the term 'boogie' as referring to early 80s post-disco R&B, C or D

well yeah, there are better disco songs out there. that doesn't mean that those two songs aren't enjoyable...

"well yeah, there are better disco songs out there. that doesn't mean that those two songs aren't enjoyable...

-- The Brainwasher"

it's like saying your two favorite hiphop songs of all time are "u can't touch this" and "ice ice baby". those might be enjoyable to some people, but they still suck.

uh.. okay.

Please define corny. How is it more or less corny then Sylvester's many fantastic tracks?

i no longer care.

You should give it another shot. Just one more time, real loud. Maybe you'll finally come around.

Also, please explain why "corny" and "cheesy" are bad things (especially in disco, which was partially great because it was brave enough not to leave stuff that people with sticks up their asses dismissed as "corny" and "cheesy" out.) (I hate to ask what you guys think of Disco Tex & the Sex-O-Lettes and Boney M, but I guess I just did. So go for it.)

I'm perfectly fine with "Car Wash" and "More More More" and think "Mighty Real" is titanically great, but how anyone can stomach "Shake Your Booty" is beyond me. (Which isn't to say KC didn't have a good one in him: "I'm Your Boogie Man.")

KC is just some of the worst shit i have ever heard. silver convention too. i dont see how that sylvester and RR joint are any less corny though. there are literally SO MANY better disco songs out there. and to whomever mentioned P&P, i dont care for most of their records either. i tend to think pat adams is crazily overrated. leroy burgess too. they had some things i like, but they too were painfully corny.

Jesus, maybe you ARE trolling in the wrong genre.

On my pandora station right now: KC And the Sunshine Band, "Keep It Comin' Love." What do you know, sounds as perfect as it always has.

You wacky KC haters really need to get a clue, so:

Chic/KC = Zep/Sab. "Get Down Tonight" is a call to riot in the streets.
-- dave q, Friday, October 22, 2004 1:24 PM

Say Anything About KC & The Sunshine Band

TS: Chic vs. KC and the Sunshine Band

I don't really care much for either of the KC songs on that comp, but I will defend "Keep It Comin' Love" to the death.

the first kc album is fucking great.

i can't imagine anyone not liking the sound of sunshine album.

We can all agree that Diana Ross's "Love Hangover" is better than almost any other disco record ever made, pop or underground, right?

xp "Queen Of Clubs" (from '74) rules. They were an excellent band, and they helped invent disco (first single came out in 1973), when you get down (tonight) to it. (And so did Silver Convention whose first few albums -- especially Madhouse, which is really fucking weird, and Love in a Sleeper -- are great, too. And not in a "so bad they're good" way. They're just great, period.) (If you count George McCrae and Penny McLean, both KC + SC had side projects who made great records, too.)

yeah i really loved kc and the sunshine band until pipecock broke it to me that they were both 'cheesy' and 'corny'

two of the most overused-as-pejorative terms on ilx really

a little cheese and corn doesn't bite

still kinda curious what Display Name was getting at in this thread

rev are you much of a dancer

― deej, Sunday, July 1, 2007 12:11 PM Bookmark

Tangentially speaking, it's interesting how Wild Cherry in "Play That Funky Music" use the term "boogie" to mean white music that is comparatively not funky.

Still don't like KC, but I'd rather like KC than not like P&P.

Wasn't this more of a late 70s thing than an early 80s thing?
I mean stuff like "Yes Sir I Can Boogie" and "Boogie Oogie Oogie" was all made in the 70s.

As for the disco-ish material from the early 80s, I have heard some refer to "80s soul weekender" as typical name to use for compilations etc, but I otherwise haven't quite managed to hear a proper musical genre label on the kind of post-disco, pre-new- jack-swing/Hi-NRG dance music that was popular in the first half of 80s. I mean, like Shalamar, Imagination, D-Train, late period Kool & The Gang, early SOS Band and virtually anything Quincy Jones produced from 1979 until 82-83. What would be the best term to describe that?

I'm sure the answer will seem obvious once I hear it, but who, or what, is "P&P"?

Anyway, I still think "boogie" is a really lazy name for the '80s post-disco r&b stuff. Is that really the best name they could come up with in retrospect, especially when apparently nobody called the music that when it actually existed?

"I know, let's pick a name that nobody will confuse with '40s boogie-woogie, '50s country boogie, '60s Latin boogaloo, '70s boogie rock, and 25 percent of hit '70s disco song titles that have absolutely nothing to do with the music we're talking about." "Okay, how about 'boogie'?? That'll work."

I have sometimes hear it described as "jazz funk", but really, when I hear the term "Jazz funk", I am more likely to think of Herbie Hancock, Weather Report or maybe Level 42, than I am to think of Imagination or Shalamar.

"Yes Sir I Can Boogie" and "Boogie Oogie Oogie"

Neither of these songs are boogie, as the term is being used here.

I'm sure the answer will seem obvious once I hear it, but who, or what, is "P&P"?

http://www.discogs.com/label/P&P+Records

rev are you much of a dancer

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but u knew exactly what i was getting at!

xhuxk thats pretty much what i was wondering in starting this thread

oh boogie of course!

boogers

for the record I can outdance anybody on this message board w/o breaking a sweat trick yahhh

fwiw im pretty sure i was responding to u saying u couldnt dance to chic

I didn't say that. I said that there were a lot of things I'd rather dance to. Tbh, at the time of that thread I wasn't particularly used to dancing to 4x4-based music and found it awkward because I'd try to dance to it like I'd dance to a funk or hip-hop record. I'm all fine w/ Chic now.

Anyway, I still think "boogie" is a really lazy name for the '80s post-disco r&b stuff. Is that really the best name they could come up with in retrospect, especially when apparently nobody called the music that when it actually existed?

"I know, let's pick a name that nobody will confuse with '40s boogie-woogie, '50s country boogie, '60s Latin boogaloo, '70s boogie rock, and 25 percent of hit '70s disco song titles that have absolutely nothing to do with the music we're talking about." "Okay, how about 'boogie'?? That'll work."

thank goodness this lazy retrospect aspect has kept us from other confusing names like "garage" or "funky house"

People called garage and funky house by those names while those musics were being made.

no, I'm pretty sure that it only happens in lazy retrospect

i think we'd all be better off if we could agree, right here and now, to call this stuff "disco donk."

http://www.comicgenius.com/DISCOFEVER/disco_profiles/rick_dees/images/disco_duck_album_cover.jpg

funnily enough, i just came across that record (slightly rain-wet) in a box at the treptower flea market yesterday. i didn't buy it, but i DID score a $.50 copy of Georgia Gibbs' "The Hula Hoop Song" ("Die erste Original-Aufnahme des Schlagers!") b/w "Keep in Touch," plus a couple of children's flexi-discs from the DaDeWe department store.

Here's the AWESOME cover:
https://www.vinyl.de/bilder/20091169845_33789512_MVC-348S.JPG

attention, artists: more covers like that, please.

this mix full of obscure stuff has some clunkers but also gold, like Bohannon's "wake up"

listening to a lot of this kind of stuff lately. i played some unidisc "prelude's greatest hits" cds in the car but they were mastered like shit, so i'll probably be sellin em.

THIS LABEL looks like the shit; anybody heard any of these comps?

Boogie Times is as hit or miss as any other boogie themed compilation series, I've found.

sorry Surmounter, I'm just trying to fill up the um...stuff here

can't stop listening to these ron trent prescription radio mixes...

http://www.prescriptionworld.org/mixes/prradio_rontrent.mp3
http://www.prescriptionworld.org/mixes/pr2.mp3

i am in a hipster-esque cafe that is playing all forgotten pop/r&b from the '80s: rufus, junior, eddy grant. weird!

not that i mind! i don't think i've ever heard a whole eddy grant LP!

eddy grant's got a pretty amazing career filled with awesome jams!

retrospective genre naming - c/d.

perfectly useful.