letz talk abt gucci mane

what is HHC

HipHop Connection. British rap mag.

lol oh

i don't think that person posts here unless it's rtc on the sly

subtle zing

can't wait for his comeback zing in 2 months

lol

final proof if any were needed that I am completely out of all loops at this point = a guy whose opinion I genuinely respect believes that jeezy is a great rap artist

anybody needs me, I'm in the corner listening to 101 strings

'the recession' was considered an autogoon/swagringsnapcru classic by numerous ilx posters

i believe you i just have a hard time reconciling that with my experience of the jeezy album I had - the one with "and then what" which i considered one good song surrounded by over an hour of garbage

Thug Motivation 101 is great, too.

yeah that was the one, I'm just gonna take out my dentures and listen to Return from Mecca, never mind me

it's 11:15 EST, i think you should just go to bed

frankly yr right but there's some truly incredible boxing on fox sports south right now

xp

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J0hn: I don't really like the first album either but give The Recession a go- dude has really grown into a good artist who now knows how to use his schtick to full effect.

'and then what' isnt even close to my fav song on that album .... 'soul survivor'? 'my hood'?

and "Go Crazy" and "Trap Star" and "Standing Ovation" and...

Who is this girl in the lemonade video?

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My heart...

Thug Motivation 101 is great, too.

rev with the MASSIVE UNDERSTATEMENT

finally hearing cd quality "lemonade" was sooo awesome, that bassline <3

lol, i don't really get what u guys are trying to say about me but okay.

from the perspective of britishers unable to throw everything out the window theyve got used to wrt liking rap and non-comedically get on board with gucci on a grassroots level, surely it can't be that hard to fathom why a dude would prefer jeezy - it's not about lyricism complaints or anything so much as the way jeezy conducts himself with the familiar star gravitas of a classic rapper and more or less follows a regulation album type arc with (the recession being one of the albums of the decade as well. (iirc didn't jordan say much the same as all this at the time?) gucci's is a just a foreign kinda swag basically, though 'lemonade' is well capable of sending him over the top.

i mean it's funny cos once i mightve said similarish about jeezy, who at one point seemed to me the biggest rapper in the world who no one had a clue about over here besides being the guy on that akon 'soul survivor', the r kelly joint and that jigga one with the old horns.

at the same time though you can't ever say that deep rap interest in the uk hasnt had a romanticised kinda faraway othering at play from the very start - even if you look at that martorialist guy (good dude, good blog imo) he's been kneedeep in hyphy and bay area for what seems a fair old while, probably huntsville stuff too i forget,and it just doesnt feel as incongruous as repping 4 gucci. it's all weird and complicated and interesting where all the tipping points are, i dunno. also look at any rap radio show playlist here and folks basically have no idea what to play anymore.

not asking anyone to care but there it is.

kinda disagree with dom being a good fit for fatlace btw, always associated them guys with an easygoing selfdeprecating thing and dude's shockjock impotent fury doesn't sit right imo. hhc most definitely however.

it's all love though, i lol at shabani nonda refs same as the next guy.

oh it's totally easy to see the thought process behind the 'average rapper' piece and i'm not even sure its perspective is uniquely british in any particular way. to me it's hilarious how they include the "we swear we're not trolling" caveat and proceed to troll troll troll, bullet pointing like 3 items with half of a single idea hidden among them.

bay and huntsville aren't faraway distant in time so i kind of lost what you were saying re gucci there, can you talk about this some more

xp oh yeah sure no doubt on that, know the man know the work. just seemed to me like the crew huffing "uniqlo - fail" or whatever were having a bit of trouble with the rest of it though.

zvook i just meant in terms of the rules being a bit blurry wrt britishers digging on locale-specific stuff. huntsville is no big stylistic mystery tho i guess.

more fire gucci + pharrell

http://usershare.net/btogegjnwiyl

on that goose and cranberry juice
drop top vette, cranberry coupe

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i hope gucci + pharrell is nore + pharrell of the 2010s

i am bossin, proceed with caution cuz i am flossin
i didn't do that feature with you cuz you're not important

word to the wise, gucci mane's a wise guy
to all those who despise i shoot you 25 times
my session yesterday, recorded 25 rhymes
haters fuck with other niggas shit but they don't fuck with mine

im not really sure this is the direction i want to see gucci going in terms of beats

great verse tho

how did I go so long in life without hearing 'shine blockas'

this is the new intl playa's anthem

lol I see p4k has already made the same observ. but nothin can bring me off this high

still dont get that song being a 10/10 rap blockbuster critic track

yeah...today on singles jukebox i was the only person to not give a 7 or 8 or 9

i think it's pretty sublime but not even in my top 20 gucci trax of last year -- i understand all reasons why it's crit catnip tho

i kinda don't...i mean if you asked me a few months ago what kind of collaboration would make a gucci song the toast of the indie blogosphere, i guess one of the dudes from outkast would be a good guess but far from my first guess

because it's good

non-critics like it. rap dudes like it. deej & some dude don't. no big mystery about two guys not liking a track.

i get that it's good, but i don't hear 'sublime' (or 'thrilling and freeing' or 'a towering anthem' or any of the other superlatives typically thrown at it).

i mean it being compared to "Int'l Players Anthem" is o_O to me, that's way way way out of its league imo

yeah i suspect that's just the last outkast connected thing dyao remembers digging a lot tbh. i think someone, lex maybe, wrote well about the way the chorus rolls out in the trax poll thread; it's easy for me to understand ppl getting gleeful off it, maybe in the same way they got off on the lyrical trickery of players anthem.

yeah maybe. i mean nobody is a bigger sucker for southern soul beat shit than me but for whatever reason it isn't pushing my buttons very hard.

I love how the beat flips the sadsack sample from "This Can't Be Life" into something joyous and momentous.

i get that it's good, but i don't hear 'sublime' (or 'thrilling and freeing' or 'a towering anthem' or any of the other superlatives typically thrown at it).

― some dude, Friday, February 19, 2010 8:14 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i mean it being compared to "Int'l Players Anthem" is o_O to me, that's way way way out of its league imo

― some dude, Friday, February 19, 2010 8:15 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

exactly ... i mean i think it could get an 8/10 cuz big boi goes in but its still more a rap nerd track 2 me than, like, emotionally transcendent rap-song-oty for me

yeah i just dont get any real enveloping mood from the sample, it just registers as like "hey soul sample is soulful". i mean, compared to like the 30 inches rmx where the strings in the background kinda get me when u hear them in the background of the verses, or obv international players anthem (which actually I was kinda down on just cuz i was so familiar w/ the original project pat use of that sample) which is just so much more emotionally generous...

to me it's all kinda like if the "this random Clipse mixtape track is the most magnificent rap song of the year!" hype happened the same year that "Grindin'" came out.

i thought ppl went crazy for "Grindin'"? tho i could be like that "how did reagan get in when no one i know voted for him" saw here, i guess.