― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 12 July 2005 20:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 20:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 21:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― I'd still rather be in Tokyo (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 21:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― bluey, Tuesday, 12 July 2005 21:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 12 July 2005 21:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― I'd still rather be in Tokyo (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 21:13 (eighteen years ago) link
Space blues!
― Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 21:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 21:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― bluey, Tuesday, 12 July 2005 21:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 21:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― bluey, Tuesday, 12 July 2005 21:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 12 July 2005 22:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 22:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 22:09 (eighteen years ago) link
For me the closest reference points for this music is not rock at all, it's African music - specifically stuff from Mali (Ali Farka Toure, etc.) and Ethiopia. Oddly, counter to Matt's point (which I nonetheless think is largely accurate), fat Possum has been a bit of a bonding point between me and one of my in-laws who is a TOTAL hardcore, relatively "purist" blues/folk afficionado (he likes Ali Farka Toure too).
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 12 July 2005 22:12 (eighteen years ago) link
you mean, they would probably like blues rock like the white stripes et al, but hate actual blues?
― bluey, Tuesday, 12 July 2005 22:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 22:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 12 July 2005 22:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 22:35 (eighteen years ago) link
The average blues fan in 2005 maybe dabbles in some modern West-Side purveyors (Magic Slim, Eddy Clearwater), but more than likely gets down to Ronnie Earl and Duke Robillard.
Not that there's anything wrong with any of those artists per se, but the average Fat Possum artist is a great deal more rural and tonally "rough".
From my experiences, a lot of blues fans are elitist pricks. The 40-somethings who buy Black Top releases and look down their nose at you when you attempt to chat them up about the genre. This is from years of working in record stores, playing in blues clubs and jams, etc.
The above don't listen to Fat Possum records.
― Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 22:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 22:39 (eighteen years ago) link
Two ex-Compulsive Gamblers in the backing band, as well.
― JAS, Tuesday, 12 July 2005 22:39 (eighteen years ago) link
well, i feel a bit guilty for admiting it but yes, that is exactly what i meant shakey. im not trying to be contentious or agitate, but a lot of people do seem to hold that view of authenticity over anything else. they seem to like the idea of what it represents more than how it actually sounds. and you are OTM about mali music being a close ref point. thats always been evident to me.
― bluey, Tuesday, 12 July 2005 22:39 (eighteen years ago) link
i think most f.p. fans (if any "f.p. fans" truly exist outside of matthew whathisname who runs the show) will have encountered the "you only like it cos it's REAL man" complaint so many times as to be pretty self-conscious about it. in others bluey i think you might be conjuring up a bit of a straw man.
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 22:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 22:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 12 July 2005 22:46 (eighteen years ago) link
To me, Fat Possum was just a giant fuck you to slap bass and glossy, reverbed production. It was exciting, in the same way Sun/Chess/Trumpet/Jewel records from the 50s and 60s were exciting.Dirty, ominous, and dangerous.
I see where Bluey is coming from. I just think that from the vantage point of someone who grew up in a household where virtually all you heard was blues, Fat Possum was a giant breath of fresh air.
― Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 22:48 (eighteen years ago) link
during the show RL kept saying the joke, "Waitress, get me another beer, this one has a hole in it!" to much applause....
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 22:50 (eighteen years ago) link
BLUES HAMMER
xpost: nephew
― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 22:52 (eighteen years ago) link
so hearing Fat Possum (and some other underground blues labels) was definitely an eye-opener. yeah, most of my friends from high school who were big into the blues are probably still into Stevie Ray Vaughn and Duke Robillaird and Keb Mo, and I totally understand the distaste for that style. And I agree with it!
― Gear! (Ill Cajun Gunsmith) (Gear!), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 22:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― bluey, Tuesday, 12 July 2005 23:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― there are twelve people in the world the rest are haitch (haitch), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 23:26 (eighteen years ago) link
Those 70s Son Seals and Fenton Robinson LPs are so raw! Live and Burning is probably my favorite live album of all time.
― Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 23:41 (eighteen years ago) link
Luther Allison went through this weird "soul" period in the mid-70s that was pretty weak, which springs immediately to mind. He found the plot again a little bit in the mid-'90s, it's a shame he passed away too early. I saw a show of his a few months before and it was definitely RAW
― Gear! (Ill Cajun Gunsmith) (Gear!), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 23:43 (eighteen years ago) link
Just saw the You See Me Laughing documentary and am inspired to drop a C note on some Fat Possum stuff. I already have a lot - almost every Junior Kimbrough album, RL's Too Bad Jim and Ass Pocket of Whiskey, the Elmo and Hezikiah album, Robert Belfour, etc. I don't own any T Model Ford, Cedell Davis, Asie Peyton, etc. I was gonna start a S&D thread but I know starting new threads when you can just revive an old one is frowned upon, so...help me out! What's essential?
― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Monday, 28 January 2008 23:20 (sixteen years ago) link
S: To Model Ford's "I'm Insane"
― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 28 January 2008 23:40 (sixteen years ago) link
also Pee Wee Get My Gun and She Ain't None of Your'N
― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 28 January 2008 23:41 (sixteen years ago) link
Junior K sill fucking epic
― admrl, Wednesday, 20 August 2008 05:16 (fifteen years ago) link
well, most things don't work out! -- I'd still rather be in Tokyo (nordicskilla)
― admrl, Wednesday, 20 August 2008 05:17 (fifteen years ago) link
I remember having some conversation where a dude was like, "Fat Possum is some intentionally gritty, tryin to force-fit the rawness of whatever those white dudes runnin shit think the blues is/should be" (or something) and I'm all "no way, most of those guys are just some old poor folks w/ cheap guitars and amps cuz that's what they can afford, and for a long time Fat Possum barely had enough money to record that shit and usually had to wait to put it out cuz they couldn't actually finance it--of course it sounds raw and gritty", and he was all "my bad". I forget where, on the internet someplace most likely...
― RabiesAngentleman, Wednesday, 20 August 2008 13:43 (fifteen years ago) link
I don't think we got into the RL Burnside albums with house beats and whatever.
― RabiesAngentleman, Wednesday, 20 August 2008 13:44 (fifteen years ago) link
http://lens.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/03/27/documenting-the-blues-in-the-mississippi-delta/?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=mini-moth®ion=top-stories-below&WT.nav=top-stories-below&_r=0
― curmudgeon, Friday, 27 March 2015 15:42 (nine years ago) link
Saw a FP t-shirt in the wild today“Born to Party /Forced to Work”I like to switch the nouns around
― calstars, Sunday, 10 September 2023 19:11 (nine months ago) link