Why is classic rock radio the way it is?

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Someone needs to seriously start spiking the punch at those auditorium testings. They sound nightmarish.

Call me old-fashioned (haha, I'm 23 for chrissakes!), but what ever happened to tastemakers? I work part-time in wine retail, and my girlfriend works in a record store -- believe me, people *want* tastemakers. They *appreciate* being guided (not patronized) helpfully by enthusiastic folks who love what they do and what they know. Radio stations lack balls. I realize that they make a ton of money -- or, rather, they make Clear Channel a ton of money -- but that's a ridiculously conservative way to run a business. How is it in any way scientifically sound to play to people in a room a bunch of shit they've already been force-fed their whole lives -- by RADIO nonetheless! Doesn't that strike anyone as odd and sort of viciously circular?

Clarke B., Sunday, 7 December 2003 06:45 (twenty years ago) link

"People still dig 'Do You Feel Like I Do' -- 0.2 points higher than last years average -- let's spin it eleven times a day rather than the current nine, effective tomorrow morning."

Clarke B., Sunday, 7 December 2003 06:47 (twenty years ago) link

haha- I love "Do You Feel Like We Do"! you reminded me of that song = I think I'm gonna fire it up right now (on mp3 where I have it, not lp, mind you). But yes, in all seriousness, of course I take your point.

Broheems (diamond), Sunday, 7 December 2003 06:51 (twenty years ago) link

98.5 WNCX -- Cleveland's Classic Rock, approx 2:30 a.m.

Kashmir
Lunatic Fringe
Already Gone

Does Lunatic Fringe get played anywhere else?

weather!ngda1eson, Sunday, 7 December 2003 07:42 (twenty years ago) link

it's big midwestern song, I don't think it gets played much outside a certain type of classic rocker in the midwest but I'm sure there are exceptions. J.D. Blackfoot (referenced above) is another one. KSHE in St. Louis is big on these; I believe they were the first station to champion Blackfoot. Here are some stories on the KSHE phenomenon:

http://rockclassics.tripod.com/rftartcl.html
http://jdblackfoot.tripod.com/jdarticl.html (blackfoot's page)
http://www.angelfire.com/mo/MUSICSONGS/ksheclassics.html

teeny (teeny), Sunday, 7 December 2003 14:54 (twenty years ago) link

I usually hear the classic rock radio station turned on as background music in places like thrift stores. More than other radio formats, classic rock/oldies/"nostalgia"-oriented stations seem directed at filling background music purposes.

Dogs in the Mist, Sunday, 7 December 2003 16:06 (twenty years ago) link

i thought it's for people listening in cars on their way to/from work

amateur!st (amateurist), Sunday, 7 December 2003 16:12 (twenty years ago) link

You're talking about Tom Cochrane/Red Rider's "Lunatic Fringe"? It's inescapable in Canada, where he's from.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Sunday, 7 December 2003 17:08 (twenty years ago) link

eleven years pass...

What could classic rock radio play more of? I like my local station, but I have heard the O'Jays and Al Green on there, but no Curtis Mayfield, for example. I also never hear Joni Mitchell. You can occasionally hear blues artists, too. What do you think they could play more of, esp. black artists? I noticed they play Talking Heads and The Clash, too.

I'm heavy into this genre right now but sick if the formula so I make my own "classic rock" playlists that I spike with stuff that I feel fits in with the genre.

NO CLOO (I M Losted), Thursday, 26 February 2015 20:52 (nine years ago) link

My local classic rock wouldn't get near O'Jays or Al Green, so consider yourself fortunate. Heads and Clash are a rarity, if at all. When I listen (almost never) it's Zep/Petty/Eagles/Doors/REO/CCR/Seger/Skynyrd 24/7.

Losing swag by the second (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 26 February 2015 21:43 (nine years ago) link

The one in my area is horrendous; there's as much Bon Jovi, Stone Temple Pilots, and hair metal as there is Zep, Aerosmith etc. The only Black artists the station plays are Hendrix, Living Colour (and only "Cult of Personality") and War (and only "Low Rider") (and not very often).

The only point in their favor is the occasional bizarre curveball: Lou Reed's "New Sensations" (heard this a week before he died, so it wasn't a deep-cut tribute) and a Richard Thompson song I couldn't identify.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 26 February 2015 21:49 (nine years ago) link

We have a hard rock station competing with the classic rocker, so that's where the hair metal has gone locally.

Last 4 artists played on classic rock: Queen, Seger, Triumph, Aeorsmith
Hard rock: Black Keys, Soundgarden, Cult, Foo Fighters

Pretty sure our classic rocker doesn't even include "Walk On The Wild Side" let alone "New Sensations."

Losing swag by the second (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 26 February 2015 22:29 (nine years ago) link

I'm in Chicago - we get "Walk on the Wild Side". The Drive is pretty good but I think they could play more black artists instead of post-grunge crap.

NO CLOO (I M Losted), Friday, 27 February 2015 18:25 (nine years ago) link

very weird how stone temple pilots have somehow entered the classic rock radio canon

marcos, Friday, 27 February 2015 18:37 (nine years ago) link

"Lamentations about the state of commercial radio have become so standard over the last few decades that they have achieved something of the rote tedium the critics ascribe to the medium itself: how radio consultants -- led by [Lee Abrams], creator of the album-oriented rock and classic rock formats -- have taught station programmers to slice and dice their playlists to appeal more precisely to specific demographics; how more and more stations have come to play fewer and fewer songs," reported the New York Times in an article entitled "One Way to Get Radio Play: Do It Yourself," published in 2006.

Paradoxically, Abrams was hired by XM satellite radio supposedly because the formats and trends he popularized at FM had resulted in playlists with no innovation or variety.

http://www.dickdestiny.com/blog/2008/03/la-times-company-hires-man-who-ruined.html

curmudgeon, Friday, 27 February 2015 18:43 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I listened to "Court and Spark" today and wondered why classic rock radio doesn't play "Help Me". Surely "Free Man in Paris" would sound great on a classic rock station!

NO CLOO (I M Losted), Monday, 16 March 2015 01:03 (nine years ago) link

Toronto's Q107 does play it.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 16 March 2015 01:35 (nine years ago) link


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