that's kind of like saying "hipsters go to Will Ferrell movies, therefore Will Ferrell is a hipster phenomenon"
― fucka washa hat (some dude), Monday, 12 April 2010 00:48 (fourteen years ago) link
having read through several of the long icp/juggalo related threads i'm still rly unsure what to make of them
beyond 'the fact' of their transitory meme life there's obviously something there, but it seems like they've bequeathed a culture that thrives without them? like if icp vanished the thing would go on somehow, and some other business would organize, or the juggalos wd self organize rhizomatically
― nakhchivan, Monday, 12 April 2010 00:49 (fourteen years ago) link
on the contrary, i think they're a cottage industry unto themselves in part BECAUSE they're smart businessmen and know how to merchandise and service their fans. they're like the new Kiss, makeup and all.
― fucka washa hat (some dude), Monday, 12 April 2010 00:51 (fourteen years ago) link
and btw i don't really think what they do is that remarkable or unusual, once you look past how crazy the whole ICP thing is. i mean, 311 have a similarly enduring cult and huge annual events, etc., the refugees of the '90s that have survived in this way are always kind of surprising and often horribly uncool.
― fucka washa hat (some dude), Monday, 12 April 2010 00:55 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.campbisco.net/
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 12 April 2010 00:56 (fourteen years ago) link
sure xp, and one of the rationalizations the icp could use is that if they didn't run the show someone else would
in this sense icp could be avatars of ameriolative capitalism, like anthony giddens or something
it wouldn't just disappear without icp, they're probably getting terrible abuse on juggalo boards right now for the miracles vid/song anyway
― nakhchivan, Monday, 12 April 2010 00:57 (fourteen years ago) link
ameliorative (lol
― nakhchivan, Monday, 12 April 2010 00:58 (fourteen years ago) link
this doesn't seem to be just a 90s nostalgia thing, the 2009 'gathering' apparently had more people than ever before
― nakhchivan, Monday, 12 April 2010 01:01 (fourteen years ago) link
and give us the highlight reel
"That's hardcore wrestling.""That derives from Japan, that's been around forever, we didn't make that up.""You can take a baseball bat, wrapped in duct tape, rolled in thumbtacks, and spanked across somebody's naked scrotum, know what I'm sayin'? We could go on and on."
― Adam Bruneau, Monday, 12 April 2010 01:03 (fourteen years ago) link
LOL 5 minutes in it becomes clear the next room is blasting Beyonce
― Adam Bruneau, Monday, 12 April 2010 01:05 (fourteen years ago) link
So awesome. At 9 minutes in Bashir reads an example of one of their 'romance' lyrics and starts laughing, and then everyone starts laughing, and he is told by a man wearing clown make up "See, you're laughing, how can you take this shit seriously?"
― Adam Bruneau, Monday, 12 April 2010 01:10 (fourteen years ago) link
by mentioning that someone whose mainstream profile peaked in the 90s has enjoyed a devoted following since then i was in no way attributing that to "90s nostalgia" fwiw
― fucka washa hat (some dude), Monday, 12 April 2010 01:10 (fourteen years ago) link
They are really pretty down to earth guys who just see their art in the same vein as the lowest-common-denominator entertainment they love (wrestling, horror movies, etc.).
― Adam Bruneau, Monday, 12 April 2010 01:14 (fourteen years ago) link
"There are plenty of great, hidden, underlying messages that take years to decipher."
― Adam Bruneau, Monday, 12 April 2010 01:20 (fourteen years ago) link
no that's right xp, and of course the nostalgia audience will often increase with time in any case, but the juggalo thing evidently both endures with older gens and speaks to kids with no cultural memory/assocations with that time
not sure i'd liken it to people following 311 or whatever, they may be as numerous but not as committed in most instances, and 311 is more anachronistically nineties whereas the juggalo thing sort of seems to exist outside of normal pop cultural time now?
― nakhchivan, Monday, 12 April 2010 01:31 (fourteen years ago) link
oh god bashir is such a tool in this interview
― GREAT JOB Mushroom head (gbx), Monday, 12 April 2010 01:34 (fourteen years ago) link
I see hatchetman stickers and ICP shirts on enough cars and people that I never really bat an eyelash, but the other day I saw a huge 311 sticker in the back window of a car and did a huge double take, like the fact that someone was still manufacturing giant window-size 311 stickers is just crazy. I didn't know they were still around.
― joygoat, Monday, 12 April 2010 02:23 (fourteen years ago) link
is that guy fieri?― ✌.✰|ʘ‿ʘ|✰.✌ (Steve Shasta), Friday, April 9, 2010 2:09 AM (2 days ago) Bookmark
― ✌.✰|ʘ‿ʘ|✰.✌ (Steve Shasta), Friday, April 9, 2010 2:09 AM (2 days ago) Bookmark
http://content2.myyearbook.com/zenhex/images/quiz39/190983/190983_res1_ViolentJ.jpghttp://www.shoppingblog.com/pics/guy_fieri_roadshow.jpg
― LaMonte, Monday, 12 April 2010 02:58 (fourteen years ago) link
311 have a similarly enduring cult and huge annual events, etc.,
― fucka washa hat (some dude), Sunday, April 11, 2010 8:55 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
whaaa rly
― ice cr?m, Monday, 12 April 2010 03:17 (fourteen years ago) link
btw totally disgusted w/yr alls attempted rehab of icps image here, cant trick me
― ice cr?m, Monday, 12 April 2010 03:21 (fourteen years ago) link
it's true, 311 is bigger than ever. this is coming to my area soon: Unity Tour 2010 / 311 & The Offspring with special guests Pepper (excerpt from gig description: 311 are touring behind their 2009 studio release, Uplifter - the highest charting 311 album ever, debuting at #3. 311’s reputation as a renowned live band has grown steadily along with their catalog of modern rock hits – including ”Down,” “All Mixed Up,” “Amber,” “Come Original,” “Beautiful Disaster” and “Love Song.”)also coming to my area: Insane Clown Posse with Kottonmouth Kings, Coolio, Kittie, Necro plus Juggalo Clown Wrestling
― tylerw, Monday, 12 April 2010 03:23 (fourteen years ago) link
amber is the color of your energy, woah oh
― ksh, Monday, 12 April 2010 03:23 (fourteen years ago) link
this is fucked up news abt 311
― ice cr?m, Monday, 12 April 2010 03:24 (fourteen years ago) link
hate to be the bearer of fucked up news. the world is a crazy place.
― tylerw, Monday, 12 April 2010 03:25 (fourteen years ago) link
hahah tell me the offspring have a similar cult around them
― fuck in rainbows, ☔ (dyao), Monday, 12 April 2010 03:27 (fourteen years ago) link
magic all up in this crazy bitch
― ice cr?m, Monday, 12 April 2010 03:27 (fourteen years ago) link
The Offspring are currently in the studio working on the follow-up to their heralded Rise And Fall, Rage And Grace album, which featured the alternative and rock radio staples “Hammerhead” and “You¹re Gonna Go Far, Kid.” The band will take a break from the studio to hit the road and debut some new material along with their classic hits. The band are known best for their modern rock anthems including “Self Esteem,” “Come Out And Play (Keep ‘Em Separated)” and “The Kids Aren¹t Alright.”
― tylerw, Monday, 12 April 2010 03:29 (fourteen years ago) link
writing pretty fly out of history
― tbrrprint (2) HD (zvookster), Monday, 12 April 2010 03:29 (fourteen years ago) link
Musical Style
Various writers and critics define 311 by a number of genres. They are generally known as an alternative rock band, but they are also classified as rap rock, rap metal, funk rock, funk metal, ska punk, reggae and jazz fusion.
― ice cr?m, Monday, 12 April 2010 03:31 (fourteen years ago) link
amber is more black metal imo
― ksh, Monday, 12 April 2010 03:32 (fourteen years ago) link
i don't really like to hate on bands, but 311's version of "Lovesong" killed a little part of me.
― tylerw, Monday, 12 April 2010 03:33 (fourteen years ago) link
don't know if this has been noted but ;_;"Over the past 30 years, ICP has released more than 23 albums, including more than 10 RIAA certifications and the Billboard Top 200’s longest running hip-hop record."
― tylerw, Monday, 12 April 2010 03:36 (fourteen years ago) link
ICP > amber metal
― jerk orbison (another al3x), Monday, 12 April 2010 03:51 (fourteen years ago) link
campbisco OTM
― steev reich (Curt1s Stephens), Monday, 12 April 2010 05:47 (fourteen years ago) link
― fucka washa hat (some dude), Sunday, April 11, 2010 7:48 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
wasnt this the nature of many whiney arguments i.e. gucci mane, kevin smith, icp etc.
― The BoyBoy Big HOO$ (deej), Monday, 12 April 2010 05:54 (fourteen years ago) link
"i saw someone talking about it on ilx -- hipsters must be all over it"
In the last month I ran into someone from the band B00gie Boarder rocking a FREE GUCCI shirt, and saw a house party in Austin where BL1SSED 0UT ran a gucci song through a distortion pedal as partnof his set, so continue to STFU deej
― estela artois (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 12 April 2010 06:05 (fourteen years ago) link
can we just talk about how prophetic i was my making this display name a mere 4 hours ago
― deejus, get off the whiney weingarten penis (J0rdan S.), Monday, 12 April 2010 06:06 (fourteen years ago) link
snap goin ham
― fuck in rainbows, ☔ (dyao), Monday, 12 April 2010 06:09 (fourteen years ago) link
ok admittedly I am running on low sleep so it's not really a major accomplishment to make me lol pretty hard but still "deejus, get off the whiney weingarten penis" is A+ lols imo
― Twink Will Ferrell (J0hn D.), Monday, 12 April 2010 06:13 (fourteen years ago) link
also, last time i checked, deej lived in a town where people still listen to post-rock, so dude prolly shouldn't step to me about hipsters
― estela artois (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 12 April 2010 06:16 (fourteen years ago) link
http://twitter.com/1000TimesYes/status/11952196866
Whiney WEEPING FOR THE UNDERDOG in this bitch
― fucka washa hat (some dude), Monday, 12 April 2010 06:24 (fourteen years ago) link
it was so, so hard not to post this response to the zing thread
http://twitter.com/ichlugebullets/status/11952796043
― deejus, get off the whiney weingarten penis, before i sb and bust (J0rdan S.), Monday, 12 April 2010 06:25 (fourteen years ago) link
zings from beyond the grave
― estela artois (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 12 April 2010 06:26 (fourteen years ago) link
last time i checked, deej lived in a town called doo doo eater ville where only stupid people live, and they eat their doo doo, so dude prolly shouldn't step to me about hipsters
― steev reich (Curt1s Stephens), Monday, 12 April 2010 06:27 (fourteen years ago) link
XD
― estela artois (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 12 April 2010 06:31 (fourteen years ago) link
ayo whiney do you really consider all the lols "bashing"? ICP 1) know they're funny 2) are being funny on purpose - it's possible to say "this shit is hilarious" and still not be laughing meanspiritedly imo
like that bashir interview afaic dudes come off like enviably together ppl w/their priorities straight, and that's been the word on them for years - at instore signings, they hang around until the last fan's gotten his hand shaken even if it takes 8 hours etc - 100% sincerely think these guys are awesome, also think it's fair to laugh at guys IN CLOWN MAKEUP.
― Twink Will Ferrell (J0hn D.), Monday, 12 April 2010 06:32 (fourteen years ago) link
guys who write songs like "I Stab People"
― Twink Will Ferrell (J0hn D.), Monday, 12 April 2010 06:36 (fourteen years ago) link
I could kind of understand Whiney getting his panties in a bunch about some of the other ICP threads that turned into LOLz @ fatjuggalo.jpg for large stretches, but this one is straight up homage.
― Fetchboy, Monday, 12 April 2010 06:36 (fourteen years ago) link
i guess its not the bashing its just the overarching vibe that we're definitely "looking down" on a subculture vastly inferior to ours.
I mean can i just
"I spun her around and licked her face/She screamed, hit me with a can of mace"
vs.
"I fell in love with the first cute girl that I met who could appreciate Georges Bataille/Standing at Swedish festival discussing "Story of the Eye"
― estela artois (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 12 April 2010 06:37 (fourteen years ago) link