Let's talk about the new Streets album A GRAND DON'T COME FOR FREE.

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Yeah, that's all I meant, though the drugs bit is maybe kind of key.

I'm finding that if you get bored with re-hearing the story, it's quite easy to zone out of the threaded episodic lyrics and enjoy the music.

N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 16:47 (twenty years ago) link

yeah, I find that really easy since I never listen to lyrics anyway.

cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 16:57 (twenty years ago) link

Why is it The Streets cause excitement/polarization in everyone except for me?

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 17:53 (twenty years ago) link

YOU ARE THE CHOSEN ONE

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 17:54 (twenty years ago) link

THE ONE WHO WILL BRING BALANCE TO THE GEEZERSTHETICS

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 17:55 (twenty years ago) link

that birthmark on your ass was the giveaway

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 17:55 (twenty years ago) link

Why is it The Streets cause excitement/polarization in everyone except for me?

Sir, you're not alone (again).

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 17:56 (twenty years ago) link

Cuz yer Yanks.

Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 18:01 (twenty years ago) link

Yes yes yes I know Jess & Matos and several thousand others disprove this.

Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 18:01 (twenty years ago) link

Not disprove that you're American, obv.

Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 18:01 (twenty years ago) link

DAMMIT I Wanted to be from Burkina Faso!

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 18:02 (twenty years ago) link

Q sells a reader a pup (from Amazon):

Reviewer: col from Cumbria, UK

This is absolutely shocking. First off I need to say I haven't heard the first Streets album, so this review is aimed at those similarly unfamiliar with this band/person/travesty.
Put simply - this is some of the most annoying music I have ever heard in my life. After a great write-up in Q magazine I was intrigued enough to give it a listen. OMG - It's like Ali G trying to get in touch with his sensitive side. Everything from the inane lyrics delivered in a 'Staines massive' accent to the teeth grindingly repetitive drum-beats made me want to break things.
Maybe I just don't 'get' this type of music, and I'm certain this album wasn't aimed at people with my particular tastes. Nevertheless, if this is urban music I'm pleased I live in the country.


N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 18:08 (twenty years ago) link

a very big house in the countryyyyy

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 18:14 (twenty years ago) link

I thought Burkina Faso was a kind of sexy Muslim dress?

Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 18:17 (twenty years ago) link

Cuz yer Yanks.
-- Sick Nouthall

Well, at least we've got Kid Rock.

Mark (MarkR), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 18:26 (twenty years ago) link

"This review is aimed at those similarly unfamiliar with this band/person/travesty" is still cracking me up.

N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 18:26 (twenty years ago) link

I will admit that "Weak Become Heroes" and "Don't Mug Yourself" have stuck with me and I do like them, but other than that I can't even remember how the rest of the album went.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 18:28 (twenty years ago) link

I'm afraid I haven't bought it.

jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 18:34 (twenty years ago) link

No need to be afraid.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 19:26 (twenty years ago) link

am i the only one wondering if "i wouldn't have it any other way" isn't actually about mikey's girl?

mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 19:39 (twenty years ago) link

It's about ice cream.

N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 19:50 (twenty years ago) link

oh.

mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 19:52 (twenty years ago) link

Just listened to it again. Unsurprisingly it's the faster, less sentimental songs which are holding up best - "Not Addicted", "Such A Twat" and "Get Out Of My House" especially (seriously, it's hard not to root for Simone at that point, the Skinner character is a fucking irritating narrator). "It Was Supposed To Be So Easy" is the worst way possible to start the album off because it is abysmal.

I think most of the songs have a few lines which I love, and a few which make me cringe.

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 19:53 (twenty years ago) link

I'd see no problem at all with artists doing narrative albums, if *done well*. Why should there be strict divides between literature and music, say?

"Blinded by the Lights" and "Dry Your Eyes" are possibly my favourites, along with the current single, but that's hardly the point with such an interlinked piece.

Tom May (Tom May), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 20:17 (twenty years ago) link

I don't think books should all tell stories, either.

N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 20:18 (twenty years ago) link

The singing in 'Dry Your Eyes' reminds me a little of Robert Wyatt

Andrew L (Andrew L), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 20:21 (twenty years ago) link

Grand = OPM - fun - beats - things i liked about OPM

I should probably listen a little more, maybe.

Rollie Pemberton (Rollie Pemberton), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 21:26 (twenty years ago) link

I'd be surprised if there wasn't something you could get out of it, Rollie.

Yes, Andrew, it is beautifully uncharaceristic singing, presumably from Skinner himself (?). Not far from Wyatt, perhaps; similarly plaintive and higher-register.

And Nick, exactly. :) Literature can have all sorts of uses, and even novels too. I don't see why, in the right hands, that application of literary modes into the sequence of an album would not work. Kate Bush's "Hounds of Love" is another that comes to mind with at least its second side forming at least oblique narrative.

Tom May (Tom May), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 01:45 (twenty years ago) link

Aite here's my verdict.

It is very, very good. I enjoy it a lot. Overall, it is a remarkable album. On a song-by-song basis, it doesn't stack up w/ OPM but its not meant to; its sort of like Skinner making this album OK for rockists, as someone else said, and that's not a bad thing.

My only criticisms...urm there are too many plot-forwarding tracks that are worth v. little musically. The cell-phone conversation song is so boring and unneccessary, like the musical equivelent of "...the story so far!" blah. And I still maintain that the last track is a tad too saccharine. But yeah, really good album...8/10.

By the way, what I really like about it is that he GETS hip-hop narrative (which is probably where the hip-hop influence comes in) in that he speaks about stuff as he would talk to a friend, converstaionally, rather than in the all-knowing narrator that other music utilizes.

bling bling!!!!1!!

djdee2005, Wednesday, 12 May 2004 04:18 (twenty years ago) link

'Could Be Well In' is better than anything on OPM... it just really captures something, and the piano loop is lovely.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 08:48 (twenty years ago) link

you are insane

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 08:50 (twenty years ago) link

Then again I never really saw what was so amazing about Weak Become Heroes or, especially, Let's Push Things Forward that puts them above anything on here. The production on Blinded By The Lights is spot-on, that big trancey whooosh and the more urgent house line that comes in just as the pill is meant to be kicking in...

I totally hear the grime influence, on the more jittery, less melodic tracks - Not Addicted, Such A Twat, Get Out Of My House in particular.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 08:56 (twenty years ago) link

Also Blinded By The Lights is the nasty, unpleasant, introverted cousin to Weak Become Heroes, its not meant to recapture that lush feel, its meant to turn it inside out. Its the bit on which the story hinges as well - Mike's too out of it to really pay attention to the fact that Simone and Dan are copping off in the club.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 08:58 (twenty years ago) link

"Could Well Be In" is the most beautiful song ever to feature a Brummie accent. Skinner=God.

I'm sorry, but he does.

noodle vague (noodle vague), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 09:02 (twenty years ago) link

I had the misfortune to tune into part of Front Row on Radio 4 yesterday evening. Cue down-with-the-kids David Hepworth to talk about the history of the concept album in ROCK.

Precis:
DH: Well this Streets chappie's new album dares to tell a story. It's the only rock opera which starts in Blockbuster and hinges around a cashpoint.
Plays: "So I failed on the DVD/Couldn't withdraw any money"
Quick fadeout
DH: That's all I can take of his delivery (cue interminable monologue about the dark side of tommy)

Remember, kids, this is what we're all up against.

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 12 May 2004 09:16 (twenty years ago) link

Oh good lord.

Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 09:17 (twenty years ago) link

I can understand - a lot of otherwise sympathetic listeners are going to find the first track unlistenable. It's not the delivery, though.

edward o (edwardo), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 12:00 (twenty years ago) link

no it is david hepworth and every other fortysomething sub-hornby executive drivetime plonker who imagines that the streets are ROCK!

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 12 May 2004 12:10 (twenty years ago) link

"So I failed on the DVD/Couldn't withdraw any money" - this is the line most in need of a packet of Lockets on the whole album.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 12:28 (twenty years ago) link

it is the song most in need of the song which was originally going to precede it which explains why he needed to draw out 50 squid in addition to his thousand pounds of savings. although perhaps not. it's a great opener. the opening line reminds me of max bygraves.

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 12 May 2004 12:41 (twenty years ago) link

I'm a little disappointed there's no copping off with Simone for the first time track in between Blinded By The Lights and Wouldn't Have It Any Other Way.

He needs all that money to fund the gambling habit he doesn't have, I'd assumed.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 12:43 (twenty years ago) link

He never actually went out with Simone. He was just stalking her, which is why she's so angry on Get Out Of My House.

N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 12:44 (twenty years ago) link

There's speaks the voice of an experienced stalker.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 12:45 (twenty years ago) link

it was to buy a car at an auction - £1,050 - which is why he had to "get the savings and hurry." but the song explaining that was taken off the album.

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 12 May 2004 12:47 (twenty years ago) link

all the missing bits of the story will be added back in during the spoken act bits of the stage show, and with B sides and that. the use of OPM tracks to add background colour to the stage show, and the opening "busy street" scene with a mash of the various highlight tunes is the really clever bit.

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 12:48 (twenty years ago) link

in my day we called that bit an "overture."

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 12 May 2004 12:50 (twenty years ago) link

I thought it was a scooter.

N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 12:51 (twenty years ago) link

i'd like to hear scooter covering dry your eyes!

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 12 May 2004 12:52 (twenty years ago) link

It's not better than OPM, but I fucking love it now. It all clicked when I heard it late night, after trolling around downtown. Seriously, the way things are connected from song to song is really clever and in some cases, the songs work without the whole album. Surely, Mike went for concept over straight songs and it worked.

The beat on "I Was Supposed To Be So Easy" is hard as fuck.

And I think this record is best for it's lighter, sweeter, more ambient moments. "Empty Cans" could end up being one of my favorites of the year.

DJDee and Rollie = championing rap-esque arrangements 4ever

Rollie Pemberton (Rollie Pemberton), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 20:09 (twenty years ago) link

i'd like to hear scooter covering dry your eyes!

HOW MUCH IS THE FISH IN THE SEA?!

JoB (JoB), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 22:03 (twenty years ago) link


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