this is probably old stuff for you guyz cuz yer all so hip but just in case:
http://maddecent.com/blog/2010/01/11/gucci-mane-diplo-presents-free-gucci-best-of-the-cold-war-mixtapes/
― scott seward, Monday, 11 January 2010 20:06 (fourteen years ago) link
i think one of the problems with this new diplo tape (and diplo in general) is that although it contains tracks by artists who i don't hate (and who in some cases i actually like), it makes the mistake of assuming that because ppl like both these artists on a separate level, they will gel and fit together to produce a product equal to, or greater than the sum of their parts. but this never ever happens.
― ianmaxwell, Monday, 11 January 2010 20:06 (fourteen years ago) link
but of course. lotsa people will love it.
― ianmaxwell, Monday, 11 January 2010 20:08 (fourteen years ago) link
fairly certain i wont like this
― not a playa but i ilx a lot (deej), Monday, 11 January 2010 20:14 (fourteen years ago) link
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/13793-the-burrprint-the-movie-3-d-the-state-vs-radric-davis/― samosa gibreelgood review.― not a playa but i ilx a lot (deej)
― samosa gibreel
good review.
― not a playa but i ilx a lot (deej)
Not bad, he's decent on it being a tough sell 'til it gives up its pleasures and what those pleasures are. would nitpick about
And with Gucci, there's also a sense of shared experience. People are listening to this guy; he's not just another voice in the internet echo chamber.
This idea smacks more of the rap writers echo chamber. "internet" rappers with 100,000 downloads are also a shared experience. Also no one i've read has done a really good job explaining why this merits a paragraph. this ties into considerations of matt's "old or new music" question that got bumped recently. also XXL or film columns publishing first week numbers, like who gives a fuck and why exactly? how important is it that the music become part of the pop culture, besides being easier to sell pieces on it?
He's found his audience by elevating ignorance to expertly absurdist art
gonna come out and call this flat out wrong, or at least not as true as saying like rapreviews did that he's built his buzz post-"So Icey" by killing guys and beating the case/beefing with jeezy.
Of course, the album came out when Gucci was back in prison and sold way fewer copies than expected.
it's dishonest to connect these.
Gucci's detractors took the opportunity to declare his regional stardom a grand illusion. Those detractors should [not detract but realize he's dope
a point nothing to do with the shared experience point these particular detractors are attempting to weaken, the one already he gave a graf to.
also think he rated the album about ten per cent too highly. that, like me, he doesn't dig "the run of mid-album R&B tracks" i think shows grading on a curve and what a low bar we have for the rap album format these days.
― zvookster, Monday, 11 January 2010 21:07 (fourteen years ago) link
i always thought deej was of the anti-"so the joke is this guy's retarded, right?" brigade
― ke$nan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 11 January 2010 21:10 (fourteen years ago) link
hes a gangster rapper of course hes promoting 'ignorance' at some level
― not a playa but i ilx a lot (deej), Monday, 11 January 2010 21:12 (fourteen years ago) link
i mean his hit single is called 'wasted' -- i think ppl just make a whole bunch of assumptions about what 'ignorance' actually means.
i think the question of popularity is absolutely relevent to the discussion of an album, & a discussion about where a record's place is in the grand scheme of things
― not a playa but i ilx a lot (deej), Monday, 11 January 2010 21:13 (fourteen years ago) link
thats bullshit, his beef w/ jeezy & the murder case were in what, '05?? & his buzz only really started growing in mid-late 07, only really seemed noticeable a year after that.
this is the problem of living w/out regulated measurements of sales though, right? his detractors are wrong, gucci's music has resonated w/ huge numbers of rap fans.
if you read his blog he actually does like the R&B tracks aside from spotlight, he just doesnt like their sequencing & how it slows down the record in the middle.
― not a playa but i ilx a lot (deej), Monday, 11 January 2010 21:18 (fourteen years ago) link
fucking brand nubian promoted 'ignorance' too, the problem is w/ ppl confusing style with substantive ideas -- gucci's style embraces 'uneducated' slang-y street dialect but that doesnt mean hes an ignorant person or that his ideas are any worse than lord jamars, which is kind of tom's point in bringing up 'worst enemy'
― not a playa but i ilx a lot (deej), Monday, 11 January 2010 21:22 (fourteen years ago) link
of course i also think the idea that records are any more/less consistent now than they were back when is a total fallacy
― not a playa but i ilx a lot (deej), Monday, 11 January 2010 21:27 (fourteen years ago) link
it's called "the best of the cold war mixtapes" but like half of it is from burrprint 3d and "photo shoot" is on it
― i want more SBs, lots of SBs (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Monday, 11 January 2010 21:29 (fourteen years ago) link
rap reviews get systematically lower scores on pitchfork compared to other genres. it's a brilliantly produced album by one of the most exciting rappers around, with some questionable pacing and a dogshit lead single. i am sure there are billion of non-rap albums with imperfect pacing and a couple dud tracks that have scored at least ten per-cent higher than 8.0. the album's a pleasure to listen to, i think that counts for a lot.
― samosa gibreel, Monday, 11 January 2010 21:39 (fourteen years ago) link
i'm put you in the papaaaaaaaaaaaaa
― ENN-Bomb (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 11 January 2010 21:46 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah i just threw my personal opinion re rating in there as an aside to a nitpick, i wouldn't make too much out of a person's exact tally of their reaction unless there's some huge gulf.
― zvookster, Monday, 11 January 2010 21:55 (fourteen years ago) link
not a lot wrong with what deej says in isolation, but not really responses to what i said.
― zvookster, Monday, 11 January 2010 21:59 (fourteen years ago) link
lol..."free gucci mane. free boosie. keep lil wayne outta jail." also if anyone can tell me anything about the 25 different companies he shouts out at the end that would be nice
woulda liked to hear him flip the hook
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=en2kNJfWBLs
― i want more SBs, lots of SBs (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 03:31 (fourteen years ago) link
he kinda glazes over it. good though
― i want more SBs, lots of SBs (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 03:32 (fourteen years ago) link
he basically recreates gucci's flow and verse from this song
― i want more SBs, lots of SBs (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 03:33 (fourteen years ago) link
http://1.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kw79twH8831qzw3gpo1_500.png
― Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 14 January 2010 10:47 (fourteen years ago) link
loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool damn witches
― Body Butter (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 14 January 2010 11:12 (fourteen years ago) link
i liked tom's review(s) a lot
― total eclipse of the shart (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 14 January 2010 20:51 (fourteen years ago) link
except when he said on his blog that svrd isn't better than carter III
he said carter ii
― een, Thursday, 14 January 2010 21:01 (fourteen years ago) link
word-- well i would agree with that but i think he means carter III anyway, cuz otherwise i don't understand the comparison at all.
― total eclipse of the shart (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 14 January 2010 21:02 (fourteen years ago) link
well, in the pfork review he says it again
Like Wayne's Tha Carter II, it translates Gucci's mixtape triumphs into something more digestible and immediate.
this must be a mistake unless he's talking about the first dedication, but i mean obv the comparison would fit dedication 2 -> weezyana -> drought 3 -> carter III sessions -> carter III in terms of making wayne's mixtape triumphs more digestible and immediate
― total eclipse of the shart (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 14 January 2010 21:04 (fourteen years ago) link
you right, iii makes way more sense wrt that sentence
― een, Thursday, 14 January 2010 21:25 (fourteen years ago) link
it kind of seems like he's out to prove that he's listened to weezy albums before he was a phenomenon with white guys on the internet--i'm pretty sure he's spuriously referenced his "carter ii peak" in like every news item about lil wayne in the past 6 months.
― een, Thursday, 14 January 2010 21:28 (fourteen years ago) link
well he was def one of the most vocal & visible voices when it came to 07/08 wayne
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 14 January 2010 21:50 (fourteen years ago) link
also here's a crazy thought maybe Tom actually does believe Carter 2 was his peak
― some dude, Thursday, 14 January 2010 22:22 (fourteen years ago) link
i do too but if that's true then i don't think the analogy is really relevant-- i mean obviously wayne was putting out mixtapes before tha carter II but i don't think anyone at the time was viewing that album through the prism of his mixtapes (as opposed to tha carter or his younger cash money days) as everyone had no choice but to do w/ tha carter III or the state vs radric davis
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 14 January 2010 22:26 (fourteen years ago) link
i figured "tu casa, mi casa" was a bad sex jam so i put off listening to it but gucci's verse is sick!
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 16 January 2010 07:13 (fourteen years ago) link
mi casa so full a rastas
― not a playa but i ilx a lot (deej), Saturday, 16 January 2010 07:15 (fourteen years ago) link
this song reminds me that a few days i was thinking about how "dey know" and "foolish" are two of the most improbable (near-)classic singles in recent memory considering how genuinely shitty shawty lo is as a rapper. easily my least favorite rapper who i still might be forced to listen to. does he have a song with a trey songz hook?
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 16 January 2010 07:18 (fourteen years ago) link
can't tell if this laconic horror beat makes nicki unbearable cuz she has to slow down her flow or if it kind of fits perfectly
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 16 January 2010 07:19 (fourteen years ago) link
i like nikki on this, boring yo gotti verse which probably would have saved the track as a whole for me. too bad cuz the hook is a classic too
― not a playa but i ilx a lot (deej), Saturday, 16 January 2010 07:31 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah i need to download and clip it off so it goes chorus->gucci verse-> chorus
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 16 January 2010 07:33 (fourteen years ago) link
imo it needs verses by la the darkman and rock city
― not a playa but i ilx a lot (deej), Saturday, 16 January 2010 08:38 (fourteen years ago) link
"mi casa, su casa" is amazing
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Monday, 18 January 2010 12:04 (fourteen years ago) link
shawty lo's verse! "shawty lo, call me escobaaaarrrrr"
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Monday, 18 January 2010 12:16 (fourteen years ago) link
ho-ly shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QblqvOGOHM
― Jacques_Lamure, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 02:05 (fourteen years ago) link
that's amazing
― guardian nagle (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 02:10 (fourteen years ago) link
looool 1:35 is he saying "jort"? obv gucci reads ilx
― guardian nagle (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 02:12 (fourteen years ago) link
LONG LIVE PHARRELL WILLIAMS
beat sounds like a lost track from 400 degreez
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 19 January 2010 02:14 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.zshare.net/audio/71363278234666bc/
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 19 January 2010 02:15 (fourteen years ago) link
how many songs on this keyz to the city mixtape are old
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 19 January 2010 02:20 (fourteen years ago) link
that soldier song is pretty awesome
― Na'vi Girls (Need Love Too) (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 02:24 (fourteen years ago) link
is it out? xp
― guardian nagle (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 02:26 (fourteen years ago) link
http://rap-mixtapez.blogspot.com/2010/01/gucci-mane-young-jeezy-keyz-to-city.html
i recognize some of the track names but not all
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 19 January 2010 02:26 (fourteen years ago) link