These "discarded" rarities have me p stoked for the box - £11.99 on Amazon UK is top value for me as I don't have Disintegration in anything other than vinyl & downlooted mp3.
Disintegration has really grown on me in recent years, despite my hissy fit about it beating Faith, Pornography & Seventeen Seconds in the albums poll. I think it might be second behind Pornography for me now.
― this skit is ba-na-nas (onimo), Saturday, 15 May 2010 12:43 (fourteen years ago) link
oh did u say disintegration was better than faith? funny that I can still hear you seeing as how you are DEAD TO ME
― in which we apologize for sobering up (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Saturday, 15 May 2010 12:46 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, I'd take Faith over Pornography I think.
― BLOODY BOLLOCKS HELL! (aldo), Saturday, 15 May 2010 12:55 (fourteen years ago) link
Faith for me as well as the album above all the others. I never tire of it.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 15 May 2010 13:00 (fourteen years ago) link
oh did u say faith was better than all the rest?funny that I can still hear you seeing as how youare NED TO ME
― StanM, Saturday, 15 May 2010 13:18 (fourteen years ago) link
So I assume these outtake, er, outtakes will get officially released at some point, right? Stream-only is like a sucker punch tease.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 15 May 2010 13:46 (fourteen years ago) link
lol no Stan I put Pornography over Faith but to say Faith < Disintegration is still madness to me
tbh though I think I've listened to the Cure exactly once in the past 10 years and am mainly just memory-laneing here for lols
― in which we apologize for sobering up (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Saturday, 15 May 2010 13:51 (fourteen years ago) link
xpost -- No I'm figuring this is it for any kind of formal release. There's the download link above that's posted if you want a rip of the stream.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 15 May 2010 14:17 (fourteen years ago) link
I am still missing the b-sides from those 2 CD Deluxe editions. Yes, I know they are all on "Join The Dots", but they would sort of complete the individual albums had they been included on those second CDs instead of some of those alternative versions or live versions.
― Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Saturday, 15 May 2010 16:45 (fourteen years ago) link
Like Ned says. It's been, what, nine years since they last did a similar streaming microsite of unreleased alt versions, and no sign of a release on those.
(it's a huge shame on this one, if they could have just released Entreat Plus as it's own album!)
― Wang Chung Parliament (sic), Saturday, 15 May 2010 23:37 (fourteen years ago) link
So.. Delirious Night! I love it! I wonder why they didn't do something proper with that?
― piscesx, Sunday, 16 May 2010 23:12 (fourteen years ago) link
Huh? Already? Just got a message, the 3cd has been despatched from universal.co.uk
― StanM, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 12:54 (fourteen years ago) link
Nice!
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 15:14 (fourteen years ago) link
They will be streaming a full live show (Dallas) from that era starting May 24th on that site as well, by the way.
Sadly I don't think this is true - looks like it's just going to be the tracks from Disintegration, rather than the whole show :-( Also it's not streaming yet, anyway.
― toby, Monday, 24 May 2010 10:32 (fourteen years ago) link
Looks like you're right, I hadn't looked at the setlist before. :-(Still, I don't expect it to be bad :-)
― StanM, Monday, 24 May 2010 10:39 (fourteen years ago) link
damn!
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 24 May 2010 11:08 (fourteen years ago) link
Stream's up.
http://www.thecuredisintegration.com/bin/#/dallas/
― StanM, Monday, 24 May 2010 16:55 (fourteen years ago) link
Oh darn, shucks, etc.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 24 May 2010 18:20 (fourteen years ago) link
Complete Dallas show here
― this skit is ba-na-nas (onimo), Monday, 24 May 2010 21:19 (fourteen years ago) link
Thanks for the link. It's an audience recording but there must be a soundboard of that show somewhere.
― brotherlovesdub, Monday, 24 May 2010 22:06 (fourteen years ago) link
download link for the stream, the disintegration album, live in Dallas, 128 kbps:http://www.sendspace.com/file/rpdbws
― StanM, Tuesday, 25 May 2010 19:29 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm not trying to be contrary on purpose, but I think I prefer the alternate rarities to the ones on the actual disc and Dallas to this Entreat Plus mix.
― StanM, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 12:23 (fourteen years ago) link
oh...
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 12:54 (fourteen years ago) link
That alternate rarities link isn't working anymore
― I am using your worlds, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 13:04 (fourteen years ago) link
I ordered this for myself and it somehow became a birthday present from my kids. Now I can't open it for a fortnight :(
making do with the otherarities and the Dallas gig
― this skit is ba-na-nas (onimo), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 13:24 (fourteen years ago) link
New download link here: http://drop.io/AlternativeRarities8889
― StanM, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 15:12 (fourteen years ago) link
this has leaked. be warned that they leak i have found is only at 128, in other words very poor quality.
― Bee OK, Thursday, 27 May 2010 04:29 (fourteen years ago) link
they the
― Bee OK, Thursday, 27 May 2010 04:56 (fourteen years ago) link
By "leaked" do you mean released on CD and vinyl and available for legal download?
― I am using your worlds, Thursday, 27 May 2010 07:03 (fourteen years ago) link
no but it is out:
http://www.thecure.com/blog/default.aspx?nid=26268
YOU CAN GET DISINTEGRATION FROM... Universal Music Official Store:http://store.universal-music.co.uk/restofworld/Artists/The-Cure/icat/thecure i-Tunes:http://itunes.apple.com/gb/preorder/disintegration-special-deluxe/id369066825 Amazon:http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00318EDD8?ie=UTF8&tag=umusiccatalog-21&linkCode=as2&camp=1634&creative=19450&creativeASIN=B00318EDD8 HMV:http://clkuk.tradedoubler.com/click?p=18710&a=1673532&g=280345&url=http://ad.uk.doubleclick.net/clk;209394301;31304475;x?http://hmv.com/hmvweb/displayProductDetails.do?ctx=280;1;-1;-1;-1&sku=13645&affiliate=td&lpgrp=network Play.com:http://playcom.at/universalcatalogue?CTY=37&LID=curebanners&DURL=http://www.play.com/Music/CD/4-/13346175/Disintegration/Product.html?NULL AND LIKELY LOTS OF OTHER PLACES TOO!
you can get it in the US (i will buy it on the release date) on June 8, 2010.
― Bee OK, Thursday, 27 May 2010 07:08 (fourteen years ago) link
This is just SO good. All over again....
― Blue Sky Whine (SeekAltRoute), Monday, 31 May 2010 00:05 (fourteen years ago) link
while we wait for Wish, found this incredible piece about the Cure.
http://www.threeimaginarygirls.com/story/2011mar/looking-back-cure-1991
Relating this to The Cure, they were still riding high on the unanticipated success of Disintegration and looking towards the future with an optimistic perspective. They had everything in their favor at this point...
It is a shame, really, because in early 1991, The Cure were well on their way to making a record that was going to be better than Disintegration. If these songs were not tampered with, Wish could have easily topped its predecessor. They likely chose to change directions because of the arrival of grunge and perhaps a desire to shed their gloomy, Goth image a bit - but this decision was truly tragic. If there is some early version of the record out there, I would love to hear it. The "Wendy Time" demo hints at what could have been, while the instrumental version of "The Big Hand" is shimmeringly beautiful. I hope there's a vocal version of this somewhere in the vaults, and the "Wendy Time" demo reminds me that this band, at that point in time, was merely untouchable.
― World Series champion San Francisco Giants (Bee OK), Sunday, 13 March 2011 07:34 (thirteen years ago) link
Good article, thanks Bee OK. The change in Wendy Time from demo to album is remarkable.
Demo here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0akIgJxehSI
from Town & Country Club gig: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3IVrG8YnEk
― on... imo (onimo), Sunday, 13 March 2011 13:38 (thirteen years ago) link
Interesting. I followed a lot of the links in that article, and I can see why they band sped things up or made the songs more aggressive. Most of the "Wish" tracks benefit from the decision, especially "Cut," IMO. Anyway, looking at clips lead me to this live 1979 version of "A Forest," which is likely, er, "speeded" up, too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SKSL5d7tSY&feature=related
Takes a while for the band to show up.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 13 March 2011 13:49 (thirteen years ago) link
It is a shame, really, because in early 1991, The Cure were well on their way to making a record that was going to be better than Disintegration. If these songs were not tampered with, Wish could have easily topped its predecessor.
it is a shame, really, because in early 2011, threeimaginarygirls.com was well on its way to writing an article that didn't assume everyone believes Disintegration is better than Wish. if this article was not so presumptive, it could have easily said some people prefer Wish to Disintegration.
(i can't say it's *better*, hard to say objectively... Disintegration is certainly more of a piece, etc. but i play Wish more often, and that has to mean something... just sayin')
― thank you ilxor for starting this much needed thread (ilxor), Sunday, 13 March 2011 16:53 (thirteen years ago) link
Of course people can't "objectively" say that but if you're subjectively placing Wish above or beside Disintegration you're in something of a minority.
Best Cure Album (Poll Closes May 25)
1 out of 108 votes, compared with 38 for Disintegration.
― on... imo (onimo), Sunday, 13 March 2011 21:09 (thirteen years ago) link
not saying it's better/above, but saying i listen to it more often-- maybe i prefer it? dunno.
― thank you ilxor for starting this much needed thread (ilxor), Sunday, 13 March 2011 21:33 (thirteen years ago) link
while we wait for Wish
Apparently planning to do "Mixed Up" at first.
― You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Sunday, 13 March 2011 22:20 (thirteen years ago) link
Are they doing Mixed Up still?
I accidentally bought the reissue of Head On The Door twice. I need Three Imaginary Boys, The Top and Kiss Me reissues. Anybody want to swap?
― brotherlovesdub, Sunday, 13 March 2011 22:45 (thirteen years ago) link
"Fiction Records are proud to announce the re-release of the first 5 Cure albums on heavy weight coloured vinyl which have been specially commissioned for Record Store Day on April 21st. Each album will be individually numbered and Limited to 2,500 copies and will also come with a voucher to download the album digitally. This is the first time on vinyl for the remastered versions of the albums which have all been personally remastered by Robert Smith.
― good luck Peeta Mellark (Bee OK), Sunday, 25 March 2012 05:13 (twelve years ago) link
have all been personally remastered by Robert Smith.
what a tragedy for heavy weight vinyl
― ┗|∵|┓ (sic), Sunday, 25 March 2012 07:43 (twelve years ago) link
took me a while to notice this but "Sadicic" on The Top reiussue is an embryo of "Prayers of Rain". Still can't place that recurring guitar riff in that song.
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 6 May 2014 09:21 (ten years ago) link
So, that Wish deluxe edition, then. . . any time you wanna release that there, Rob. Right, then.
― austinato (Austin), Tuesday, 6 May 2014 13:29 (ten years ago) link
He is busy working on a new album that won't come out, either, even though nobody really wants it.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 6 May 2014 14:08 (ten years ago) link
This thread will be a decade old in November and it probably STILL won't be out.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 May 2014 14:14 (ten years ago) link
I just want Mixed Up reissued in a vinyl box with the actual 12" mixes that matter like Primary added to the rest of the original tracklist.
― brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 6 May 2014 17:24 (ten years ago) link
The whole reissue campaign started off so well, I hoped we would be able to march right through the catalog and carch up. But then I remembered that this is The Cure.
― djenter the dragon? (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 6 May 2014 21:35 (ten years ago) link
took me a while to notice this but "Sadicic" on The Top reiussue is an embryo of "Prayers of Rain"
This becomes even more apparent if you listen to the 'Prayers for Rain' early versions.
― austinato (Austin), Thursday, 8 May 2014 02:09 (ten years ago) link
Good catch.
― austinato (Austin), Thursday, 8 May 2014 02:10 (ten years ago) link
So yeah I just listened to The Glove for the first time ever.
1. Holy fuck2. Help3. A Blues in Drag and Orgy are like what I always wish electronic film scores sounded like4. This is almost like having another album by my beloved therapy-damaged 80s artpop losers The Fibonaccis5. Certain tracks on this prefigure the sound of The Knife's Silent Shout to an extent I have heard nowhere else, is it just me?6. Yes
― Khamma chameleon (Jon Lewis), Friday, 16 May 2014 19:37 (ten years ago) link