The song is funny—imagine Wordsworth gone rock-rap, dropping f-bombs aplenty in praise of the natural sublime.
i think you are describing this thread, slate dude
― pretty girl, filking a clown (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:45 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm gonna fess up and say if I ever knew how magnets worked exactly, I don't remember how. I do remember wondering why magnets don't decay over time.(for example, you can rub a paper clip with a magnet which will make it temporarily magnetic as well -- but why doesn't the magnet lose its magnetism [perhaps more slowly] as well?)
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:45 (fourteen years ago) link
Fukkin stock market how does that work?
― I Smell Xasthur Williams (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:46 (fourteen years ago) link
did wonder whether the slate person might have read this thread xxp
― nakhchivan, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:47 (fourteen years ago) link
haha I started reading that "how magnets work" link and let me assure you, MN public schools did not go into that level of detail, not even in middle school
― HI DERE, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:48 (fourteen years ago) link
no one itt has stepped up to describe how magnets work
iirc: magnetic force is due to moving electrical charges; a linear magnetic force is produced when electrical charge moves in a circular direction; therefore the electron orbitals of each atom produce tiny magnetic forces as they orbit the atom; magnetic metals are magnetic because in those metals the electron orbitals can easily line up in the same direction, and the billions of atom-sized magnets thus work together to produce a huge force. it's kind of a miracle when u think about it
xposts
― róisin bran (Curt1s Stephens), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:50 (fourteen years ago) link
looooooool earlier today i did quip 'fucking banks.....*pause*....how do they work'
this is the meme of '10 whether we like it or not
― pretty girl, filking a clown (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:50 (fourteen years ago) link
as someone unfamiliar with any wider icp eschatology 'miracles' just seems shorthand for the sort of 'look at the carpark' strain of weak optimism that's more or less nondenominational, maybe it is more sinister but the song alone is insufficient evidence
― nakhchivan, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:51 (fourteen years ago) link
so can I maybe put forward the opinon that you might be taking this a tad too seriously, Jenny, or will you bite my head off
Since you asked so nicely, I will address your concern without biting your head off.
I'm not taking this seriously to the point that I'm thinking about the impact of ICP's teachings and philosophy on the Youth of America when I am not actively engaged in this thread. I'm mostly presenting that argument as a counterpoint to your defense (if it even rises to the level of a defense - maybe it's just an opposing point of view? I don't want to ascribe more ICP-related enthusiasm to your posts that you actually intend) that ICP are actually smart dudes. To sum up my response using fewer words: their regressive world view belies any actual intelligence that they may have.
Some of my apparent passion is probably coming from a TED talk I watched last night about pretty much that very subject (regressive thinking re: science, not ICP, although I would probably watch a TED talk by or about ICP, too). It was mostly in the context of anti-GMO food activists and vaccine deniers, but the common thread is this idea that scientists are liars who are not to be trusted.
― she is writing about love (Jenny), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:52 (fourteen years ago) link
In short, I stan for scientists.
TS, which is deeper: ICP "Miracles" vs. Joanna Newsom HOOM.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:53 (fourteen years ago) link
ICP are exactly the kinds of speakers TED invites!Dean Kamen and Violent J tag-team powerpointing on segways.
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:54 (fourteen years ago) link
[btw oops sorry -- searched the thread for "slate" before posting but not "weiner" for obvious reasons]
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:54 (fourteen years ago) link
Someone needs to take a Joanna Newsom lyric (something from Ys?) and ICP-ify, stat.
ksh... c'mon buddy.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:54 (fourteen years ago) link
no
― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:55 (fourteen years ago) link
Oh I guess I was also responding to some comments that were kind of in the vein of "making fun of ICP is an elitist thing to do." I'm not making fun of them for their music or their weight or their aesthetic, but I do think there are elements of their schtick that are legitimately worth looking at critically, and the anti-science element is one that stood out the most for me as far as this particular song goes.
― she is writing about love (Jenny), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:55 (fourteen years ago) link
to me, the best thing i've read about the song's "real" pov was the slate article--it's just some dudes, smokin stuff, thinkin' about rainbows. it's not any more complicated than that.
I stan for scientists, too. I also think that ICP use any smarts they have primarily for:
- making money- getting people who would normally be bitter, angry reactionaries to be nice to each other and many of those around them
...so, as such, I kind of don't care if they're particularly regressive in their thinking on questions like magnets because it's wholly secondary to why they exist, namely to get paid.
― don't you steal my Sunstein (HI DERE), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:56 (fourteen years ago) link
oh fuck me, I just used "stan" as a verb
add a d to stan, you're a mod!
― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:57 (fourteen years ago) link
I really should
― don't you steal my Sunstein (HI DERE), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:57 (fourteen years ago) link
"- getting people who would normally be bitter, angry reactionaries to be nice to each other and many of those around them"
is this true? I do agree ICP's popularity is a mark of Michigan's failure to reach out in terms of jobs/education or whatever where something like ICP scoops them up and fills in the void.
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:59 (fourteen years ago) link
is this true?
have you read, like, any of the links or articles posted on this thread or on other threads on ILX, or listened to an extended amount of their music
― don't you steal my Sunstein (HI DERE), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 18:01 (fourteen years ago) link
Had a 'Miracles' moment while walking the dogs last week tbh. It was really windy and I blurted to my wife 'What IS wind? What is this STUFF which is hitting my hand right now?!?!"
― I Smell Xasthur Williams (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 18:02 (fourteen years ago) link
i've read a fair bit of the articles and threads, haven't listened to the music (or amazingly this video because it sounds amazing!)
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 18:03 (fourteen years ago) link
why are you here
― GREAT JOB Mushroom head (gbx), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 18:06 (fourteen years ago) link
it's a miracle!
― don't you steal my Sunstein (HI DERE), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 18:07 (fourteen years ago) link
... was bashfully hoping for an explanation of magnets...
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 18:09 (fourteen years ago) link
(the circular electricity explanation is great, don't get me wrong, but I always thought it might have to do with missing valence electrons or something)
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 18:10 (fourteen years ago) link
y'all motherfuckers lyin, & gettin me pissed
― tylerw, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 18:13 (fourteen years ago) link
What up, ninja, with facepaint brightIn the Gathering late at nightWhat miracle hand or eyeCould frame thy clownface symmetry?
In what fucking deeps or skiesBurns fire like Faygo when it gets in thine eyes?With what miracle that would shock thine eyelids?Dare not a scientist explain me this fire
When fucking magnets started to work,And fucking rainbows came after it rained,Did he smile to be down with the clown?Did He who made the Juffalo make thee?
― ksb2, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 18:15 (fourteen years ago) link
d the anti-science element is one that stood out the most for me as far as this particular song goes.
― she is writing about love (Jenny), Tuesday, April 13, 2010
isn't "fukkin magnets / how do they work?" kinda yr Scientific Project in a nutshell?
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 18:17 (fourteen years ago) link
atoms with missing electrons are probably more likely to experience an electrical force than a magnetic force due to the charge imbalance
― róisin bran (Curt1s Stephens), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 18:24 (fourteen years ago) link
the Juffalo! ksb2 <3
― Ponies are horse children (Abbott), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 18:25 (fourteen years ago) link
intial qn: fukkin magnets how do they work?observation: fukken magnetshypothesis: its a miracleperform experiment: fuck scientistsanalyze experiment: ur getting me pissedconclusion: juggalo 4 lyfe
― Lamp, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 18:26 (fourteen years ago) link
I would like Eminem to peer review this.
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 18:28 (fourteen years ago) link
showdown!
http://toyscouter.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Magneto-action-figure.jpghttp://image.grindstore.com/product/21584-1-400x400.jpg
― women are a bunch of dudes (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 18:58 (fourteen years ago) link
And ICP, you can get stomped by MobyYou 30-something year old bald headed clowns, blow meYou don't know me, you're too oldLet it go, it's over, nobody cares about Faygo
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 18:59 (fourteen years ago) link
Wait I think he's actually rapped about ICP, I mean they're from the same town.
― Ponies are horse children (Abbott), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 22:51 (fourteen years ago) link
I am dropping some shocking news, I know.
― Ponies are horse children (Abbott), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 22:52 (fourteen years ago) link
Faggot 2 Dope and Silent Gay. Claimin Detroit, when y'all live twenty miles away
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 22:56 (fourteen years ago) link
Leonard Cohen's Violent J of Arc
Now the feathers they circled Violent J,As he came riding through Frisco Bay;No juggaloes to keep his Faygo safe,No ninjas to get him through this very frenzied strafe.He said, I’m tired of the whores,I want the kind of naden I had before,A juggalette or something tight,To satisfy my swollen appetite.
Well, I’m glad to see you come this way,And I see that you've brought fish todayBut something in me yearns to winsomething more from that psycho clown grin.Who the fuck are you? J fiercely spitAn Angel? A Demon? Some Magical shit?Why, I’m a pelican, it replied,And I'd love some of your food, if you'd abide.
A talking bird! That's fukkin sweet!I’m gonna give you fish to eat,Saying this he fetched his phoneTo get it on film, so Shaggy's brains would be fukkin blown.And deep into his demon pouchHe took ahold a luscious trout,While up above, the bird's descentquickened it t'wards its true intent.
It was deep within his fiery heartthat J received a sudden start,And thus the truth was clearly shownBitch bird was tryin' to eat his phone!In trembling fear he ran away,But still ponders such miracles to this day.Water, Fire, Air and Dirt,Fuckin magnets, how do they work?
― Fetchboy, Wednesday, 14 April 2010 12:42 (fourteen years ago) link
"We have tested and tasted too much, lover Through a chink too wide there comes in no wonder"(Patrick Kavanagh - Advent)
"Just to dig it all and not to wonder, that's just fine And I'll be satisfied not to read between the lines"(Van Morrison - Sweet Thing)
"Let everyone debate the true reality I’d rather see the world the way it used to be"(Goffin & King - Goin' Back)
"And I don't wanna talk to a scientist Y'all motherfuckers lying"(Insane Clown Posse - Miracles)
― fukkin magnets (ecuador_with_a_c), Wednesday, 14 April 2010 21:34 (fourteen years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/Ji8Uh.jpg
― joygoat, Thursday, 15 April 2010 05:50 (fourteen years ago) link
Apparently not a lot of entries into the Regional Lying Motherfukkin Science Fair.
― Ponies are horse children (Abbott), Thursday, 15 April 2010 06:03 (fourteen years ago) link
snl did a 'parody' of this last night. it was the same damn video.
― Fellini.Kuti, Sunday, 18 April 2010 19:01 (fourteen years ago) link
^ link: http://www.hulu.com/watch/143249/saturday-night-live-outrageous-clown-squad-kickspit-dirt-festival#s-p2-sr-i1
― in movie 2001 resurrect thread on planet jupiter (Pillbox), Sunday, 18 April 2010 19:43 (fourteen years ago) link
The Connecticut Joint Chapters of the IEEE Microwave Theory & Techniques Society, Antenna & Propagation, Ultrasonics, Ferroelectrics and Frequency Control Society and the IEEE Student Branch at UCONN are presenting a lecture on: The Design of Electromagnetic Products by Dr. R@tnajeevan H0ole of RPI’s Graduate Center in Hartford, CT Abstract: The design of electromagnetic products has shifted from the guess-make-test-check-revise cycle of the period up to the 1960s, to the guess-analyze-check-revise cycle of the 1980s, to today’s state of the art methods of designing as a one step process. The several months’ long process in creating a device design is today down significantly. These new powerful one-shot design methods apply equally to the design of transistors, waveguides, antennae, electric machinery, recording systems and much more. Optimization remains at the very core of the methodology. However, these elegant methods require an expert who can come up with the starting design that, once postulated, can then be optimized.
Abstract: The design of electromagnetic products has shifted from the guess-make-test-check-revise cycle of the period up to the 1960s, to the guess-analyze-check-revise cycle of the 1980s, to today’s state of the art methods of designing as a one step process. The several months’ long process in creating a device design is today down significantly. These new powerful one-shot design methods apply equally to the design of transistors, waveguides, antennae, electric machinery, recording systems and much more. Optimization remains at the very core of the methodology. However, these elegant methods require an expert who can come up with the starting design that, once postulated, can then be optimized.
will go and report back
― my two percent's worth (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 20 April 2010 14:12 (fourteen years ago) link
Um guys:http://sonorareview.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/he-ran-away.gif?w=240&h=240
― hills like white people (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 20 April 2010 15:26 (fourteen years ago) link
"the whole world's got ten thousand people"
― HORS D'OEUVRES (Curt1s Stephens), Tuesday, 20 April 2010 16:50 (fourteen years ago) link