursday, 29 August 2002 15:05 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 29 August 2002 15:38 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 29 August 2002 15:59 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Detour, Thursday, 29 August 2002 18:46 (twenty-two years ago) link
(as is just about everything else they've done, but I'm just a fanboy anyway! 8))
Their music changed my outlook on life in many (positive) ways which is more than I can say of any other band. And I know I'm not alone in that, so there must be something special.
― King of Snake, Friday, 30 August 2002 10:25 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Vinnie (vprabhu), Friday, 30 August 2002 11:26 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Dave M. (rotten03), Friday, 30 August 2002 13:08 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Mike (mratford), Monday, 2 September 2002 19:09 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 3 September 2002 12:14 (twenty-two years ago) link
― whoever (whoever), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 07:29 (twenty years ago) link
But then again, my fav one is Beaucoup Fish, so what do I know (Jumbo sounds more like Wire than Elastica ever did)
― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 09:15 (twenty years ago) link
I don't understand all those comments above about it sounding a bit dated!!!! Er, how can I put this, it's a decade old dance music album, of course it's going to sound dated!!!!! And as for that "Awful, soulless, funk-free British knotted-hankie-on-yer-head techno shitness", that's a bit like saying The Eagles would have been decent if they shaved their beards off and didn't play guitars ie it's kind of missing the point in a massive way!!!! At the time most of the decent techno was soul-less, funk-free British knotted-hankie-on-yer-head, (or alternatively soul-less, funk-free and from Johnny Foreigner in Euroland!!!!!) and that's why it was bloody ace!!!! If you wanted "funky" and "soulful", you could go for progessive house, "garage", retreads of late-80s Detroit, "ambient dub" and millions of other dreary bollox that have dated so badly that they make "Dubnobass..." sounds like it was recorded in the year 3759!!!! (And before anyone mentions jungle, let remind you that at the time of the release "Dubnobass..." it was still underground and generally regarded as an extreme 'like gabber with breakbeats' offspring of hardcore rave- at least it was before some berks let go of their "progessive" records for long enough to put "jazz" chords over the beats, although the end results was usually about as "jazzy" as Val Doonican!!!!!)
― Old Fart!!! (oldfart_sd), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 10:16 (twenty years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 10:23 (twenty years ago) link
― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 17:35 (twenty years ago) link
http://www.underworldlive.com/?p=36050&preview=true
Dubnobasswithmyheadman is the first remastered work to be released, there are plans in place to remaster and reissue all of the Underworld’s studio albums in the next few years.
― StanM, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 14:05 (ten years ago) link
oh my god, what I wouldn't give to be at that show
― Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 14:07 (ten years ago) link
also if ALL the studio albums are getting this treatment, who knows what awesome stuff could get unearthed. "Five Points"? "Cappe Ffuno" (or whatever that was?) A full length "Parc"? "You Do Scribble" with vocals? "Globe"?? This is going to be incredible.
― Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 16:23 (ten years ago) link
psyched, been waiting for a second toughest remaster. one of my favorite albums, but the CD quality isn't really up to par. always gotta crank my speakers double to get the proper effect.
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 16:25 (ten years ago) link
the remastered Cowgirl (single edit) you get when you preorder is pretty sweet
― StanM, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 16:52 (ten years ago) link
I'M INVISIBO
― StanM, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 16:53 (ten years ago) link
In January ‘94, Rick Smith, Darren Emerson & Karl Hyde released their debut album – Dubnobasswithmyheadman
uh wait
― Everyone is awful except you. Wait, no, you are also awful. (jjjusten), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 17:26 (ten years ago) link
haha
― Star Gentle Uterus (DJP), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 17:26 (ten years ago) link
Second Toughest sounds better than Dubno at least. Put on my minty mint copy of Dubno LP this morning to celebrate. Danced with my daughter to Spoonman. Wonder where Why Why Why is though? Seems like a pretty glaring omission.
― brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 17:26 (ten years ago) link
had to double-check - that IS an odd one to leave out, since it was on the Japanese version and IMO fits in well with everything else. imagine how crazy all this would be if that '93 DAT had never been found?
― Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 17:49 (ten years ago) link
im still boggling at that line from the press release, guess ill never get to hear "Rubber Ball (Space Kitchen)" in glorious HD mastered bluray quality.
― Everyone is awful except you. Wait, no, you are also awful. (jjjusten), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 17:52 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxdNS8WNSOY
― Everyone is awful except you. Wait, no, you are also awful. (jjjusten), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 17:55 (ten years ago) link
Has any other band buried their original incarnation as successfully as Underworld has?
― Star Gentle Uterus (DJP), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 18:02 (ten years ago) link
man, i don't think so. if it hadn't been for EBM comps i would never have discovered those first 2 albums
― Everyone is awful except you. Wait, no, you are also awful. (jjjusten), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 18:05 (ten years ago) link
It was the Sire "Just Say ______" comps, right? That's where I first heard "Crash" IIRC
― Star Gentle Uterus (DJP), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 18:08 (ten years ago) link
Y kant tori read?Japan?
― StanM, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 18:12 (ten years ago) link
there were TWO original incarnations - don't forget about Freur!
― Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 18:12 (ten years ago) link
No one forgot about Freur
― Star Gentle Uterus (DJP), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 18:21 (ten years ago) link
oh wait maybe it was "Just Say Mao" w/thrash on it
― Everyone is awful except you. Wait, no, you are also awful. (jjjusten), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 18:27 (ten years ago) link
a double disc Freur set would be awesome. Get Us Out Of Here desperately needs remastering and I believe there are a lot of interesting oddities from that period. In particular I always saw "Alabaster White Thing" as the bridge from their 80's period to Underworld mk2. Some of those mk1 songs are gold though ("Change the Weather", "Stand Up", "I Need a Doctor", and of course "Underneath the Radar", excellent songs all of 'em)
― Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 18:34 (ten years ago) link
oh wait lol it was "Thrash", "Crash" was The Primitives
― Star Gentle Uterus (DJP), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 18:36 (ten years ago) link
(def on Just Say Mao tho)
If it hadnt been for them having a #1 single I never would have discovered that first album
That line from the press release is very carefully accurate!
― rage against martin sheen (sic), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:13 (ten years ago) link
i have never really thought of this as an album on cd that needs remastering.
has that fat warm 90s techno sound that i love before the loudness wars kicked in.
i reckon the cd sounds perfectly fine, hope they dont push the sonics too hard.
― mark e, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 09:44 (ten years ago) link
This is one of the only albums I actively hoped would get remastered. It's so quiet compared to other albums.
― brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 12:07 (ten years ago) link
i can see them boosting the levels a bit, both that and STITI are weirdly quiet, even by 90's CD standards. though in my opinion no UW release really needs remastering, they all sound great and I'd be curious if they touched the post-Second Toughest albums at all.
― Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Wednesday, 25 June 2014 13:18 (ten years ago) link
I suppose it was their debut with Emerson, but yeah, this band seems very intent on burying mk1. Alanis has done a pretty good job burying her first couple albums.
― Vinnie, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 13:21 (ten years ago) link
even these offcuts sound bloody good ..
https://soundcloud.com/underworld/saved-from-the-cutting-room-floor-mix-underworld-vs-the-misterons-1
― mark e, Wednesday, 3 September 2014 12:57 (ten years ago) link
Listened to that mix twice yesterday and was stunned at the quality of material left behind. This mix has jumped pretty high on my list of favorite UW mixes.
― brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 3 September 2014 14:00 (ten years ago) link
agreed.loved listening to that.a genuine headphone friendly megamix.oh for a proper high quality offline version.
― mark e, Wednesday, 3 September 2014 14:08 (ten years ago) link
that misterons mix is a pretty sweet suite -- any opinions on the merits of the bonus material on the box -- looks like the 5-disk set has hit spotify and many have been posted to youtube.
really like the LP-size format for CD box-sets, but the 60 page booklet looks to be filled with fluff. At least they got the price-point right at 50 quid.
― bodacious ignoramus, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 19:17 (nine years ago) link
http://www.digitalspy.com/music/interviews/a601913/underworlds-karl-hyde-interview-were-already-making-a-new-album.html#~oS2rGOckFNUT7H
some good news here!!
― Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 20:19 (nine years ago) link
Only listened to CD5 so far, the live studio disk, but it's rather lovely
― ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 02:27 (nine years ago) link
Box set arrived today. Pretty happy with it overall. Incredible packaging. What I'm most impressed with is how they distilled all the ideas they had knocking about into a coherent, well paced album. Rick Smith is the best thing to happen to Karl Hyde. The guy is the heartbeat of Underworld.
― brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 02:29 (nine years ago) link
ugh i can't wait to listen to only this
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 02:43 (nine years ago) link
Rick Smith is the best thing to happen to Karl Hyde. The guy is the heartbeat of Underworld.
Hyde says pretty much exactly that.
― Re-Make/Re-Model, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 15:36 (nine years ago) link
...as I'm auditioning this box...
the unreleased material on disk 4 is where it's at; everything else is sorta "samey". Won't be buying this one.
Odd. Twenty years ago I'd have likely blindly purchased and coveted this boxset; today, I scan though the material with little emotion and pick what I like. The original album is still a classic in my eyes, but the bonus material, while voluminous, doesn't add much.
― bodacious ignoramus, Thursday, 23 October 2014 16:17 (nine years ago) link
This boxset would've been a godsend as a 10th anniversary thing, as so many of these tracks were impossible to find, even online. I do think it's odd that it has "Eclipse" but not "Minneapolis" (IMO the better of the two Lemon Interupt singles). Also it doesn't include "Why Why Why" which was a bonus track on the Japanese version and it's a great one. It fits in so well with everything else.
I think the neat thing about this box is getting to hear how the music evolves - how "Bigmouth" (on CD 5) was a precursor to "Dark and Long" in some way, how "Skyscraper" and "Cowgirl" came to be, and so on...Underworld are huge on this kind of thing (how many versions of "Always Loved a Film" are there?), unlike say Orbital or the Chemical Bros. (who would never be able to fill a 5 disc set like this) there's so much experimenting and improvising with Underworld and as a result they have this massive backlog of unreleased tunes.
Disc 4 seems to be the one to get. It's a little less exciting since that DAT came out a couple years back that even the band forgot about (!!) that had "Organ" and "Big Meat Show"...what a totally bizarre find that was. So strange for one of those "I found an early version of (classic album) hidden in a basement somewhere" type stories to be true.
― Abstinence Hawk (frogbs), Thursday, 23 October 2014 16:32 (nine years ago) link
Not sure I can justify the 5cd box but does the 2cd version add anything worthwhile?
― djh, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 20:12 (nine years ago) link
(Underworld have been sounding magnificent over the last few days).
the 5CD box is beautiful on its own but I think I liked the Misterons DJ mix of the demos and versions that came out just prior to the reissue more than listening to the bonus material actually in the box.
― brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 22:13 (nine years ago) link
the 2CD version has some great stuff on it that you prob. don't have on cd already, like Eclipse and the 3 demos at the end.
― brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 22:15 (nine years ago) link
5cd version is on spotify iirc
― I am using your worlds, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 22:16 (nine years ago) link
some great moments on the 5cd
― the most painstaking, humorless people in the world (lukas), Wednesday, 20 May 2015 22:36 (nine years ago) link
also i know i'd heard Thing In A Book before and liked it, but now i really _appreciate_ it
― the most painstaking, humorless people in the world (lukas), Wednesday, 20 May 2015 22:37 (nine years ago) link
Finally tracked down the Dark & Long 2 12" with Thing In A Book Mix on Side 2. It is a thing of beauty. http://www.discogs.com/Underworld-Dark-Long-2/release/23459
― brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 23:01 (nine years ago) link
been listening pretty much exclusively to this boxset this week, mostly discs 4 and 5 plus the Cutting Room Floor mix. put all together there are like four totally different 'alternate' versions of this album you could put together.
― frogbs, Thursday, 4 February 2016 19:47 (eight years ago) link
Cutting Room Floor Mix gets listened to way more than any of the bonus discs here.
― brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 4 February 2016 23:29 (eight years ago) link
25 years old today!
― groovypanda, Thursday, 24 January 2019 09:47 (five years ago) link
Thunder, thunder, lightning
― Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Thursday, 24 January 2019 09:57 (five years ago) link
I want to smash it up, I want to break it downI want a wall of tears to wash away
― pomenitul, Thursday, 24 January 2019 10:03 (five years ago) link
still one of the greatest albums ever made
― frogbs, Thursday, 24 January 2019 14:22 (five years ago) link
Absolutely fucking love it. They just don’t make ‘em like they used to.
― Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 24 January 2019 15:49 (five years ago) link
Been listening to it in work this afternoon.
Despite hearing it probably hundreds of times over the last 25 years, I still get goosebumps when Cowgirl kicks off
― groovypanda, Thursday, 24 January 2019 15:56 (five years ago) link
always thought of this as the perfect example of how an album could be so much more than just a collection of songs, so it kinda blew my mind to find out that it really wasn't conceived as such, and that "M.E." and parts of "Skyscraper" actually date back to the Underneath the Radar band!
― frogbs, Thursday, 24 January 2019 16:03 (five years ago) link
Not a let-down exactly but on release I didn't feel the album quite lived up to the releases (Dirty, Human Nature remix, Skyscraper, Rez) and particularly the live shows in the two years leading up to it. I like M.E. a lot but it's obviously a remnant of an earlier era.
― *there's (Noel Emits), Thursday, 24 January 2019 16:14 (five years ago) link
The first disc of 1992-2002 is by far > than this album AFAIC.
― *there's (Noel Emits), Thursday, 24 January 2019 16:18 (five years ago) link
CHANGE MY MIND ;-)
― *there's (Noel Emits), Thursday, 24 January 2019 16:34 (five years ago) link
it is pretty nuts that they had these long incredible tunes like "Spikee", "Minneapolis" and "Why Why Why" just floating around on the backside of an extremely limited 12"
― frogbs, Thursday, 24 January 2019 16:36 (five years ago) link
So your radical opinion is that a compilation of singles and hits is better than a 'debut' album? Why that's some crazy thinking.
― brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 24 January 2019 16:38 (five years ago) link
Imagine preferring something.
Not following your reasoning there, are you suggesting a compilation of singles is by definition better than a 'debut' album or that it doesn't count as a comparison because it's not a fair fight?
― *there's (Noel Emits), Thursday, 24 January 2019 16:48 (five years ago) link
the second disc of 1992-2002 is > the first disc of 1992-2002 so let the jaws drop
― forrest drumpf (Eric H.), Thursday, 24 January 2019 16:50 (five years ago) link
I got wind of them around the time Beaucoup Fish came out and immediately fell in love with Dubnobasswithmyheadman. Having never conceived of them a singles band (although in hindsight I can see why you'd be inclined to think that), I'm at a loss whenever I listen to 1992-2002, as it lacks the necessary filler.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 24 January 2019 16:51 (five years ago) link
Yes, I am saying a compilation of singles is by definition better than a debut album. Well, i'm at least saying it is not surprising that someone would prefer a series of songs that were considered better (thus selected for release and all that entails) than the other songs created during the same era.
I still haven't unsealed my German Box Set release for 92-02. Not sure why, as I think it has the longer version of Dirty and maybe one other track is extended. Anyway, sure, you can have the opinion that the singles compilation is better than the album. I've played Dubno so many times that it's no longer just a collection of tracks, is a holder of two decades worth of memories that get stirred up at various points while the album is playing. I happen to think Oblivion with Bells is their best album, at least it's the one I have listened to the most since it was released. Don't think I have ever actually played the 92-02 compilation straight through. Pretty sure I just downloaded the tracks from the compilation that were slight variants with longer durations and put those in a playlist.
― brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 24 January 2019 17:00 (five years ago) link
not surprising that someone would prefer a series of songs that were considered better (thus selected for release and all that entails) than the other songs created during the same era.
The other songs on the album weren't selected for release?
It's not like that disc is an all-time Greatest Hits; everything on it was released either before the album or on it (and not elsewhere) IIRC.
Of course you get more concentrated bangers, but drawn from the same pwriod and pool of songs. Fair enough if you prefer a rock album model with few boring "deep cuts" thrown in for pacing.
― *there's (Noel Emits), Thursday, 24 January 2019 18:23 (five years ago) link
True, if I had to save just one song from Dubno today, i'd pick River of Bass.
― brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 24 January 2019 18:36 (five years ago) link
I happen to think Oblivion with Bells is their best album
i am very gradually arriving at this opinion too lol
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 January 2019 18:52 (five years ago) link
There's a nice feature on the making of Dubno over on The Quietus from back when it turned 20.
Rick touches on how songs like Surfboy and Tongue were written to help the sequencing of the album
― groovypanda, Friday, 25 January 2019 09:29 (five years ago) link