Hmmm, the image was there for a second. Anyway, it was Pharoah Sanders' "Pharoah" album (aka Harvest Time). It has lovely cover art too.
― matt2, Thursday, 16 October 2008 14:14 (fifteen years ago) link
Okay maybe I made up that "(aka Harvest Time)" part. Anyway, I'll be quiet now.
― matt2, Thursday, 16 October 2008 14:20 (fifteen years ago) link
Except to say that it can be heard here: http://myjazzworld.blogspot.com/2008/10/pharoah-sanders-pharoah.html
Nice, I've never heard this album
― Ich Ber ein Binliner (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 October 2008 14:22 (fifteen years ago) link
hey! this one hasn't been mentioned yet: Van Morrison's Common One! It opens and closes with a Silent Way tribute pretty much. Great album, by the way, maybe one of Van's most underappreciated? Maybe just underappreciated by me -- hadn't heard it til recently. I also heard some of the Necks, and yeah, they are rad too.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 28 October 2008 22:25 (fifteen years ago) link
found a good selection for this thread, purchased on a whim this weekend:
herbie mann - the stone flute
http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm181/karl_ktarn/3-34.jpg
here's a review i found online:
A startlingly original departure from the trademark soul-jazz sound of Herbie Mann, this spacious and atmospheric 1970 recording flows within the vein of Miles Davis' Bitches Brew-era explorations. Throughout the record, Mann's flute floats in and out over sparse string arrangements, a light and airy gust of psychedelic bliss. The album opens with the exotic Eastern sounds of "In Tangier," arranged with unmistakable references to the original version recorded by 60s pop-icon Donovan on Hurdy Gurdy Man. Violins, viola and cello are all used to create a feeling of sailing through the celestial ether in a stoned state of mind. The second track is a rare cover of "Flying," the spaced-out Beatles instrumental from The Magical Mystery Tour, which Mann manages to recreate with an even more hallucinatory vibe. "Miss Free Spirit" is a strongly avant-garde affair, held together by Miroslav Vitous (soon to join Weather Report), who keeps things grooving along with just the right amount of restraint. Vibraphonist Roy Ayers showcases his bold imagination and technical prowess as a forward-thinking jazz player, a talent that would soon be suppressed as his commercial funk persona took over in the 70s. A major highlight is guitarist Sonny Sharrock's solo on "Miss Free Spirit," which makes a strong case for why Miles Davis recruited him to play (albeit uncredited) later that year on the epic Jack Johnson soundtrack. This is a totally unique Herbie Mann record, a must for fans of late 60s and early 70s fusion experiments of the highest caliber.---John Ballon (email)
― M@tt He1ges0n, Sunday, 7 December 2008 17:48 (fifteen years ago) link
The Tortoise thread revive made me go hunt down Jeff Parker's solo records, and they would fit the bill here.
― WmC, Sunday, 7 December 2008 18:20 (fifteen years ago) link
"almost makes up for all those horrid weather report albums dude did...almost."
why hate? they put out some wonderful dreamy stuff. i remember hearing weather report for the first time expecting some bleating prog fusion stuff and i couldn't believe how ambientmellowpretty it was. (long time ago. first album with airto.)
― scott seward, Sunday, 7 December 2008 18:34 (fifteen years ago) link
i just don't like 'em i guess. i have a couple...heavy weather..and something else...
― M@tt He1ges0n, Sunday, 7 December 2008 18:37 (fifteen years ago) link
While admitting that I probably have no idea what I'm talking about, doesn't some Jon Hassell have the same vibe?
― Hideous Lump, Sunday, 7 December 2008 19:09 (fifteen years ago) link
the earlier pre-jaco weather report stuff is different than the later stuff like heavy weather though. i think anyone who digs shorter/zawinul stuff with miles would dig the first WR album and the live in tokyo stuff.
― scott seward, Sunday, 7 December 2008 21:21 (fifteen years ago) link
i think i only have jaco type stuff. the way all the instruments sound on the two i have really bothers me....it gets my inner rockist/jazzist all up in arms.
the zawinul album i was talking about upthread is probably my favorite record i've bought this year so maybe i should check it out.
anyway i don't wanna be a negative nelly and distract peeps from peepin that herbie mann record, it's great!
― M@tt He1ges0n, Sunday, 7 December 2008 21:24 (fifteen years ago) link
have to say thanks again on this thread for the Necks reccs! Eeeyowch, they are incredible.
― tylerw, Monday, 13 April 2009 19:42 (fifteen years ago) link
this album is like son of silent way: maybe a little funkier.
http://www.jazz.com/assets/2008/1/10/albumcoverEddieHenderson-Sunburst.jpg
― m coleman, Monday, 13 April 2009 21:44 (fifteen years ago) link
i think anyone who digs shorter/zawinul stuff with miles would dig the first WR album and the live in tokyo stuff.
― scott seward, Sunday, December 7, 2008 9:21 PM (4 months ago) Bookmark
live in tokyo is a GREAT record
― 69, Monday, 13 April 2009 21:54 (fifteen years ago) link
Why was Sunn 0)))'s "Alice" from their last album (Monoliths & Dimensions) never added to this thread? Anyway, adding it now. ;-)))
― Lostandfound, Saturday, 19 September 2009 02:30 (fourteen years ago) link
In light of this - http://devonrecordclub.wordpress.com/2012/02/12/miles-davis-in-a-silent-way-round-21-nicks-choice/ - I'm thinking I might pursue a few more of these soundalikes.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Sunday, 12 February 2012 10:52 (twelve years ago) link
David Behrman - On the Other Ocean
― bidfurd, Sunday, 12 February 2012 11:48 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGLg_d_0UDE
― doug watson, Sunday, 9 February 2014 16:19 (ten years ago) link
Always thought this was a shameless ripoff:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Xs4ddoxPtc
― Austin, Monday, 10 February 2014 01:45 (ten years ago) link
Post Up Your Mixtapes 2014
― doglato dozzy (dog latin), Monday, 10 February 2014 01:49 (ten years ago) link
garrett list's your own self is giving me a bit of an in a silent way fed through minimalism vibe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtJaLBtbhWs
― cis-het shitlord (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 28 March 2015 16:17 (nine years ago) link
The first two Weather Report albums with Miroslav Vitous on bass definitely fit in the Bitches Brew/In A Silent Way axis points.
There are other tunes later on in Weather Reports records that get into that area too.
― earlnash, Saturday, 28 March 2015 17:15 (nine years ago) link
that garrett list is really hitting the spot. thanks!
― who is dankey kang (Karl Malone), Saturday, 28 March 2015 18:13 (nine years ago) link
^^^ That Garrett List recording is spectacular indeed. Reminds me of Pharoah Sanders' Let Us Go Into The House Of The Lord. Pretty hard to buy though, it seems :(
― Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s), Sunday, 29 March 2015 00:21 (nine years ago) link
this was mentioned upthread but wow this is similar and really good
http://www.jazz.com/assets/2008/2/23/albumcoverJohnAbercrombie-Timeless.jpg?1203727973
― kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 12 April 2016 21:34 (eight years ago) link
Van Morrison's 'When Heart is Open', mentioned by Tyler upthread, is very good:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78-RiXhzz6M
― Austin, Friday, 1 July 2016 04:33 (seven years ago) link
8 years and no mention of Les McCann's Invitation to Openness?! It kind of slips into a Silent Way parody at times but it's a lovely warm listen,
― Sunn O))) Brother Where Art Thou? (Chinaski), Friday, 1 July 2016 07:17 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqYkosktnmg
― EvR, Friday, 1 July 2016 07:24 (seven years ago) link
Mercury rev played Ssh/Peaceful live, not sure how frequently, but it did make it onto Lego My Ego as part of a medley with Very Sleepy Rivers.
― Stevolende, Friday, 1 July 2016 09:25 (seven years ago) link
Thanks for the Paul Schutze recommendation - very much enjoying Apart.
― Sunn O))) Brother Where Art Thou? (Chinaski), Friday, 1 July 2016 14:18 (seven years ago) link
you guys check this one out yet? https://schlarb.bandcamp.com/album/plays-music-for-airports
― tylerw, Friday, 1 July 2016 14:19 (seven years ago) link
I listened just the other day. Hmm. I think I like the first track, but I sort of lost interest (I know this is part of the point). What did you think?I think I prefer the Bang On A Can version.
― Sunn O))) Brother Where Art Thou? (Chinaski), Friday, 1 July 2016 14:24 (seven years ago) link
i thought they pulled it off nicely -- obviously very much "let's do music for airports like in a silent way" but i dig it.
― tylerw, Friday, 1 July 2016 14:25 (seven years ago) link
I'm not super familiar with Music For Airports - own it, rarely listen to it - but that Psychic Temple version is VERY Silent Way. Nice.
― Dan is a #VegetablePuppet, he is NOT REAL. #flatearth (Dan Peterson), Friday, 1 July 2016 16:39 (seven years ago) link
Didn't Eno say his idea of ambient music came from listening to He Loved Him Madly from Get Up With It at semi audible volume as he lay in bed ill?So some echoes of Miles might be likely.
― Stevolende, Friday, 1 July 2016 16:43 (seven years ago) link
It’s early 1975, and Brian Eno strains to hear the recording of 18th century harp music a friend has given him.
Eno is in recovery after being hit by a car and can barely get out of bed. After putting the record on with great difficulty and lying back down, he notices the volume is too low, and that one channel on his stereo is blown.
The sheer pain of moving forces him to listen to the record at a volume that barely eclipses the background sound of the room around it.
― Dan is a #VegetablePuppet, he is NOT REAL. #flatearth (Dan Peterson), Friday, 1 July 2016 17:17 (seven years ago) link
eno talked about he loved him madly in the On Land liners:
When I was in Ghana, for instance, I took with me a stereo microphone and a cassette recorder, ostensibly to record indigenous music and speech patterns. What I sometimes found myself doing instead was sitting out on the patio in the evenings with the microphone placed to pick up the widest possible catchment of ambient sounds from all directions, and listening to the result on my headphones. The effect of this simple technological system was to cluster all the disparate sounds into one aural frame; they became music.
Listening this way, I realised I had been moving towards a music that had this feeling; as the listener, I wanted to be situated inside a large field of loosely-knit sound, rather than placed before a tightly organised monolith (or stereolith, for that matter). I wanted to open out the aural field, to put much of the sound a considerable distance from the listener (even locating some of it “out of earshot”), and to allow the sounds to live their lives separately from one another, clustering occasionally but not “musically” bound together. This gave rise to an interesting technical difficulty. Because recording studio technology and practice developed in relation to performed music, the trend of that development has been towards greater proximity, tighter and more coherent meshing of sounds with one another. Shortly after I returned from Ghana, Robert Quine gave me a copy of Miles Davis’ “He Loved Him Madly”. Teo Macero’s revolutionary production on that piece seemed to me to have the “spacious” quality I was after, and like “Amarcord”, it too became a touchstone to which I returned frequently.
― tylerw, Friday, 1 July 2016 17:26 (seven years ago) link
Always thought Talk Talk's last two albums have a heavy In A Silent Way vibe.
And then there's this... incredible Finnish spiritual jazz from the early 80s.
https://soundcloud.com/arclighteditions/jone-takamaki-trio-bhupala-i-ale003
― Poor.Old.Tired.Horse. (Stew), Friday, 1 July 2016 18:12 (seven years ago) link
was he talking about the fellini movie there or referencing some piece of music I'm unaware of?
― akm, Friday, 1 July 2016 18:15 (seven years ago) link
yeah the fellini film In using the term landscape I am thinking of places, times, climates and the moods that they evoke. And of expanded moments of memory too… One of the inspirations for this record was Fellini’s “Amarcord” (“I Remember”), a presumably unfaithful reconstruction of childhood moments. Watching that film, I imagined an aural counterpart to it, and that became one of the threads woven into the fabric of the music.here's the whole essay: http://rootstrata.com/rootblog/?p=614
― tylerw, Friday, 1 July 2016 18:29 (seven years ago) link
this year's "blackened cities" by melanie de biasio definitely has that sound going on.
― the event dynamics of power asynchrony (rushomancy), Saturday, 2 July 2016 02:48 (seven years ago) link
This thread is livid with great recommendations - cheers for the de Biasio heads up rushomancy, great stuff.
― Sunn O))) Brother Where Art Thou? (Chinaski), Saturday, 2 July 2016 08:45 (seven years ago) link
― Sunn O))) Brother Where Art Thou? (Chinaski), Friday, July 1, 2016 12:17 AM (one year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this rules
― brimstead, Saturday, 21 October 2017 00:47 (six years ago) link
wendell harrison's "an evening with the devil" (1972) definitely belongs here. check the passage that kicks in around 6 minutes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTEVljdZnHY
a lot of don cherry's '70s stuff fits here, too. particularly the passage that begins about 3 minutes into "chenrezig" from the "brown rice" album:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WS8PK53DYGA
and also pretty much the entire terry riley / don cherry collaboration from 1975. cherry's horn comes in at around 3m40s and it is wonderful:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6449e2LsUI
and then also maybe some of that later bill dixon stuff where he's sort of doing this drone thing and there's a lot of reverb.
and the last track on this chico freeman record. starts around 30 minutes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0hESHyPZI0
― budo jeru, Friday, 27 October 2017 04:08 (six years ago) link
several of the tracks on Big Fun remind me of IASW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UT3qeqzejI
― Brad C., Friday, 27 October 2017 12:52 (six years ago) link
Recollections (from the extended version is a reworking of Ssh/Peaceful, innit? Either way, it's a miracle.
― The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 27 October 2017 13:29 (six years ago) link
i stupidly have never checked out Big Fun because I figured it'd be full of the harsh side of things, i'm one of those sad folks who can't really hang with super-out-there 70s miles
― brimstead, Friday, 27 October 2017 15:41 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hL_7b1sf-k
― DPRK Nowitzki (lpz), Friday, 27 October 2017 16:11 (six years ago) link
No, it's exactly the opposite, except for "Go Ahead John." The other tracks are all on the In a Silent Way/Side Two-of-A Tribute to Jack Johnson spectrum. "Ife" is practically ambient dub.
― grawlix (unperson), Friday, 27 October 2017 16:46 (six years ago) link
Yup but I still listen to Miles too, despite the latter's own personal shit
― sawdust lagoon, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 23:34 (two months ago) link
Huh. I didn’t know that. I guess he might be responsible for Van Morrison giving a special thanks to L Ron Hubbard in the liner notes to Inarticulate Speech of the Heart.
― bbq, Thursday, 18 April 2024 01:54 (two months ago) link
i ask this mostly from a place of ignorance because my knowledge of both groups is very superficial-what about some of isotope 217 + chicago underground duo stuff?
(also kinda want a similar discussion for bands/albums/songs that rip bitches brew because have ya'll heard vitamin f by fontanelle? if yer gonna rip something off, that's how it's done!)
― interstellar anthropologist+music philosopher, (Austin), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 02:36 (three weeks ago) link
Vitamin F is great; if you like that, I also recommend checking out Vibration Black Finger's Blackism.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 02:42 (three weeks ago) link
will do ty!
also kind of answering my own question, here's the chicago underground duo doing a sorta sparse miles/gil evans mood-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIlHBjdZsoI"red gradations" (2000)
― interstellar anthropologist+music philosopher, (Austin), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 02:55 (three weeks ago) link
that's great.
― budo jeru, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 15:15 (three weeks ago) link
Not to make it weird, but the 10-piece jazz-adjacent band I lead just released a record from our first pro-studio session, where the keyboard player had access to a nice Rhodes--accordingly, maybe this back half of the 15-min B-side on it where that Fender Rhodes playing is most prominent is the one time we ventured In A Similarly Silent Way? Curious as to what ILMers might think, and if it isn't your bag, then no biggie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0iL6kAol3I
― River Through Howling Ska (Craig D.), Thursday, 23 May 2024 00:43 (three weeks ago) link
(Ah, the timestamp didn't seem to work--Rhodes-prominent Kinda Silent Way section starts at around 7:05)
― River Through Howling Ska (Craig D.), Thursday, 23 May 2024 00:44 (three weeks ago) link
not to make it weird, but this is really excellent music imo
― budo jeru, Thursday, 23 May 2024 16:07 (three weeks ago) link
Cheers! Thank you for typing that--I'd also rec one of the horn players in the band, Brodie West's Eucalyptus for a more properly-pedigree'd actual jazz group (I OTOH am musically illiterate/need to hire a bandmate who is an arranger to make 'real' charts) with half of these same players in it: https://brodiewest.bandcamp.com/track/squiggly-line
Brodie also has a quintet that's less groovy/with more jagged rhythmic edges to it (am trying to keep these specific track selections at least very vaguely Silent-Way-y, sorry for thread derail): https://brodiewest.bandcamp.com/track/fortress
― River Through Howling Ska (Craig D.), Thursday, 23 May 2024 23:52 (three weeks ago) link
craig, does you ilx mail work?
― budo jeru, Friday, 24 May 2024 01:49 (three weeks ago) link
craigfraid at the googlemail should do the trick!
― River Through Howling Ska (Craig D.), Friday, 24 May 2024 02:04 (three weeks ago) link
great thanks!
― budo jeru, Friday, 24 May 2024 02:07 (three weeks ago) link
cosign this is great!
― corrs unplugged, Friday, 24 May 2024 05:08 (three weeks ago) link