― j blount (papa la bas), Friday, 15 September 2006 18:04 (seventeen years ago) link
Hey, I pitched Violator and got the same answer! (Well, presumably the same form letter.)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 15 September 2006 18:07 (seventeen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Friday, 15 September 2006 18:09 (seventeen years ago) link
Or are you referring to those evil, corporate new-fangled bookstores where you can sit there all day and just read anything they have without buying it blount?
― don weiner (don weiner), Friday, 15 September 2006 19:59 (seventeen years ago) link
― M. Agony Von Bontee (M. Agony Von Bontee), Friday, 15 September 2006 20:13 (seventeen years ago) link
― Run Ruud Run (Ken L), Friday, 15 September 2006 20:15 (seventeen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 15 September 2006 20:18 (seventeen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Friday, 15 September 2006 21:05 (seventeen years ago) link
And, what, that's dumb, VCN would be awesome to read about. It's dumb because it would probably sell just as well if not better than the rest of them. Like, all these books, their market have probably already read a ton of stuff on whoever they want to read about anyway. Who IS reading them? The people on this thread? So, not popular enough would be a plus. Books are not even in stores. anyway. Whatever. In theory they're cool little companion pieces the music collection.
― mox twelve (Mox twleve), Friday, 15 September 2006 21:23 (seventeen years ago) link
All that said Vision Creation Newsun is an album I would definitely be interested in reading more about.
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 15 September 2006 21:47 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 15 September 2006 21:52 (seventeen years ago) link
in a lot of ways, it wouldn't matter if i liked the record or not.
― sean gramophone (Sean M), Friday, 15 September 2006 21:54 (seventeen years ago) link
http://www.amazon.com/Miles-Beyond-Electric-Explorations-1967-1991/dp/0823083608/sr=1-14/qid=1158360979/ref=sr_1_14/104-1248919-2000735?ie=UTF8&s=books
― gear (gear), Friday, 15 September 2006 21:56 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 15 September 2006 22:03 (seventeen years ago) link
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 15 September 2006 23:03 (seventeen years ago) link
― Myke. (Myke Weiskopf), Saturday, 16 September 2006 02:49 (seventeen years ago) link
You're telling me!
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 16 September 2006 03:00 (seventeen years ago) link
I'd like to figure out how much Dominique would've expected to get paid for a project such as this, so that I may just save up or get on a payment plan or something and he can just write it for me.
― Period period period (Period period period), Saturday, 16 September 2006 04:34 (seventeen years ago) link
Yes, the rationale behind the rejection of "Violator" (not popular enough) makes no sense ... it's sold more copies than probably 90% of the other albums featured in the series. I guess "not popular enough" is code for "the way we see it, faggy synth pop fans don't read rock-crit".
― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 16 September 2006 16:15 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 16 September 2006 16:20 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 16 September 2006 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link
I felt sure there was one about Tago Mago. No?
― RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Saturday, 16 September 2006 16:30 (seventeen years ago) link
Not to say that Continuum decided to pick either NIN *or* DM, but I can certainly see the rationale for choosing PHM over Violator. There's a lot of mileage to be had from arguing that NIN came out of nowhere and sold a couple million records and "took the mainstream by surprise" or whatever, all of it happening before grunge got credit for doing the exact same thing (and with 100000X more press and airplay). I'm not sure you can argue that with DM, since they were a well-established band at that point. Plus, the same people who would buy a DM book are also likely to be interested in an NIN book.
― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 16 September 2006 16:41 (seventeen years ago) link
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Saturday, 16 September 2006 16:46 (seventeen years ago) link
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Saturday, 16 September 2006 16:47 (seventeen years ago) link
It's never had an obvious one but it's had a sometimes-grudging one. But even Rolling Stone did a positive main (but not cover) story on the band when that came out, a couple of years after they reviewed 101 in a way that could be described as 'cavemen meet aliens and try to tell fellow cavemen about the sparkly lights in the sky.'
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 16 September 2006 17:04 (seventeen years ago) link
LIKE ABBA GOLD
― the dow nut industrial average dead joe mama besser (donut), Saturday, 16 September 2006 17:30 (seventeen years ago) link
― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Saturday, 16 September 2006 18:00 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 16 September 2006 18:01 (seventeen years ago) link
― Eppy (Eppy), Saturday, 16 September 2006 18:23 (seventeen years ago) link
Big Difference.
― the dow nut industrial average dead joe mama besser (donut), Saturday, 16 September 2006 18:27 (seventeen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 16 September 2006 18:28 (seventeen years ago) link
― RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Saturday, 16 September 2006 18:30 (seventeen years ago) link
Anyway, this may be crazy talk, but maybe many books got turned down because of reasons other than the albums' popularities and seminal statuses.
Maybe they were't impressed the writers' work?
Maybe they felt too uncomfortable because they didn't know someone who knew someone who knew that writer?
Maybe someone in the committee had "this bands is the sucks" veto power?
These decisions were not made by science. I'm not claiming they're just arbitrary, reactionary, or dumb opinions either. But they boil down to opinions.
Unless 33 1/3rd has a patent on album review books (which I don't think they do, although surely they have it on the name), if there's such a demand for more album review books, and the series is selling well, is there not a possibility of an alternative publishing source?
― the dow nut industrial average dead joe mama besser (donut), Saturday, 16 September 2006 18:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Saturday, 16 September 2006 18:34 (seventeen years ago) link
― RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Saturday, 16 September 2006 18:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― the dow nut industrial average dead joe mama besser (donut), Saturday, 16 September 2006 18:53 (seventeen years ago) link
― the dow nut industrial average dead joe mama besser (donut), Saturday, 16 September 2006 18:54 (seventeen years ago) link
― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Saturday, 16 September 2006 19:06 (seventeen years ago) link
― m coleman (lovebug starski), Saturday, 16 September 2006 19:13 (seventeen years ago) link
― m coleman (lovebug starski), Saturday, 16 September 2006 19:25 (seventeen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 16 September 2006 19:44 (seventeen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 16 September 2006 19:49 (seventeen years ago) link
― timmy tannin (pompous), Saturday, 16 September 2006 20:08 (seventeen years ago) link
"Slacker aesthetic"--huh?
― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Saturday, 16 September 2006 20:27 (seventeen years ago) link
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 16 September 2006 20:31 (seventeen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 16 September 2006 20:37 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Saturday, 16 September 2006 20:41 (seventeen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 16 September 2006 20:42 (seventeen years ago) link
― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Saturday, 16 September 2006 21:35 (seventeen years ago) link