Defend the Indefensible: Live (the band)

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if I were to try to defend Live, I guess I'd say that their big songs (I've never heard the albums) were full of angry groaning that could conceivably get you pumped up as you got ready to play basketball.

Euler, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 21:49 (sixteen years ago) link

eight months pass...

Car full of high school kids were bumping "Lakini's Juice" at a red light yesterday.

too many misters not enough sisters (milo z), Monday, 27 April 2009 21:37 (fifteen years ago) link

awesome

the freakish wonder of nature that is "Beat Me" (HI DERE), Monday, 27 April 2009 21:41 (fifteen years ago) link

never a big fan but throwing copper earned its massive play. phaser on lightning crashes rules. never douchebags that i've heard of.

creed blame falls squarely on pearl jam bros.

butt-rock miyagi (rogermexico.), Monday, 27 April 2009 21:43 (fifteen years ago) link

i know a dude with a Live (The Band) tattoo

GOON carter cash (J0rdan S.), Monday, 27 April 2009 21:44 (fifteen years ago) link

Parentheses his?

homage is parody gone sour (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 27 April 2009 21:45 (fifteen years ago) link

that's awesome!

Satin Lives (Tape Store), Monday, 27 April 2009 21:45 (fifteen years ago) link

i think it's their logo

GOON carter cash (J0rdan S.), Monday, 27 April 2009 21:46 (fifteen years ago) link

five years pass...

http://www.vulture.com/2014/12/dave-holmes-top-40-cheryl-strayed-1995.html

37. "Lightning Crashes," Live
True story: Just after I’d moved to Los Angeles a decade or so ago, I met some friends for drinks at Barney’s Beanery, a giant, noisy West Hollywood bro-bar that smells like how they describe Valerie Cherish’s trailer on the new season of The Comeback. It was karaoke night, which it somehow almost always is there, and sometime around midnight we all heard the opening chords to “Lightning Crashes.” “Oh, dear God,” I said. “Who would do this?” And seriously: Who wants to sing a song about death in childbirth underneath a TV with SportsCenter on it? Who gets drunk and sings the word placenta? I turned toward the stage and felt a twinge of recognition, and when he began singing, it hit me: The person who would unleash Live’s “Lightning Crashes” on a karaoke night crowd was Live’s own Ed Kowalczyk. I walked toward the stage in disbelief, as did about half the crowd. And as he sang, we all scanned each other’s faces for cues so we’d know how to react: Like, is this the coolest thing we have ever experienced, or is it unspeakably sad? You guys, I still have no idea.

j., Saturday, 6 December 2014 21:19 (nine years ago) link


5. "All Over You," Live
Now, if I were Ed Kowalczyk, and I were meeting friends for draft beers and potato skins at a bar that smells like throw-up, and it were karaoke night, and I were determined to sing my own song, I’d go with this one. This is your crowd-pleaser, Kowalczyk; keep your placenta to yourself.

j., Saturday, 6 December 2014 21:21 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

The "I Alone" video is one of the 20th Century's greatest works of high comedy.

Potty Stickers (Old Lunch), Monday, 2 March 2015 18:04 (nine years ago) link

Oh my god, that karaoke story is insanely funny

Poliopolice, Monday, 2 March 2015 18:13 (nine years ago) link

Listening to Ed Kowalczyk sing "drunk on your juuuuuices" in "Turn My Head" is an excellent natural emetic.

Eggnog On My Kangol (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 19:25 (nine years ago) link

five months pass...

wa·ter - /ˈwôdər,ˈwädər/ (noun)
1. a colorless, transparent, odorless, tasteless liquid that is commonly pinned down and abused for being strange: "Our love is like water."

Herbie Mann's Push Push Pops (Old Lunch), Thursday, 27 August 2015 15:05 (nine years ago) link

I am overcooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooome

you too could be called a 'Star' by the Compliance Unit (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 27 August 2015 17:35 (nine years ago) link

The singer's bouncing so-mo rattail in the "I Alone" video has haunted my dreams for nigh-on 20 years.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 27 August 2015 17:43 (nine years ago) link

popular haircut with spanish crust punks

you too could be called a 'Star' by the Compliance Unit (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 27 August 2015 17:57 (nine years ago) link

That performance with tricky on conan is worth a view

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FPkktfthLmo

nomar, Thursday, 27 August 2015 18:04 (nine years ago) link

i love how his "intense" wide-eyed stare resembles no one so much as andy kaufman

da croupier, Thursday, 27 August 2015 18:08 (nine years ago) link

Can't get enough of this truck you guys.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/b3/6f/81/b36f8172dc1af184ccf2fd6719d11cd8.jpg

All flyin' through the air, blastin' Heaven Wore a Shirt.

how's life, Thursday, 27 August 2015 18:13 (nine years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CH3XooFWoAQNHsn.jpg:large

The headlights and grill appear to be painted on these things.

how's life, Thursday, 27 August 2015 18:15 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxuUogulD2M

how's life, Thursday, 27 August 2015 18:17 (nine years ago) link

i bought a couple of this bands albums last year from the cheap bins : 'birds of prey' and 'secret samadhi'.
one even came with a live dvd !
not sure i have ever made it through either of them.

mark e, Thursday, 27 August 2015 18:18 (nine years ago) link

live gets some props for using the word "placenta" in a pop song. some

all my friends are vampires (art), Thursday, 27 August 2015 18:19 (nine years ago) link

ok, as per the premise of the thread : the opening 3 mins of 'the dam at otter creek' is rather good ..
the rest of the song is standard college rock, but those gated drums and atmospherics in the build up are kinda cool.

mark e, Thursday, 27 August 2015 18:28 (nine years ago) link

I have watched "The Dolphin's Cry" maybe 4 or 5 times this week bcz it is so totally bombastic and OTT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBHmcORu4og

Y Kant Max Read (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 27 August 2015 18:31 (nine years ago) link

I genuinely love "Lakini's Juice"

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Friday, 28 August 2015 16:01 (nine years ago) link

same

great karaoke song

two years pass...

MORE SKIN

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Saturday, 25 August 2018 19:27 (six years ago) link

four years pass...

I wuz bored, so read the whole thing… hard to imagine too many others caring for such a lengthy and meticulous accounting of this band’s dirty laundry.

unknown blues singer (morrisp), Saturday, 18 February 2023 21:05 (one year ago) link

i read it for 10 mins, after which i gave up.
then i realised that i have 3 albums on cd by LIVE.
2 of which i dont think i have ever actually listened to all the way to the end.

mark e, Saturday, 18 February 2023 21:11 (one year ago) link

(to be clear, I’m not shading you for posting it… just surprised RS would go so deep on this subject)

unknown blues singer (morrisp), Saturday, 18 February 2023 21:18 (one year ago) link

when tricky played on Conan a couple of years ago, Ed Kowalcyxisbf, Live's singer, sang with tricky. he was dressed like a hippy and had a bandana on to hide his balding scalp (he actually had long hair at the time). although the entire performance was horrendous, Ed kept trying to really get into the song, and he was doing this extremely awkward dance and just generally looked like a weenus. i was lucky enough to have caught it on tape (i was expecting tricky to be much better) and every time i watch this tape a can't help but laugh my ass off. i guess that's a defense.

Had to look this one up. Thank you, YouTubes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-eNS8lMltk

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Saturday, 18 February 2023 21:28 (one year ago) link

...he pleaded no contest to felony criminal trespass, felony theft by deception, two counts of felony forgery, misdemeanor stalking, and misdemeanor simple assault, Hynes has been held under house arrest at Live’s former corporate headquarters in York, Pennsylvania

“That ended my creativity in the band,” says Taylor, still pained by the memory. “I felt like a married couple where someone says, ‘I’m no longer going to have sex with you. But we’ll stay married.’ It was one of the saddest moments of my life.”

These guys sound more dysfunctional than Fleetwood Mac.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 18 February 2023 21:50 (one year ago) link

...he was also willing to fund Taylor’s new band, the Gracious Few — an alt-rock supergroup of sorts featuring Dahlheimer, Candlebox singer Kevin Martin, and Candlebox guitarist Sean Hennesy.

Why couldn't they just call it Candlebox II?

Soon, though, the band members had to figure out other ways to supplement their income. Taylor tried producing movies, like the 2010 Ernest Borgnine-Cybill Shepherd film Another Harvest Moon

“At first I was like, ‘fiber optics?’ ” says Taylor. “ ‘We barely know anything about real estate, let alone fiber.’ ” But Hynes had an idea to lay down a fiber-optic cable that ran directly from New York to Ashburn, Virginia, bypassing the big cities along the I-95 corridor where Verizon and others ran their cables. “I know this sounds weird, but I was like, ‘OK, that sounds like a great idea,’ ” Taylor says. “Somebody said we went from throwing copper to laying cable.”

Taylor isn’t broke to the point where he can’t afford his own bison burger, but he’s grateful for the love.

Why couldn't they just call it Candlebox II?

They probably couldn't use the name (which also comes up in the Live intra-band disputes).

Kind of off-topic, but I recently watched the Go-Gos documentary – I didn't realize how super dysfunctional and shitty to each other that band was in its heyday. Hard feelings over songwriting credits (and, accordingly, publishing $$ split) was a big part of it (which also comes up in the Live thing). It makes me appreciate how smart (and fairly unusual?) it was for R.E.M. to split all their songs evenly, from the beginning.

unknown blues singer (morrisp), Saturday, 18 February 2023 22:21 (one year ago) link

We park and walk into Redeux Vintage, an upscale vintage clothing store where a Billy Joel T-shirt from the Storm Front tour will set you back $75. In the early Nineties, this was Live’s rehearsal space. He points to a corner. “Ed wrote ‘Lightning Crashes’ right here,” he says. “And I wrote ‘Dam at Otter Creek’ right over there. It all happened right in this space.”

And the Go-Go's collaborated with each other on songs in all kinds of combinations. By the third (and best) album Kathy Valentine and Gina Schock contributed first-rate stuff.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 18 February 2023 22:35 (one year ago) link

Kind of off-topic, but I recently watched the Go-Gos documentary – I didn't realize how super dysfunctional and shitty to each other that band was in its heyday. Hard feelings over songwriting credits (and, accordingly, publishing $$ split) was a big part of it (which also comes up in the Live thing).

And even then, the Go-Go's doc didn't get into most of the legal fighting - zero mention of the God Bless the Go-Go's reunion album (with some outside songwriters) and the insane legal fighting where at least every member of the band was trying to be fired by the other four.

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 19 February 2023 00:09 (one year ago) link

I saw a recent-ish TV interview with the Go-Gos where Carlisle said something to the effect that one month they'd all be suing each other, and then the next month four of them would be planning a surprise birthday party for the fifth one.

It was startling to learn that Charlotte Caffey had a serious heroin addiction for years, and the other members (by their own admission) didn’t really give much of an f? Sounded like the new bassist had to interrupt a South American tour and physically haul her back to CA for rehab, to save her life.

(I read afterward that Belinda was also an addict, for decades… I didn’t realize the band’s story was so dark.)

unknown blues singer (morrisp), Sunday, 19 February 2023 00:26 (one year ago) link

couldn't help lolling at this - the rest is just sad

the Reading Outlet Center, which they bought for $1 million in 2011 with plans to renovate it as an apartment and retail complex. The building later collapsed.

StanM, Sunday, 19 February 2023 00:49 (one year ago) link

When I first saw the New Radicals I assumed it was Live due to his baldness

PaulTMA, Sunday, 19 February 2023 01:07 (one year ago) link


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