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the thing about rap is it is too basic.

Yeah! Basic like polyrhythms and assonance, suckas!

slipknot is more complex than any metal band out there, but rap? i can do that on my casio

Do it. Post it.

― JC-L (JC-L), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 18:54 (twenty years ago) link

what would that prove

― trevapina, Tuesday, 27 April 2004 18:55 (twenty years ago) link

Slipknot make music for fifteen year old boys with bad complexions and stunted imaginations from too many hours infront of their playstations playing "Doom". It's bad, corporate Columbine Rock. Take a potshot at Hip Hop? Sure, you have my blessing, but co me back with something better to offer than silly Slipknot...a band you'll invariably be wholly embarassed to admit to liking in about three years time

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 18:56 (twenty years ago) link

Vision of Disorder

― trevapina, Tuesday, 27 April 2004 18:57 (twenty years ago) link

I'm actually more entertained by the notion that Slipknot is "complex" metal than anything else.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 18:57 (twenty years ago) link

slipknot is more complex than any metal band out there, but rap? i can do that on my casio

I made a slipknot song on my toaster this morning, sucka! I'll post it right after you post your rap song. And it better be rap and not hip-hop, because I know they're two different things. One's more jungly!

― mike h. (mike h.), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 18:58 (twenty years ago) link

Slipknot had robert fripp's jaw dropping at one of their shows

― trevapina, Tuesday, 27 April 2004 18:58 (twenty years ago) link

who's robert fripp?

― mike h. (mike h.), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 18:59 (twenty years ago) link

KING CRIMSON u moron

― trevapina, Tuesday, 27 April 2004 19:00 (twenty years ago) link

what would that prove

That you can do it. And post it.

It's kind of like what you're doing now, but it involves you going away for awhile (which would actually make me sad).

― JC-L (JC-L), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 19:01 (twenty years ago) link

did i just really see someone ask who robert fripp is?

granted i havent heard king crimson but hes pretty fucking famous

― trevapina, Tuesday, 27 April 2004 19:01 (twenty years ago) link

Who is KING CRIMSON?

― starless and bible black (nickalicious), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 19:03 (twenty years ago) link

Is he that dude that did that one song with Puffy?

― starless and bible black (nickalicious), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 19:03 (twenty years ago) link

POST IT.

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 19:03 (twenty years ago) link

FRIPPERTRONICS!

― Will (will), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 19:04 (twenty years ago) link

so you're more of a theoretical expert?

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 19:04 (twenty years ago) link

ronan keating?

u fag

― trevapina, Tuesday, 27 April 2004 19:04 (twenty years ago) link

hey Treva!
Maybe you should post a list of all the gay names, since you're the (theoretical) expert.

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 19:06 (twenty years ago) link

Huckleberry

― trevapina, Tuesday, 27 April 2004 19:07 (twenty years ago) link

POST IT

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 19:08 (twenty years ago) link

(anyway, I just realized the hilarity of the thread title)

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 19:09 (twenty years ago) link

THE RAP! THE RAP! THE RAP IS ON FIRE! WE DON'T NEED NO WATER LET THE MUTHAFUCKA BURN!

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 19:09 (twenty years ago) link

post what you dumb piece of shit

― trevapina, Tuesday, 27 April 2004 19:09 (twenty years ago) link

your effort at rap on the casio!

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 19:10 (twenty years ago) link

fuck you idiots im gonna go back where smart people chat

― trevapina, Tuesday, 27 April 2004 19:10 (twenty years ago) link

send me a studio program moron

― trevapina, Tuesday, 27 April 2004 19:10 (twenty years ago) link

back at the ol pepole!

― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 19:11 (twenty years ago) link

where do smart people chat? I want to go and read the posts to learn, I promise I won't post!

― mike h. (mike h.), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 19:11 (twenty years ago) link

that was our intention all along. send you back to the smart people.

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 19:11 (twenty years ago) link

fuck you idiots im gonna go back where smart people chat

Make sure you order a decaf once you get there.

― JC-L (JC-L), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 19:11 (twenty years ago) link

just shut up

― trevapina, Tuesday, 27 April 2004 19:14 (twenty years ago) link

you shut up!

― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 19:14 (twenty years ago) link

Make me, bedwetter!

xpost

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 19:14 (twenty years ago) link

These "smart people" you speak of, do they have as flippant an attitude towards spelling and punctuation as you do?

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 19:14 (twenty years ago) link

Hahahahahaha

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 19:15 (twenty years ago) link

I can say with absolute honesty that I do not want you to stop posting messages to this thread, Treva. Please don't go.

― Scott CE (Scott CE), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 19:16 (twenty years ago) link

Shhh! He asked nicely, people.

― JC-L (JC-L), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 19:16 (twenty years ago) link

STOP. STEP AWAY FROM THE IDIOT THREAD.

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 19:17 (twenty years ago) link

just fuck off you doughnut fucking goat eating pieces of dog shit.

dawn of the dead upon you

― trevapina, Tuesday, 27 April 2004 19:18 (twenty years ago) link

texas chainsaw massacre upon you

― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 19:19 (twenty years ago) link

do you need a hug, Treva?

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 19:19 (twenty years ago) link

Goat meat is good!

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 19:20 (twenty years ago) link

you all are retarded haha

― trevapina, Tuesday, 27 April 2004 19:22 (twenty years ago) link

you are!

― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 19:24 (twenty years ago) link

scream 3 be a pox upon you all!

― mike h. (mike h.), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 19:24 (twenty years ago) link

Somewhere in Middle America, a dog is about to be kicked. And we, ILM, are at least partially to blame.

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 19:27 (twenty years ago) link

go listen to your Howard Jones cassingles you faggots.

― trevapina, Tuesday, 27 April 2004 19:28 (twenty years ago) link

As it happens, I have a weakness for Slipknot - I think "Left Behind" is a great single, I know from the kids I used to work with that Slipknot speaks to them & that, to me, is meaningful. I love the way they rep for Iowa while running it down at the same time. But Trevor said this:

slipknot is more complex than any metal band out there

Which makes me think you haven't really listened to much metal, Trevor. Cult of Luna is considerably more complex than Slipknot (but just as hard); so's God Forbid; so's Radiation 4, and so's Lickgoldensky, and I could seriously sit here all day and name metal bands who are both ridiculously complex and extremely hard. But that wasn't your original point. Your original point was "rap isn't music," but I can't imagine how you can make that case - what is music if not words and notes arranged rhythically? Certainly rap is that, so your case fails there.

The "hiphop originated in Africa and was very junglish" is just bizarre and I have no idea what your source is for that claim but, umm, you're wrong about it.

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 19:29 (twenty years ago) link

ok say what you want about Trevor but "go listen to your Howard Jones cassingles" is unbelievably classic

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 19:29 (twenty years ago) link

Ok, now that I'm seeing someone who actually said something nice about Slipknot, given the cognitive dissonance inside me, I can't keep up this charade anymore.

THEY SUCK, THEY FUCKING SUCK, SUCK, SUCK, SUCK.

Goddamn, they blow harder than a stuck vaccuum cleaner.

― trevapina, Tuesday, 27 April 2004 19:30 (twenty years ago) link

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