hate the dude obv, but that burzum album is just unquestionably amazing
― Matt Daemon (jjjusten), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 19:05 (fourteen years ago) link
If I have my way, I will never hear that album for as long as I live.
― it means "EMOTIONAL"! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 19:08 (fourteen years ago) link
Would like to see Unwound place but I'll be surprised if they make it. I already helped the American indie rockist cause with votes for the Grifters, Slint and Unrest (ffrr, not Perfect Teeth).
― drench, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 19:09 (fourteen years ago) link
in defense of SUPERCONDUCTOR and their HIT SONGS FOR GIRLS
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this seems to be an album that no one else gives a shit about. i've played it for friends a number of times over the years, and no one's ever been as crazy about it as i am. and i don't like the follow-up (bastardsong), and i don't like the goddam new pornographers. i just like HIT SONGS FOR GIRLS. the basic gist is ridiculously catchy pop/metal/prog tunes with nerd-shouted nonsense strewn overtop, played blown-out style by a standard rock combo augmented w five extra guitars. in that sense, it's the anti-unrest, relative to nabisco's brilliant defense of that band: splattery, aggro and and artlessly maximalist to the core. thing is, in spite of all those sightline-obscuring piles of hairball guitar, it's a pop at heart, albeit of a hypercaffeinated, buzz-bombing variety (hallo super furry animals!). though it's far more noisy and chaotic, it often anticipates weezer's blue album, taking the bulk of its cues from 70s & 80s power pop & cheeze metal hitmakers and running them through the indie ironizer. i guess i'm avoiding the g-word here. i don't want to call it a grunge record cuz it's so unlike any other grunge record i can think of, but i've gotta admit that the basic sonic template (popped-out NOISE RAWK) does seem to place somewhere it in that camp. superconductor reedem themselves, though, by never trying to convince you that the angst and aggression are "authentic". the album's got a giant smirk on its face the whole way through, and that makes the paint-peeling histrionics infinitely more palatable.
in the end, i love this record mostly because it's an unbroken wall of absolutely fantastic pop songs, each one its own little wall of hooks. as cartoonish heavy pop, i think it's every bit as consistent as the best of cheap trick, redd kross or weezer. and it's a goddam crime that almost no one's ever heard it [shakes withered fist at the uncaring heavens]. most of the problem, i think, is that it's loud as unholy hell and came out on boner records. it was therefore never gonna sell outside a tiny, bong-damaged punk & metal niche that it didn't really belong in. i mean, it may have seemed to belong there, and i can see why it might appeal to pop-friendly melvins and steel pole bath tub fans. the crucial difference is that, in superconductor's case, the heavy gnarly shit isn't the primary point. instead, it's a kind of theatrical disguise, but to my mind, it's a disguise that enhances rather than diminishing the pop underneath. like, i dunno, like kiss. like the knights in satan's service. and i maybe i said this before, but i love this record to death. i've worn out two copies over the years, and haven't yet got tired of it.
INDIE ROCKIST CAUSE UNITE
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 20:10 (fourteen years ago) link
...well, it is "a pop at heart," but it's also a pop record. in case u wonder.
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 20:11 (fourteen years ago) link
Filosofem got 2 votes, 76 points, and I gave it 75. I can listen to this album forever. I can't really explain why it's so amazing, but the insistent repetition of the fuzzy drudging guitar riffs, the production, and even Varg's singing, make me take pause in my life, reconsider, "Am I black metal enough?" and I quit crying about girls and school, become resolute, and raise the sign:
\m/
― Captain Ahab, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 20:12 (fourteen years ago) link
xp I at least am intrigued by the superconductor based on your advocacy. haven't heard any, but from what you've said it has some of the hallmarks of what was so great about, say, toenut.
― m the g, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 20:15 (fourteen years ago) link
Lets all buy one record we haven't heard based on this thread - would that be cool? I think that would be cool.
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 20:17 (fourteen years ago) link
Many of them can be had for 99 cents or less at your local used cd retailer (if you still have a local used cd retailer).
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 20:18 (fourteen years ago) link
not if that record is Burzum (xp)
― it means "EMOTIONAL"! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 20:19 (fourteen years ago) link
in the case of burzum, I hear stealing is a popular and morally sound alternative these days.
― m the g, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 20:20 (fourteen years ago) link
more on SUPERCONDUTOR
the songwriting and arrangements of the flaming lips circatelepathic surgery and priest driven ambulance = another obvious touchstone for HIT SONGS FOR GIRLS, as there's a touch of neil young's damaged yearning to a lot of the songwriting. plus the mad scientist pop/noise layering. i mean, if you dig the early flaming lips, the beatnik filmstars, weezer or even super furry animals, i should think you'd be able to find a place in your life for EXOCITAS POR LOS CHICAS LISTAS.
i say this because i have no idea what "toenut" means. it sounds gross.
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 20:31 (fourteen years ago) link
make that LAS CHICAS, plus fix other things
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 20:32 (fourteen years ago) link
so that i sound less retarded (this one directed more at God)
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 20:34 (fourteen years ago) link
toenut were a spiffy and short-lived band from atlanta that recorded two great albums then disappeared. based on the touchstones you cite, I think you'd like. grab hold of 'two in the pinata' if you can.
― m the g, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 20:44 (fourteen years ago) link
(again, the 99c bin is your friend here.)
Ha, that's where I bought my Toenut cds. In the 99c bin. (Agreed on their goodness, though!)
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 20:47 (fourteen years ago) link
i think i was the other burzum voter?
i also made a hilarious mistake once where i bought an unrest (or unwound) record thinking i was buying an unsane record. figured that one out pretty quickly.
I voted for Unsane and Unwound and you fucks voted unrest by mistake?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 21:23 (fourteen years ago) link
pretty sure jjjusten and I didn't vote
― it means "EMOTIONAL"! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 21:23 (fourteen years ago) link
Just listening to Unrest for the first time. A great band I might not have heard if it wasn't for this poll.
― I am using your worlds, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 21:29 (fourteen years ago) link
so young gods or front line assembly aren't going to make the poll then?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 21:29 (fourteen years ago) link
sadly no
― it means "EMOTIONAL"! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 21:31 (fourteen years ago) link
i voted for them but only 1 point each
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 21:32 (fourteen years ago) link
I want a full debrief of your nite out, lj
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 22:16 (fourteen years ago) link
watched Spurs with Spurs-supporting friend, ate burger
― Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 23:06 (fourteen years ago) link
so I'm 2/4 for now, pretty sure that at least one of my other choices has no chance in hell of appearing but... my other choice I thought at least Louis would vote for! :(
― the sound of a norwegian guy being wrong (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 23:10 (fourteen years ago) link
The SECOND album by the band you're thinking of would have been in an LJ top 50. That album in an LJ top 100.
― Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 23:16 (fourteen years ago) link
It's OK, I'm gonna vote for their 4th album when we do the 00's poll. You and me versus the world, Shakey :D
― Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 23:17 (fourteen years ago) link
yeh that one is mad underrated
― the sound of a norwegian guy being wrong (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 23:18 (fourteen years ago) link
Good discussion since I last posted, btw. I approve. Keep it up, fellas. The more you can defend your daft choices the better! Ha, just kidding.
― Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 23:24 (fourteen years ago) link
....
― nakhchivan, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 23:37 (fourteen years ago) link
I said it earlier but now I've been drinking I'll say it again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QuiePZbS3I
best fucking single of the decade. if noyd doesn't have you tripping, then you are dead to me (until i sober up and remember people having different sucky tastes not necc. a value of character)
― tart w/ a heart (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 23:45 (fourteen years ago) link
po po comes around and tries to relocate melock me up for ever but they can't deflate me 'causehavin' cash is highly addictiveespecially when you're used to havin' money to live withI thought step back look at my life as a wholeAin't no love it seems the devil done stole my soulI'm out for delfia, selfia, P's not helpin' yaI'm tryna get this Lexus up, and plus a cellular
― tart w/ a heart (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 23:46 (fourteen years ago) link
^^^ otmfm.. didn't participate in this but the infamous is prob my favorite rap album.
― hobbes, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 23:50 (fourteen years ago) link
COMPOSER OF HARDCORE A LYRICAL DESTRUCTOR DON'T MAKE ME BUCK YA COS I'M A WILD MOTHERFUCKER
― tart w/ a heart (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 23:52 (fourteen years ago) link
Got G's in my pocket hit off my main squeezePush back, the sunroof, let the cold air breezethrough the butter soft leather upholestryBut mostly, keep the gat closely, cuz niggaz wanna toast me
― hobbes, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 23:54 (fourteen years ago) link
tt tt tt tt BOOM tt tt tt tt BOOM WORD UP SON, WORD tt tt tt tt BOOM TO ALL THE KILLAS AND HUNDRED DOLLAR BILLAZ tt tt tt tt BOOM TO ALL THE REAL NIGGAZ WHO AIN'T GOT NO FEELINZ
― tart w/ a heart (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 23:55 (fourteen years ago) link
I know I voted 1 record w/ more points than this that will make the poll later and is most prob better but fucking hell atm there is no record better than The Infamous.
― tart w/ a heart (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 23:56 (fourteen years ago) link
I mean fuck a Mozart or Lennon or whatever, P got them shook.
/drunk
― tart w/ a heart (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 23:57 (fourteen years ago) link
you all alone in these streets cousin/ every man for themself in this land we be gunnin'
― tart w/ a heart (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 6 May 2010 00:00 (fourteen years ago) link
srs, not one moment in the last year where infamous or hell on earth weren't in my car. fuck a 9-5 i get the loot with ease
― hobbes, Thursday, 6 May 2010 00:01 (fourteen years ago) link
THERE IS A WAR OUTSIDE NO ONE IS SAFE FROM
― tart w/ a heart (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 6 May 2010 00:01 (fourteen years ago) link
oh man i should go find my copy of hell on earth. also more beer.
Should have gone 40 infamous/ 40 hell on earth/ 40 life after death/ 80 cuban linx, why did i bother voting the fugees or cat power or kmd.
― tart w/ a heart (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 6 May 2010 00:03 (fourteen years ago) link
now that's what i call the 1990s
― hobbes, Thursday, 6 May 2010 00:05 (fourteen years ago) link
please don't reveal what you voted for
― Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Thursday, 6 May 2010 00:07 (fourteen years ago) link
22 Jay-Z - Reasonable Doubt (1996)83 points5 votes0 first-place votesGreatest contributor: samosa gibreel
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There are about 100 ILX threads with "Jay-Z" in the title so kept my ILXsearching real simple like
Strangely enough though, people still don't seem to understand the concept of reasonable doubt.
― deanomgwtf!!!p%3Fmsgid%3D4581997 (deangulberry), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 23:35 (5 years ago)
By the way - I'd say some animal research is done out of pure bloodthirstyness... Harry Harlow showed this beyond any reasonable doubt. He was insane.
― C-Man (C-Man), Monday, 12 January 2004 19:46 (6 years ago)
"The prosecution will show that Kate did, beyond any reasonable doubt, drug and intice this innocaent young man into a bathtub while she pleasured herself in front of him."
― Gold Teeth II (kenan), Monday, 4 October 2004 16:47 (5 years ago)
this all seems reasonable, doubt it will really change 77 at all anyway
― crackers is biters (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 01:13 (1 year ago)
wait also 10 pts for iron man for cappa's winter warz verse. oh and the best mc of the past 15 years i guess. but winter warz!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUAwdXRbyWM
― tart w/ a heart (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 6 May 2010 00:08 (fourteen years ago) link
my bad lj, i think i am cool w/ knowing kmd won't make it doe.
also :DDDDDDDDDDDDD reasonable doubt!
― tart w/ a heart (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 6 May 2010 00:09 (fourteen years ago) link