it doesnt help that tim didnt do a ballot this year!! lol
im also the only one who voted for rinse 10
― not a playa but i ilx a lot (deej), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 05:10 (fourteen years ago) link
there are other ppl not from your aim buddy list who voted for the actual album, one dude who voted for 'ea sportscenter' which is over a year old, and noz & someone else voted for 'writings on the wall'
― not a playa but i ilx a lot (deej), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 05:12 (fourteen years ago) link
that dude who voted for EA sportscenter writes for, lol, cokemachineglow
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 20 January 2010 05:16 (fourteen years ago) link
can someone explain to me how s0derberg, the dude partly responsible for the annoying gucci backlash from ppl who think gucci fans are racist ironicist overintellectualizers, ended up voting for no gucci albums
― not a playa but i ilx a lot (deej), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 05:18 (fourteen years ago) link
and for blueprint 3
me & him we're the only two to vote for "first day out"
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 20 January 2010 05:19 (fourteen years ago) link
i woulda but went w/ lemonade
i wish i hadnt voted for 'pleazure' tbh, altho its a decent song
― not a playa but i ilx a lot (deej), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 05:20 (fourteen years ago) link
I voted for "Lemonade"—one of only three votes for the song. I nearly voted for the album, too.
― rennavate, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 05:23 (fourteen years ago) link
my similar voters:
Similar voters0.539 Al3x M4cphers0n0.516 Juli4nne Esc0bedo Sh3pherd0.478 S3an F3nnessey0.437 D4niel Kr3ps0.430 J3nn1fer M4erz0.415 Mich4el G4llucc10.397 4l Sh1p3y0.391 D4vid Dr4ke0.383 J4s0n Ch3rk1s0.383 R0n H4rt
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 20 January 2010 05:26 (fourteen years ago) link
where are those listed
― not a playa but i ilx a lot (deej), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 05:29 (fourteen years ago) link
noz bit my album #s 2 and 3
can't believe how many people voted for "shine blockas" -- i think it's a great song but i'm surprised that it held its consensus longer than "roayl flush"
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 20 January 2010 05:31 (fourteen years ago) link
i told you it was overrated before it even was :D
― not a playa but i ilx a lot (deej), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 05:31 (fourteen years ago) link
deej -- http://furia.com/all-idols/2009/
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 20 January 2010 05:32 (fourteen years ago) link
My similar voters (a wicked cool feature, by the way):
0.479 Josh Love0.458 Alex Macpherson0.415 Daniel Kreps0.415 Sam Hockley-Smith0.394 Brandon Soderberg0.394 Julianne Escobedo Shepherd0.380 Thomas Inskeep0.380 Tom Ewing0.379 Andrew Casillas0.379 Tal Rosenberg
Also, I'm still kind of shocked "Empire State of Mind" WON THE SINGLES POLL. WTF.
― rennavate, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 05:33 (fourteen years ago) link
At least "My Girls" didn't win, which was my fear.
― i'd look psychotic in a baklava (The Reverend), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 05:46 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, i'll drink to that
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 20 January 2010 05:48 (fourteen years ago) link
"Royal Flush" came out at the beginning of the year and ppl had time to forget about it. Also "Shine Blockas" is a better song even if it doesn't have any rapping as good as Rae's verse from "Royal Flush".
― i'd look psychotic in a baklava (The Reverend), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 05:48 (fourteen years ago) link
I thought "Royal Flush" technically was "released" in 2008, i.e. was leaked to the internets then?
― rennavate, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 05:58 (fourteen years ago) link
it was -- i think the 12" actually dropped in 08
― not a playa but i ilx a lot (deej), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 06:00 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah-- i'm not saying that people should've been voting for it this year (or even at all)-- but that both "royal flush" and "shine blockas" garnered immediate OMFG reactions & i'm just puzzled that "shine blockas" actually kept it going to the point that it became so critically acclaimed in polls like this with pretty much 0 promotion. i think big boi made a video in reaction to it.
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 20 January 2010 06:00 (fourteen years ago) link
i think his song with too short from this year is way better regardless
― not a playa but i ilx a lot (deej), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 06:04 (fourteen years ago) link
naw, I meant "Royal Flush" was released early in 08
― i'd look psychotic in a baklava (The Reverend), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 06:05 (fourteen years ago) link
fukkin Michael Azerrad voted for shine blockas. that says all you need to know
― not a playa but i ilx a lot (deej), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 06:11 (fourteen years ago) link
who is that
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 20 January 2010 06:12 (fourteen years ago) link
http://a4.vox.com/6a00cdf3a0e976cb8f011015f6151c860b-500pi
― not a playa but i ilx a lot (deej), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 06:19 (fourteen years ago) link
Sorry Deej i forgot about it and then missed the deadline. FTR though I might not have ended up voting for Burrrprint 3D in my top 10 - it usually comes in around 10 or 11 on my list from memory.
Deej I love that you voted for that Sneaky Sound System remix.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 07:19 (fourteen years ago) link
haha well someone had to
― not a playa but i ilx a lot (deej), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 08:11 (fourteen years ago) link
i'm confused about "shine blockas" too, i mean i really like it but...not the best of anything.
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 12:00 (fourteen years ago) link
between that list & the electrik red one it's like 40% ilx, 50% my aim buddy list & 10% people who read so many shrimp
it's sort of depressing how small an impact our obvious consensus picks really have
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 12:02 (fourteen years ago) link
also "soldier" is amazing
i dunno, lex, the consensus around the-dream seems pretty ilm-spawned, it just took a couple years to mushroom outwards. that does point to ilm-consensus as being slower to penetrate the larger crit-world than, say, p4k-consensus, but duh a lot more people read pitchfork than read ilm
― i'd look psychotic in a baklava (The Reverend), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 21:57 (fourteen years ago) link
ppl hate azzerad? cuz i fuckin' love that book, super inspiring stories in there.
― Na'vi Girls (Need Love Too) (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 21:58 (fourteen years ago) link
no but who thinks he identifies great rap singles
― not a playa but i ilx a lot (deej), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 22:03 (fourteen years ago) link
shine blockas rox u r all gay
― i'd look psychotic in a baklava (The Reverend), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 22:26 (fourteen years ago) link
― i'd look psychotic in a baklava (The Reverend), Wednesday, January 20, 2010 4:57 PM (50 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
i remain v skeptical about The-Dream hype being ilm-spawned -- basically he triangulates a lot of things (moderately popular as an artist but big time producer/writer, weird/bad singing voice, idiosyncratic auteur vibe, multi-song suites and concept-y albums) that were always going to mark him as way more indie/critic-friendly than the overwhelming majority of mainstream R&B.
― The GAPDY Band - "You Jopped A Bomb On Me" (some dude), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 23:01 (fourteen years ago) link
its not ilm spawned ilm were just early adapters (well the 8 of us who paid attention to him around the 1st album anyway)
― not a playa but i ilx a lot (deej), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 23:09 (fourteen years ago) link
his 1st album was a sleeper hit as much commercially as it was critically, but please, continue back-patting
― The GAPDY Band - "You Jopped A Bomb On Me" (some dude), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 23:15 (fourteen years ago) link
"i helped shape the critical consensus on the-dream and all i got was this lousy t-shirt"
― Na'vi Girls (Need Love Too) (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 23:19 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, I just think a lot of the people who weren't paying attention the first time around and then did pick up on the 2nd album wouldn't have done so if we hadn't gotten the ball rolling on him critically. I mean, if it can all be boiled down to who The-Dream is and what he does, then why only the new album and not Love/Hate? I think the answer is obvious: critical momentum.
xp: I'm not trying to be all I/we were there first. I'm just observing, not taking credit.
― i'd look psychotic in a baklava (The Reverend), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 23:20 (fourteen years ago) link
im not sure what your point is -- lots of 'just folks' were sleeping on him too? so we werent even taking our cues from what was popular -- *pats self on the back more*
― not a playa but i ilx a lot (deej), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 23:21 (fourteen years ago) link
xps to al
the first album sold more and had more hits!
― i'd look psychotic in a baklava (The Reverend), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 23:21 (fourteen years ago) link
it's kinda weird that the first album got slept on to the extent it did, given the magnitude of the hits he'd written
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 23:22 (fourteen years ago) link
rev the ball was kinda rolling on him critically with or without ilm, imo. there were ppl into him outside of this sphere as well
― not a playa but i ilx a lot (deej), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 23:22 (fourteen years ago) link
fair, I just didn't see it at the time (which could be a sign of my own myopia, sure), whereas when LvM came out it all of a sudden plaudits all over the place, 4.5 stars in RS, etc
― i'd look psychotic in a baklava (The Reverend), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 23:25 (fourteen years ago) link
fwiw:
Jonathan BradleyDavid DrakeTim FinneyRob HarvillaAndy KellmanTal RosenbergAlfred SotoKye Stephenson
― i'd look psychotic in a baklava (The Reverend), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 23:44 (fourteen years ago) link
Moving away from Terius for just a moment, only three voters for Ryan Leslie, one of which was me:
Brandon SoderbergIan SteamanRenato Pagnani
Very disappointing.
― rennavate, Thursday, 21 January 2010 00:00 (fourteen years ago) link
i voted for 'transition'
― not a playa but i ilx a lot (deej), Thursday, 21 January 2010 00:33 (fourteen years ago) link
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, January 20, 2010 6:22 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
well, Love/Hate dropped like 6 months after "Umbrella" hit, and virtually every other major hit he's had besides "Bed" has been since then -- it's not like Ne-Yo's first album coming a solid year and a half after "Let Me Love You' or something, The-Dream jumped from writer of hit songs to major label artist pretty much overnight.
anyway that first album got tons of positive and sometimes rave reviews in Rolling Stone, NYT, Vibe, Entertainment Weekly, Pop Matters, etc. upon its initial release, way before he was an 'ILM favorite.'
― The GAPDY Band - "You Jopped A Bomb On Me" (some dude), Thursday, 21 January 2010 00:33 (fourteen years ago) link
yeahm the whole ILM embrace of the dream seemed like it came somewhere after poptimist major mag coverage, but before the dribbles of alt adoption
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 21 January 2010 01:10 (fourteen years ago) link