So what is the ILM opinion on Kasabian?

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I think they've got a good sound.
Music seems better and better these days.

thats the problem, it's 'old' music. it's been done. and better

Rizz (Rizz), Friday, 4 March 2005 18:26 (nineteen years ago) link

i enjoy the disc quite a bit, even though i know its been done better before. i'll admit that it probably would have been a better 5 song EP than an entire album, but those 5 songs would be pretty killer.

jonviachicago, Friday, 4 March 2005 18:44 (nineteen years ago) link

They came through Toronto recently, and the press interviews were pathetic ... they kept going on about how they're the best thing ever, and "havin' it" on tour as a rock and roll band, etc. They had the Oasis 1994 Manual memorized.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 4 March 2005 18:45 (nineteen years ago) link

Kasabian sounds more like late-period Roses/Mondays to me. Maybe that's who Regular Fries et al were ripping off (I wouldn't know)...

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 4 March 2005 18:51 (nineteen years ago) link

The return of....

MANSUN!!!! AAAARRRGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!

dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 4 March 2005 19:11 (nineteen years ago) link

Regular fries is a great bandname!

At Risk supported Kasabian in Oxford, Dave says they are nice.

Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Friday, 4 March 2005 19:59 (nineteen years ago) link

The words "suck", "hippo" and "balls" spring to mind. Dreary retrogressive shite with no semblance of a tune, unless you count "Just". Raise your standards.

Ferlin Husky (noodle vague), Friday, 4 March 2005 20:04 (nineteen years ago) link

GAY SHITE, I SAY!

but seriously though, it's really nothing special is it?

Nic de Teardrop (Nicholas), Saturday, 5 March 2005 00:35 (nineteen years ago) link

Kasabian are not bad, have a few good songs, though the album as a whole not that good.
lo-fi allstars: I liked their first album a few years ago, but who can listen this now? terribly boring and long-long songs. half of them would have been enough.

zeus, Saturday, 5 March 2005 09:58 (nineteen years ago) link

Heard a couple of tracks of theirs today, and quite dug'em.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 19 March 2005 08:04 (nineteen years ago) link

shit

jmeister (jmeister), Saturday, 19 March 2005 08:10 (nineteen years ago) link

Rather than listen to some old stuff for the millionth time I played their album the other day and really liked it. The mix of dance and psychedelic rock elements felt organic and cohesive, not as collage-y as lot of things do these days.

But naming your band after one of Charlie Manson's henchwomen = DUD.

lovebug starski (lovebug starski), Saturday, 19 March 2005 12:22 (nineteen years ago) link

I was convinced by mr. seward's voice review to give them a try and i'm glad i did so. rock.

charles, Saturday, 19 March 2005 16:53 (nineteen years ago) link

I know I will play this album fairly often, and return to it.

I was in a debate about buying this one or the Razorlight one.

The raz, I always enjoy seeing them play on TV, but on radio they sound more like Tom Petty.

mark grout (mark grout), Saturday, 19 March 2005 19:16 (nineteen years ago) link

vacuous but arguably more listenable than XTRMNTR

miccio (miccio), Saturday, 19 March 2005 19:37 (nineteen years ago) link

arguably is right

Sven Bastard (blueski), Saturday, 19 March 2005 23:42 (nineteen years ago) link

I still have lots of love for XTRMNTR. I just watched the "Kill All Hippies" video again the other day - so great; the album cover truly come to life.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Saturday, 19 March 2005 23:55 (nineteen years ago) link

I definitely don't like anything on Kasabain as much as I do "Accelerator" or "Shoot Speed/Kill Light"

miccio (miccio), Sunday, 20 March 2005 00:06 (nineteen years ago) link

i prefer supreme love gods

noizem duke (noize duke), Sunday, 20 March 2005 00:12 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
kyuss uk

dave q (listerine), Saturday, 19 August 2006 20:32 (eighteen years ago) link

i think the ILM opinion is that they're shit.

personally, i rather like them. if "empire" isn't in my top 20 songs of the year, i'll be surprised.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Saturday, 19 August 2006 22:30 (eighteen years ago) link

dude, someone claimed they were better than XTRMNTR?

wow.

They're one of those bands with one great song (Cutt Off) and a load of mediocre-to-unlistenable ones. At least they try and do something vaguely original with their SOUND, which evokes the dark, resigned apocalypse of a pulsating nightclub. Shame about the songwriting, though.

Scourage (Haberdager), Saturday, 19 August 2006 22:39 (eighteen years ago) link

apparently they think Keane are "a bunch of students". how fucking cool.

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 19 August 2006 23:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Kasabian vs. Keane roughly equates to Kidderminster Harriers vs. Kettering Town, in my book.

Scourage (Haberdager), Saturday, 19 August 2006 23:25 (eighteen years ago) link

The sound of one mouth yawning.

Pier Paolo Semolina (noodle vague), Saturday, 19 August 2006 23:45 (eighteen years ago) link

"The sound of one youth morning" is actually a particularly apt way to describe Kasabian's music.

Scourage (Haberdager), Saturday, 19 August 2006 23:49 (eighteen years ago) link

i caught a clip of them there on C4's coverage of the V festival. they were as dull as buggery, which surprised me, 'cos the last time i saw footage of them live they appeared to be rocking quite impressively.

still, the crowd appeared to be, as it were, going wild.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Saturday, 19 August 2006 23:51 (eighteen years ago) link

the dark, resigned apocalypse of a pulsating nightclub

Come again?

jimnaseum - formalist rigour! (jimnaseum), Saturday, 19 August 2006 23:54 (eighteen years ago) link

You know when a club night becomes so oppressive and decadent that it honestly does seem like the world is ending, as your senses blur amidst a haze of carnal oblivion?

That is evoked perfectly the sound of Kasabian, and it is their strongest selling-point. Like I said, all they needed was a decent songwriter and a bit of variation and they'd have written a decent first album.

Scourage (Haberdager), Saturday, 19 August 2006 23:59 (eighteen years ago) link

all they needed was a decent songwriter ... and they'd have written a decent first album.

if my aunt had a dick she'd be my uncle.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Sunday, 20 August 2006 00:38 (eighteen years ago) link

I do like "Empire" a lot. I'd like it even more if it had Mark E Smith circa 1985 singing over the instrumental.

Clumsy Colin in ACTION BIKER (coach_mcguirk), Sunday, 20 August 2006 08:30 (eighteen years ago) link

They're weak Sy ripoff crap. Annoyingly a guy I know and like at work likes them and hates Sy, which is fuckin dumb

A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Sunday, 20 August 2006 09:23 (eighteen years ago) link

To be fair they have got one good tune. It's "Just".

Pier Paolo Semolina (noodle vague), Sunday, 20 August 2006 09:51 (eighteen years ago) link

some of the stuff on the kasabian self-titled is pretty, but it's an album that's 10 years too late

Charlie Howard (the sphinx), Sunday, 20 August 2006 10:30 (eighteen years ago) link

i haven't heard the record - but they have an excruciatingly boring live show, I'll say that much

Stephen Bush (Stephen B.), Sunday, 20 August 2006 10:57 (eighteen years ago) link

I can imagine. As I keep saying, the record stands out for its production alone, and in a live setting this is of course mostly removed.

Scourage (Haberdager), Sunday, 20 August 2006 10:59 (eighteen years ago) link

I really like the fuzz bass sound in their new single and hate myself for it.

leigh (leigh), Monday, 21 August 2006 10:54 (eighteen years ago) link

So what? is the ILM opinion on Kasabian.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 21 August 2006 10:59 (eighteen years ago) link

lol indie amirite is the ILM opinion on Kasabian.

Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Monday, 21 August 2006 11:00 (eighteen years ago) link

i got the album yesterday. fucker took three goes to rip. i am genuinely looking forward to hearing it. mind you, i liked the last primal scream album too.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 21 August 2006 11:21 (eighteen years ago) link

I thought you'd have been listening to this

http://img.tesco.com/pi/entertainment/CD/MF/697950_CD_M_F.jpg

Onimo (GerryNemo), Monday, 21 August 2006 11:24 (eighteen years ago) link

How have we gotten this far down the thread without mentioning PRIMAL SCREAM?


(oops, xxpost)

wogan lenin (dog latin), Monday, 21 August 2006 11:27 (eighteen years ago) link

oh no, XTRMNTR's been mentioned a few times.

I guess if this kind of thing hadn't been done already by PRML SCRM, The Coral, The Beta Band, Lo-Fi Allstars, and a plethora of others throughout the late 90s then I'd think they were good. It's just frustrating that out of all the NME bunch of bands that are out there, they happen to be the most inventive (apart from maybe the Rakes who are just ridiculous in a funny way).

wogan lenin (dog latin), Monday, 21 August 2006 11:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Lager rock round 45

Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Monday, 21 August 2006 12:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Wow, I've never heard them before, but Playlouder's review is fucking brutal:

http://playlouder.co.uk/review/+empire/

Simon H. (Simon H.), Monday, 21 August 2006 13:22 (eighteen years ago) link

lol playlouder amirite?

seriously, jesus wept.

Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Monday, 21 August 2006 13:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Playlouder's OTM percentage is disappointing, so I'd take what they say with a pinch of salt.

Scourage (Haberdager), Monday, 21 August 2006 13:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Generally, though not always, I agree with PL's reviews and I find their lack of pretension a little refreshing.

Simon H. (Simon H.), Monday, 21 August 2006 13:29 (eighteen years ago) link

they can't write. that reviewer should have his fingers smashed.

Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Monday, 21 August 2006 13:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Generally, though not always, I agree with PL's reviews and I find their lack of pretensionsub-Daniel Booth hackery a little refreshing.

Fixed.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 21 August 2006 13:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Tom Meighan is stepping down from Kasabian by mutual consent. Tom has struggled with personal issues that have affected his behaviour for quite some time and now wants to concentrate all his energies on getting his life back on track. We will not be commenting further.

— KasabianHQ (@KasabianHQ) July 6, 2020

no replies allowed for some reason

PaulTMA, Monday, 6 July 2020 12:17 (four years ago) link

a. drugs / alcohol / rehab
b. he's done something really bad which will be in the papers tomorrow
c. crisis in personal life has led to realisation he is squandering his vast artistic talent being that guy with the hat in kasabian
d. don't care, it's kasabian

Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 6 July 2020 12:31 (four years ago) link

Tried to come up with a joke for this earlier, couldn't be arsed

Committee of Public Scampi (Noodle Vague), Monday, 6 July 2020 12:46 (four years ago) link

e. voted for Keir Starmer in the Labour leadership election.

The Fields o' Fat Henry (Tom D.), Monday, 6 July 2020 12:52 (four years ago) link

sorry, just realised he isnt the one with the hat

Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 6 July 2020 13:07 (four years ago) link

he's the one with the haircut

Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 6 July 2020 13:07 (four years ago) link

please adjust the above accordingly

Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 6 July 2020 13:08 (four years ago) link

He's one of those singers you occasionally get in bands who doesn't write any songs and so is going to have a completely hopeless and pointless solo career.

The Fields o' Fat Henry (Tom D.), Monday, 6 July 2020 13:11 (four years ago) link

If you feel completely indifferent and incurious towards this incredibly interesting bit of brit-pop news does it mean you've got the Rona?

calzino, Monday, 6 July 2020 13:23 (four years ago) link

shoot the rona

doorstep jetski (dog latin), Monday, 6 July 2020 13:31 (four years ago) link

replace him with Tom Moore imo

boxedjoy, Monday, 6 July 2020 14:21 (four years ago) link

I won't link to it but Daily Mail reporting he's due in court today - domestic assault.

PaulTMA, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 01:09 (four years ago) link

WOOO-UH-UH-OOOOH OOOOOH WOAH-WO-OHHHHHH

Committee of Public Scampi (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 10:42 (four years ago) link

Much like with Samson, the loss of a trendy haircut has cut his cocky swagger by 98%, well that and being a belligerent indie cunt.

Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 10:57 (four years ago) link

Meighan later wrote on Twitter: “Following today’s announcement I just wanted to let you all know that I am doing well. I’m in a really good place now. Thanks for all your love and support. I’ll be seeing you all very soon.”

what the actual fuck at this 'statement'

Scampidocio (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 11:00 (four years ago) link

Nice of him to tweet yesterday to let his fans know he's doing fine, hope he'll be right as rain as soon as we know it xxx

PaulTMA, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 11:01 (four years ago) link

Live to fight another day. Get well soon Tom 🦊💙

— Craig McInnes (@Sycophant__) July 6, 2020

Aged well 👌

— YaBuncha (@YasBiggestKunt) July 7, 2020

Scampidocio (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 11:03 (four years ago) link

https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/281f5a979541e095c134ea9b93ae719115fa09d5/103_425_1887_1131/master/1887.jpg?width=620&quality=45&auto=format&fit=max&dpr=2&s=bede5e9e27c65db6d4b70adf07c34d64

He looks like he's being hauled up in front of Parliament to explain his tech startup's serious misuse of personal data.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 11:28 (four years ago) link

His solicitor advised him to come to court as Hugh Laurie.

The Fields o' Fat Henry (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 11:34 (four years ago) link

Exactly what I thought!

Scampidocio (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 11:46 (four years ago) link

more like Dominik Diamond tbh

Committee of Public Scampi (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 11:48 (four years ago) link

yesssss! i am eenveeeencible!

imago, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 12:00 (four years ago) link

If he listened to his girlfriend instead of hitting her he might have found out that those Lennon specs make him look like he's wearing a halloween costume of an Edwardian bank clerk

Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 12:44 (four years ago) link

they're a bit rees moggish

Boris the Spreader (NickB), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 12:47 (four years ago) link

They're a bit like what a stupid person would wear to make themselves seem thoughtful and intelligent.

The Fields o' Fat Henry (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 12:50 (four years ago) link

I wonder if he will still feel like a rock n roll renegade when he's picking litter in the park with a vizvest on for 200 hours

calzino, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 12:52 (four years ago) link

'oh shit i'm in court in 20 minutes, where's that cheapo harry potter halloween costume i bought eight years ago'

scampo, foggy and clegg (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 12:52 (four years ago) link

At least his court appearance isn't offensively awful like Tupac and Harvey Weinstein suddenly appearing to have physical mobility challenges.

beamish13, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 14:45 (four years ago) link

He walked out of court a free man w/ 200 unpaid hours of work to do smdh

Scampidocio (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 14:49 (four years ago) link

(xp) I'm pretty sure he'd not only be laughed out of court but laughed to and from court if he'd tried that at Leicester Crown Court on a cloudy Tuesday.

The Fields o' Fat Henry (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 15:02 (four years ago) link

I had a dream last night that my friend's mom was showing me a notebook she'd filled wihth doodles and jokes. One of the jokes was labled "SLAYER vs. Kasabian:" and next to that it was simply repeated as "SLAYER vs. Kasyaaaawn----" and after the "yawn" her handwriting trailed off into a squiggly line as though she had fallen asleep.

Deflatormouse, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 22:07 (four years ago) link

it occurs to me that one of their "hits" is seemingly an over-refreshed version of "kokomo"

massaman gai (front tea for two), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 07:44 (four years ago) link

three years pass...

Kasabian, Van Houten... no Krenwinkel or Beausoleil yet?

https://www.babystepmagazine.com/single-post/leeds-shoegazers-van-houten-return-with-coming-of-age

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 February 2024 07:31 (nine months ago) link

Kasabian, Van Houten...
Krenwinkel or Beausoleil


Babe I wanta stab ya

B. Amato (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 8 February 2024 09:39 (nine months ago) link

beausoleil makes his own music

Animal Bitrate (Raw Patrick), Thursday, 8 February 2024 09:45 (nine months ago) link

There was also...

https://www.discogs.com/artist/30515-Sadie-Glutz

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 February 2024 09:46 (nine months ago) link

(xp) As Bobby Beausoleil, I can definitely imagine some band from Derbyshire or somewhere calling themselves Beausoleil.

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 February 2024 09:48 (nine months ago) link

maybe they're named after Milhouse

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 8 February 2024 10:34 (nine months ago) link

naming bands after disgusting hippy dullards who were gullible enough to be brainwashed by a horrible little white supremacist midget is not cool imo. It's probably Tarantino's fault this is still happening.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 8 February 2024 10:54 (nine months ago) link


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