So "assign[ing] knobs to functions in Abelton Live" =/= "actually doing something"?
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 18:53 (fourteen years ago) link
i think "faker" is a bit ridiculous as language for this, but what do you like a fly-lo artist to do in this context? live mpc playing? different mixes on the fly?
― harshbuzz to my chilt-on (zvookster), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 18:56 (fourteen years ago) link
heh xposting there obv
"performance"
― beta blog, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 19:08 (fourteen years ago) link
this dude shld ask ppl in the audience if they are having a good time at the show
― Lamp, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 19:11 (fourteen years ago) link
he shld use his real name when referring to himself and telling anecdotes abt the tour
― Lamp, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 19:12 (fourteen years ago) link
then say "have any of u assigned knobs in abelton live? if so u no whats going down here"
"but if u havent ur gonna think that if really doing smthn & the joke is on u"
― Lamp, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 19:13 (fourteen years ago) link
then he can tear his sunglasses off & throw them into the crowd & start blasting the tunes
― Lamp, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 19:14 (fourteen years ago) link
I can't tell from that clip if he actually is just playing with effects, but I agree that doing some on-the-fly sequencing adds a lot. He's probably doing a little bit of it - when he moves over to the laptop for a second he's likely clicking on the next row of 4 or 8 bar sequences - but using something like this would make a more exciting and genuinely "live" performance: http://lostinmusik.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/novation-launchpad-music-control-surface_1.jpg
― Dan I., Wednesday, 24 March 2010 21:32 (fourteen years ago) link
oops, that's bigger than I thought.
― Dan I., Wednesday, 24 March 2010 21:33 (fourteen years ago) link
or this
http://www.snyderphonics.com/products.htm
― rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 21:39 (fourteen years ago) link
Unless the audio is off, it seriously doesn't even sound like he's messing around with effects. I mean, I hope I'm wrong, but it really looks like he's just randomly twiddling on the beat and occasionally "cueing" a new sample, but he does it a little late a couple times!
― mh, Thursday, 25 March 2010 03:10 (fourteen years ago) link
Again, someone please inform us on what he SHOULD be doing during a live set.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 25 March 2010 04:27 (fourteen years ago) link
How about somebody explain High Places live. Nothing I saw really seemed to match what I heard. I am aware of my ignorance about his equipment and am seriously curious, not just looking for an argument.
― Evan, Thursday, 25 March 2010 04:35 (fourteen years ago) link
It's fine if that's all he does to play his set, but the grandstanding and over the top knob twists annoy me.
― brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 25 March 2010 05:30 (fourteen years ago) link
why not just bill himself as a dj? then he can just play his own records, including a few unreleased remixes on cdr, plus that nsfw video, plus throw in a few trax by other people?
alternately he could a) get himself a theramin, learn to play it, b) set up a loop player or two and throw random rhythmic sounds played live on a spatula or tin can or whatever, bring them in and out of the mix, c) bring along his fave guest instrumentalist to add some live vibe, d) throw in some live keys every once in a while (or even build up tracks from semi-scratch, again via looping program) or e) or play live drums if he can - this worked great for the ting-ting's live show (no really, i saw them last year and they had a great live show considering how many canned elements there were to each song, simply on the strength of the programmer dude being a v. passable drummer and the energy that brought to the set)
the filter twiddling has it's place in electronica live pa's (it's sort of the equivalent of the cliched pick scratch at the end of a guitar solo) but does make for a pretty stale show if that's all you're ever doing on stage
― messiahwannabe, Thursday, 25 March 2010 05:45 (fourteen years ago) link
in that flylo clip above it's a track from 'los angeles', but massively re-worked (new synth lines, tempo changes, etc.). so maybe he prepared it all ahead of time, but at least it's new shit designed for the live show.
― rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Thursday, 25 March 2010 16:27 (fourteen years ago) link
folks could just say "his music sounds great in a club with a good sound system" instead of "he is great live"
― guammls (QE II), Thursday, 25 March 2010 21:03 (fourteen years ago) link
Well, the music does sound great, yes, but it's also about the *show* -- and whether he is twiddling knobs, creating new beats on the fly or something in between, he's a great performer and plays a very engaging set.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Thursday, 25 March 2010 21:07 (fourteen years ago) link
Can we talk about the album?
"Table Tennis" is also great
― Shin Oliva Suzuki, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 11:52 (fourteen years ago) link
so if the version I downloaded has a female robot voice saying at the beginning of "A Cosmic Drama" that "this is a compilation of beats completed july 2005" then it's probably not the real album huh?
I kind of hope this isn't the real album, it's kind of boring
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 22:52 (fourteen years ago) link
listening to this flying lotus streaming thing now: http://flying-lotus.com/radio
he's got stephen bruner (dude who kills it on the nu-amerykah records) jamming along on bass. he's bad, but if he's all over cosmogramma then i can see why whiney made the sub-squarepusher crack (which seemed o_O).
― emotional radiohead whatever (Jordan), Tuesday, 20 April 2010 22:30 (fourteen years ago) link
i cant make up my mind about this album. its so all over the shop that its hard to latch on to any of it. but it does that approach better than hudson mohawke for instance, who just made a mess of his album. that first track with all the manic synth squiggles seems to be from some other track though that i cant quite think of. anyone know? its bugging me.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 28 April 2010 14:03 (fourteen years ago) link
i don't know, i think that it has an identifiable sound that encompasses a lot of different shit (the usual beats & synths, bleeps, strings, the free jazz snippets).
that said i wasn't blown away on first listen like i was hoping, but it's growing.
― emotional radiohead whatever (Jordan), Wednesday, 28 April 2010 17:56 (fourteen years ago) link
btw track 2 is the only squarepusher-y thing on the record
― emotional radiohead whatever (Jordan), Wednesday, 28 April 2010 17:57 (fourteen years ago) link
so he now has set up his own label : brainfeeder (which ninjatune are going to dist. in the uk)i was not overly impressed with the flying lotus album, but the lorn album, nothing else, thats coming out on his label is very good.less twisting and turning glitch beats a la p73, more of a flow.and at only 33 minutes, doesn't outstay its welcome,also, sounds great. which is probably why it has 'mastered by clark' clearly shown on the basic artwork.
― mark e, Friday, 30 April 2010 08:52 (fourteen years ago) link
Loving "Cosmogramma", particularly the increased jazz elements. It feels like a cohesive album, something I don't at all need or necessarily look for. I was a big fan of "Los Angeles" but feel like I'm on my way to liking this even more.
― matt2, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 01:15 (fourteen years ago) link
Picked this up, listened once... like it fine, can tell it's gonna be a big "grower" over the course of the year.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 01:26 (fourteen years ago) link
Okay Cosmogramma is 17 different kinds of awesome, but right now I can't get enough of "German Haircut".
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 6 May 2010 03:24 (fourteen years ago) link
i like it more & notice more detail every time i listen to it
― emotional radiohead whatever (Jordan), Thursday, 6 May 2010 03:29 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, "German Haircut" is great. Honestly, the only track I could do without is "Table Tennis" and that's because of the vocals. At least it reminded me of this awesomeness:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQOKys_pN2c
― matt2, Thursday, 6 May 2010 14:25 (fourteen years ago) link
Does anyone know what the guitar sample in 'dance of the psuedo nymphs', sorta sounds like one of the songs from 'the wicker man' soundtrack.
― Roger Sánchez Broto (vain_bowers), Sunday, 9 May 2010 16:03 (fourteen years ago) link
First half of first listen is underwhelming. Sonically this is very brash, when these elements ought to be dealt with a little more... carefully? He loses things in the mix. Maybe it'll reveal with more lessons. Mind you vie come at this after tbd Steve Mason, which is fucking beautiful.
― No, YOU'RE a disgusting savage (Scik Mouthy), Sunday, 9 May 2010 18:32 (fourteen years ago) link
Lessons = listens.
Wall Street Journal sez: Flying Lotus Soars
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Monday, 10 May 2010 02:37 (fourteen years ago) link
So this album is really excellent. When the scatting comes in on Do The Astral Plane straight form MmmHmm, my heart puts on a pair of shades. Very special.
― Davek (davek_00), Tuesday, 11 May 2010 14:02 (fourteen years ago) link
its very special. though id have liked some of the tracks to be more developed.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 11 May 2010 15:30 (fourteen years ago) link
This is sounding great, I like that each track is only a couple of minutes long, nothing outstays its welcome.
― Matt DC, Monday, 17 May 2010 21:54 (fourteen years ago) link
genuinely excited to see how he maps these parameters to knobs in ableton live
― like a musical album. made by a band. (fucking in the streets), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 03:13 (fourteen years ago) link
On second listen it's fantastic, it's the textures and the bombastic film soundtrack strings threaded through everything that really make it for me. I'm trying to work out what this sounds like a superior version of - maybe Amon Tobin's Supermodified?
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 09:40 (fourteen years ago) link
it does kinda remind me of ninja tune ish stuff, cinematic orchestra, etc that kind of thing, just better and more fluid and more expansive, somehow more authoritative (and well just more american).
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 09:47 (fourteen years ago) link
So, the review in The Wire seemed to think this was brilliant, or had the potential to be brilliant, but it was kind of a mess. Tempted to get it, but I'll probably read another review and listen to a few more tunes first.
― ksh, Thursday, 20 May 2010 14:42 (fourteen years ago) link
It's awesome. Does take a few spins to really sink in, though.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Thursday, 20 May 2010 14:44 (fourteen years ago) link
Sweet. Review made it sound appealing -- the song or two I've heard so far were definitely different from what I usually listen to, but I'm intrigued.
― ksh, Thursday, 20 May 2010 14:57 (fourteen years ago) link
It is kind of a mess. The first listen, it's totally overwhelming and "eep, what is this disjointed load of jazzwank!?!??!?" but somewhere around Mmmhmm it starts to make more sense. And so you listen again, and then you start seeing all the patterns and kind of spiderweb connections and then you listen again and then it's all WOW ACTUALLY THIS IS AMAZING that this thing that started out seeming like random noise flips and becomes a beautiful incredibly intricate lacelike web.
― The Curve Of Blinding Energy (Masonic Boom), Thursday, 20 May 2010 17:40 (fourteen years ago) link
Precisely.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Thursday, 20 May 2010 17:45 (fourteen years ago) link
think it's cuz he smokes a lot of weed
― just sayin, Thursday, 20 May 2010 17:54 (fourteen years ago) link
Oh man, great post Masonic Boom! Bought this like an hour or two ago at the rekkid store. Can't wait to get into it more.
― ksh, Thursday, 20 May 2010 17:54 (fourteen years ago) link
Did he really sample his mother's life support machine? I can't work out if that's moving or sociopathic.
― The Men Who Stare At Goatse (Matt DC), Thursday, 27 May 2010 14:12 (fourteen years ago) link