you wouldn't pick "Sweet Jane" over "Lonesome Cowboy Bill"? really now?
― iatee
Ok, you got me there. 'Lonesome Cowboy Bill' is the one song in this record I tend to skip but had my random vote landed on that one I still wouldn't regret it. This album might just be one of my top ten records of all time, keep loving it more and more each passing year.
― Moka, Thursday, 20 May 2010 03:14 (fourteen years ago) link
This thread reminds me of that fabulous Fall bit:
They couldn't tell Lou Reed from Doug YuleSuppressed hate romance
It was like being back at school
...but anyway, this is my least favourite of the 4 proper VU LPs, which is not to say that I hate it. The clear contender has to be "Rock & Roll," no? I mean, Ginny's life was saved by it, ferfuckssakes. And it was alright. Hard to argue with that.
I do love "New Age" a lot - particularly the version on Live 1969 with different lyrics (It seems to be my fancy/to make it with Frank & Nancy/when over the bridge we go/looking for love). And of course "Sweet Jane," "Oh! Sweet Nuthin'," and "I Found A Reason" are fine. The other songs I came to appreciate more after hearing different mixes etc. on Fully Loaded.
I was introduced to the VU with the closet mix of the 3rd LP 20+ years ago and that will always remain my favourite, though the VU comp runs a close second.
― Kent Burt, Thursday, 20 May 2010 03:21 (fourteen years ago) link
I fuckin' love 'Train Round the Bend', especially Lou's delivery
― it makes sense......................................does it to you? (Z S), Thursday, 20 May 2010 03:24 (fourteen years ago) link
You did see Doug Yule's message on Freaky Trigger, right?
― Mark G, Thursday, 20 May 2010 08:09 (fourteen years ago) link
Gotta love that ludicrous image of Lou going to the country and trying to be a farmer... of course, years later, he ended up living in the country and succeeded in becoming a cockfarmer
― Whirlwind Bromance (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 May 2010 08:55 (fourteen years ago) link
Rock n' roll. Especially the bit where there's a little guitar run, then they come back with the I-> IV like they invented it.
― Dr X O'Skeleton, Thursday, 20 May 2010 19:48 (fourteen years ago) link
and it was allriiiiiiiiiiiiight
― Dr X O'Skeleton, Thursday, 20 May 2010 19:49 (fourteen years ago) link
Tempted to vote for "Rock and Roll" or "Oh Sweet Nothing" but I kinda think "Sweet Jane" is so famous for a reason and that reason is pure awesomeness
― crazy ass between (askance johnson), Thursday, 20 May 2010 20:00 (fourteen years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 23:01 (fourteen years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Thursday, 27 May 2010 23:01 (fourteen years ago) link
"I Found a Reason" 3
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Thursday, 27 May 2010 23:02 (fourteen years ago) link
I didn't vote but if I had it would've been between "rock & roll" and "I found a reason"
― (e_3) (Edward III), Thursday, 27 May 2010 23:09 (fourteen years ago) link
pretty accurate in that
"Rock & Roll" 28"Oh! Sweet Nuthin'" 24"Sweet Jane" 13"Who Loves the Sun" 11"New Age" 7
= solid
"Head Held High" 4"Cool It Down" 3"I Found a Reason" 3"Train Round the Bend" 3"Lonesome Cowboy Bill" 2
=filler
― iatee, Thursday, 27 May 2010 23:49 (fourteen years ago) link
but I gotta say it again, the dylan-esque version of 'I found a reason' is amazing. dunno why he had to ruin that song.
― iatee, Thursday, 27 May 2010 23:52 (fourteen years ago) link
really don't get the hate for "I found a reason"
the spoken part in the middle is corny but it's lou corny, which kinda makes me lol
― (e_3) (Edward III), Friday, 28 May 2010 00:13 (fourteen years ago) link
listen to the fully loaded version!
― iatee, Friday, 28 May 2010 00:14 (fourteen years ago) link
C- doo-wop pastiche vs. A+ dylan pastiche
― iatee, Friday, 28 May 2010 00:16 (fourteen years ago) link
Woulda voted for "I Found a Reason".
First time I heard this record was on headphones, and i fell asleep halfway through it! I wasnt even that tired...
― Adam Bruneau, Friday, 28 May 2010 01:34 (fourteen years ago) link
I really dig "Cool It Down."
― a reprehensible gentility of trouser (staggerlee), Friday, 28 May 2010 01:42 (fourteen years ago) link
'train round the bend' is killer not filler
― English: The Money Woman (history mayne), Friday, 28 May 2010 08:12 (fourteen years ago) link
"Head Held High" has so much potential but it sounds like they gave up on it and made it instead a rush job.
― _▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂_ (Steve Shasta), Friday, 28 May 2010 15:28 (fourteen years ago) link
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/asia_pacific/10181186.stm
― am0n, Friday, 28 May 2010 15:30 (fourteen years ago) link
'head held high' and 'i found a reason' TOTALLY NOT bad/shitty/filler!! that's just wrong
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 1 November 2013 15:48 (ten years ago) link
There is no filler on this record. Although I prefer the folk rock alternate version of I Found A Reason on the Fully Loaded CD.
― kornrulez6969, Friday, 1 November 2013 15:51 (ten years ago) link
They couldn't tell Lou Reed from Doug Yule
Neither could Bowie.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 1 November 2013 15:55 (ten years ago) link
who said this record is loaded with fillers?
― nostormo, Friday, 1 November 2013 15:58 (ten years ago) link
this record is exactly 50% filler
― iatee, Friday, 1 November 2013 15:58 (ten years ago) link
I don't get that at all. This is as filler-free as any record, ever.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 1 November 2013 15:59 (ten years ago) link
I prefer the folk rock alternate version of I Found A Reason on the Fully Loaded CD.
wtf never heard this before. surprised there was stuff NOT included on Peel Slowly box!
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 1 November 2013 15:59 (ten years ago) link
"Lonesome Cowboy Bill" is the only song that could conceivably described as filler and I still lvoe it nonetheless
― Thomas K Amphong (Tom D.), Friday, 1 November 2013 16:00 (ten years ago) link
Or even love it
i am lonesome cowboy bill
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Friday, 1 November 2013 16:01 (ten years ago) link
agreethere is no filler -- that's why it is so greatalso imo teenage billy yule is a more interesting/stronger drummer than moe tucker (sorry moe) esp the freakout in sweet nuthin!!
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 1 November 2013 16:02 (ten years ago) link
love the second disc on the fully loaded set, listen to it more than the 'official' alb these days
― Ward Fowler, Friday, 1 November 2013 16:02 (ten years ago) link
Careful there Morbs, you're goin' too darn fast (xxp)
― Thomas K Amphong (Tom D.), Friday, 1 November 2013 16:02 (ten years ago) link
anyone who thinks that sweet jane and hhh / cool it down / cowboy bill are anywhere comparable in quality is in denial
― iatee, Friday, 1 November 2013 16:06 (ten years ago) link
still, there'a a big gap between "comparable in quality" and a filler
― nostormo, Friday, 1 November 2013 16:07 (ten years ago) link
also imo teenage billy yule is a more interesting/stronger drummer than moe tucker (sorry moe)esp the freakout in sweet nuthin!!
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, November 1, 2013 12:02 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
He's great on that, but I imagine Moe woulda brought it into a different universe entirely (not necessarily better, just different).
Generally, though, I think Moe was one of the more groundbreaking drummers of her time. Billy's fine on Loaded, but he's working well-worn territory (cymbal crashes go here, fills go here).
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 1 November 2013 16:09 (ten years ago) link
yeah, i can hear that -- but in a song like that i think it sounds good and right! i like it at least. i can imagine aiming for it and missing in interesting ways too.
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 1 November 2013 16:11 (ten years ago) link
not that i've tried...
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 1 November 2013 16:12 (ten years ago) link
"amazing that they made 4 radically different records in just about four years"
i don't know id it's radically different than the 3rd, more like a logical step forward
― nostormo, Friday, 1 November 2013 16:14 (ten years ago) link
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, November 1, 2013 11:59 AM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Most of Another View isn't on there, and it's missing "Ocean," "Andy's Chest," "She's My Best Friend," and the first six notes of "Foggy Notion" from VU.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 1 November 2013 16:15 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, I think for along time I assumed everything was on the box set, but alas. I've still never heard a bunch of that stuff from Another View.
― when the second single is the title track (askance johnson), Friday, 1 November 2013 16:19 (ten years ago) link
well yeah I meant stuff that wasn't already issued elsewhere
xp
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 1 November 2013 16:19 (ten years ago) link
Also, I don't know if it's "filler" per se, but I'd agree that there's about 50% of this album that I wouldn't mind never hearing again.
― when the second single is the title track (askance johnson), Friday, 1 November 2013 16:20 (ten years ago) link
how come there's no VU and Nico poll?
― nostormo, Friday, 1 November 2013 16:24 (ten years ago) link
their career trajectory is interesting because it went from more arty to more pop, which is the opposite of other seminal 60s artists
― Treeship, Friday, 1 November 2013 16:29 (ten years ago) link
ahead of their times even on this aspect..
― nostormo, Friday, 1 November 2013 16:32 (ten years ago) link
the problem with this album is that it's too front-loaded (heh). the last minute of "sweet jane" and all of "rock and roll" are as good as music gets so the remainder of the album is bound to seem like a letdown, even though all of the songs are good (if not up there with the best VU material). i the reason people think there is filler on this album is because the high points are just so high.
― Treeship, Friday, 1 November 2013 16:36 (ten years ago) link
Wild Child - maybe my favorite Reed solo song - fits this record perfectly.
wish it was here (it was written while the VU were still going) and not on his 1st, otherwise boring solo record.
― nostormo, Friday, 1 November 2013 16:39 (ten years ago) link