I'm guessing you know somebody you could borrow the key Dead albums from if you were actually interested xpost
― in which we apologize for sobering up (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Thursday, 20 May 2010 16:41 (fourteen years ago) link
I have a hard enough time keeping up with all the music I actually WANT to hear, but then I'm not one of the people around here that gets sent tons of free stuff/downloads whatever they want
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― Here is a tasty coconut. Sorry for my earlier harshness. (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 May 2010 16:42 (fourteen years ago) link
this is true. the problem is I hate these people and don't want to talk to them.
i'd like to give a shout out to rca special products cuz in the early 80s these were two of my fave things to play:
http://www.arrakis.es/~e.miquel/rnranimal/images/offilp/wildchildlp.jpg
http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/s596397.jpg
(didn't have a lot of money back then. always looking for budget comps. both on pair records!)
― scott seward, Thursday, 20 May 2010 16:43 (fourteen years ago) link
lookit Lou's muscles!
― Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 May 2010 16:43 (fourteen years ago) link
The Dead....I really don't know: I've been giving them a chance every now and then for like 30 years - I'm on my third copy of American Beauty, and still, compared to Sweetheart, Gilded Palace, all the Band records, Moby Grape and so on, it doesn't really do it. I do however, love the first NRPS.
― sonofstan, Thursday, 20 May 2010 16:43 (fourteen years ago) link
"I thought you meant you'd spent a few years learning to love them, having to work at it a bit."
it took me 30 years of listening to finally LOVE the byrds.
took me twenty years of going back to it to finally understand why people loved exile on main street so much.
took me 25 years since i first heard them to truly LOVE and appreciate magazine.
― scott seward, Thursday, 20 May 2010 16:46 (fourteen years ago) link
i still listen to the studio albums way more than i listen to live stuff.
This is pretty important. The Dead's live rep as being these masters of improvisation who created these unique tapestries of psychedelic fire every night has been vastly overstated by both their fans and detractors. The early 70s studio stuff is where it's at for me, including the first Jerry and Bobby solo albums.
― ljagljana (kkvgz), Thursday, 20 May 2010 16:48 (fourteen years ago) link
(although I think there was a glimmer of hope for them in the late 80s just before Brent died - R.I.P.)
― ljagljana (kkvgz), Thursday, 20 May 2010 16:49 (fourteen years ago) link
i dunno, sometimes I prefer the jammier stuff, though I'm not an intense collector or anything. actually the official live albums usually do the trick.
― tylerw, Thursday, 20 May 2010 16:50 (fourteen years ago) link
There's quite a few ahead of the Dead in the queue tho!
― Wenlock & Mandelson (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 May 2010 16:50 (fourteen years ago) link
Well yeah, the official live albums are highlights. But if you try to explore further than that, it can be very scattershot indeed.
― ljagljana (kkvgz), Thursday, 20 May 2010 16:51 (fourteen years ago) link
I've never heard Loaded all the way through though. I think I'm going to try to track down a copy tonight.
― ljagljana (kkvgz), Thursday, 20 May 2010 17:09 (fourteen years ago) link
I still don't LOVE The Byrds beyond the obvious stuff. 20 years of trying.
― Brio, Thursday, 20 May 2010 17:10 (fourteen years ago) link
I barely even like the Byrds.
― ljagljana (kkvgz), Thursday, 20 May 2010 17:11 (fourteen years ago) link
Holy shit I love the Byrds so much.I think a lot of it is their legacy of inspiration.A lot of my favorite bands have some serious Byrds worship happening.
― Trip Maker, Thursday, 20 May 2010 17:12 (fourteen years ago) link
byrds are fantastic (tho obviously a few rough spots). Clarence White-era has some indispensable stuff. anyone wanting to be convinced should get that Royal Albert Hall show that was released a few years back.
― tylerw, Thursday, 20 May 2010 17:16 (fourteen years ago) link
aw Clarence is the best for sure - ever hear that Everley Brothers version of "Cuckoo Bird"? So nice. Also love him on that Gene Clark and the Gosdins record. The Byrds not so much.
Love Dillard and Clark too.
Can't put my finger on why The Byrds elude me.
― Brio, Thursday, 20 May 2010 17:35 (fourteen years ago) link
dunno, sometimes I prefer the jammier stuff, though I'm not an intense collector or anything. actually the official live albums usually do the trick.
Well yeah, the official live albums are highlights. But if you try to explore further than that, it can be very scattershot indeed
xpost: without a net is an exception. it's a bad official live Dead album
― If you can believe your eyes and ears (outdoor_miner), Thursday, 20 May 2010 17:37 (fourteen years ago) link
don't think i've heard without a net. what year is it from?
― tylerw, Thursday, 20 May 2010 17:38 (fourteen years ago) link
speaking of live dead tho: http://www.arthurmag.com/2010/05/07/grateful-dead-mix-volume-2-by-greg-davis/a nice overview of how the Dead can be stellar live.
― tylerw, Thursday, 20 May 2010 17:40 (fourteen years ago) link
Also love him on that Gene Clark and the Gosdins record. The Byrds not so much.
^^^cosign all of this. I like some Byrds stuff but their catalog just seems like such a mess, its difficult to wade through
― Here is a tasty coconut. Sorry for my earlier harshness. (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 May 2010 17:42 (fourteen years ago) link
ew yeah - Without A Net is pretty sad, although Feel Like a Stranger and Help->Slipknot->Franklin's are great.
― ljagljana (kkvgz), Thursday, 20 May 2010 17:42 (fourteen years ago) link
it's just that I make a habit of, every few years, checking out something I think I hate to see if I feel differently about it. I recommend this to all music-lovers because there are a lot of dumb reasons for not liking stuff (social cues, meaningless bias, breadth/range of experience i.e. there's stuff that you want to have heard a lot of other stuff before it'll make much sense). and your ears change, your tastes mature or grow or shift, anyway.
So tremendously OTM. This is the entire story of my last decade as a music freak.
― Is it far? Is it far? Is it far? (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 20 May 2010 17:43 (fourteen years ago) link
Loaded is my favorite VU album, and I don't care much for the Dead, so...
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Thursday, 20 May 2010 17:44 (fourteen years ago) link
underrated aerosmith albums has been all over the money on this thread; American Beauty is seriously fucking good. "In the Attics of My Life" could have been on Pet Sounds and that's like the eight best song on this album.
to, me if you were going to pit AB against another 1970 album, the obvious choice (besides Workingman's Dead which I don't like as much) would be After the Gold Rush.
― The masses have spoken: more zombie Roy Orbison! (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 20 May 2010 17:52 (fourteen years ago) link
(for instance, both contain throwaway ditties about the coming of morning)
― The masses have spoken: more zombie Roy Orbison! (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 20 May 2010 17:53 (fourteen years ago) link
as much as i love neil, after the goldrush has never been one of my favorite records of his. AB pretty much crushes it. i think the gilded palace of sin is maybe the only record being discussed on this thread i genuinely connect with/love more than AB.
― ian, Thursday, 20 May 2010 17:54 (fourteen years ago) link
1970 album poll would be hella difficult. Didn't Starsailor and Lick My Decals off come out that year too? Monster Movie (or was that 69)?
― Is it far? Is it far? Is it far? (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 20 May 2010 18:04 (fourteen years ago) link
― tylerw, Thursday, May 20, 2010 5:16 PM (48 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
^^ this, btw, is OTM. clarence is a god.
― ian, Thursday, 20 May 2010 18:05 (fourteen years ago) link
xpostyeah, there's so much 1970 gold...Funhouse, Parachute, Band of Gypsies, Plastic Ono Band
― Brio, Thursday, 20 May 2010 18:09 (fourteen years ago) link
Funkadelic debut too. 1970 was a great year
― Here is a tasty coconut. Sorry for my earlier harshness. (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 May 2010 18:10 (fourteen years ago) link
soundtracks wz 70...
1970 is one of my favourite years...
Fun HouseAfter the Gold RushAmerican BeautyWorkingman's DeadYetiSoundtracksBlack SabbathParanoidFunkadelicFree Your Mind and Your Ass Will FollowLed Zep IIILick My Decals OffMoondanceMorrison HotelLet It BeKiln HouseStarsailor (still uninitiated as far as Tim Buckley goes)
― The masses have spoken: more zombie Roy Orbison! (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 20 May 2010 18:12 (fourteen years ago) link
^plus the other ones Brio said
― The masses have spoken: more zombie Roy Orbison! (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 20 May 2010 18:13 (fourteen years ago) link
oh and Loaded duh
What in the world ever happened to became of sweet Jane
― tylerw, Wednesday, May 19, 2010 8:41 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
― 69, Thursday, 20 May 2010 18:16 (fourteen years ago) link
wasn't Bitches Brew 70 too? crazy year
― Brio, Thursday, 20 May 2010 18:18 (fourteen years ago) link
Look at that fucking list!!! My birth year = best rock year EVAR?
What do you mean by uninitiated re: starsailor, btw?
― Is it far? Is it far? Is it far? (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 20 May 2010 18:23 (fourteen years ago) link
"I like some Byrds stuff but their catalog just seems like such a mess, its difficult to wade through"
start with the first byrds album and go from there!
― scott seward, Thursday, 20 May 2010 18:33 (fourteen years ago) link
or preflyte
― iatee, Thursday, 20 May 2010 18:34 (fourteen years ago) link
haven't heard any Buckley...:(
lots i forgot too re: 1970
Cosmo's FactoryAll Things Must PassLaylaJames Gang Rides AgainDeep Purple in RockSoft Machine ThirdNico's Desertshorefirst Magma albumfirst Third Ear Band albumBlows Against the EmpireOsmiumTwelve Dreams of Dr. SardonicusLorcaDivina Comedia ou Ando Meio DesligadoThe Madcap LaughsThe Least We Can Do is Wave to Each OtherH to He Who Am the Only One
(admittedly, past the Deep Purple I started to list albums I wanted to hear instead of actually have heard, but theyre all ones I legitimately really want to hear)Just Another Diamond Day
― The masses have spoken: more zombie Roy Orbison! (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 20 May 2010 18:36 (fourteen years ago) link
Wait-- jeez-- did Buckley release Lorca, Starsailor and Blue Afternoon all in 1970? That is some anno mirabilis shit right there...
― Is it far? Is it far? Is it far? (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 20 May 2010 18:38 (fourteen years ago) link
blue afternoon was released in 1970, according to wiki, though all three albums were developed simultaneously.
― The masses have spoken: more zombie Roy Orbison! (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 20 May 2010 18:58 (fourteen years ago) link
blue afternoon was released in1969
What a fucking cool trilogy. Each LP so distinct from the others. Shame 2/3 of it has been OOP for like 20 years.
― Is it far? Is it far? Is it far? (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 20 May 2010 20:11 (fourteen years ago) link
Til the Morning Comes may be a throwaway ditty, but it really pops.
― ljagljana (kkvgz), Thursday, 20 May 2010 20:56 (fourteen years ago) link
What kind of people are big VU fans? Seriously. I never understood the appeal. That being said Loaded is probably their best album because it has the most poppy radio type songs. Also, I don't get the appeal of much Lou Reed stuff
yeah it's all a matter of taste BUT YER TASTE IS WEIRD
― CaptainLorax, Thursday, 20 May 2010 21:04 (fourteen years ago) link
i'm a big VU fan
― tylerw, Thursday, 20 May 2010 21:06 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, i am too.
― scott seward, Thursday, 20 May 2010 21:07 (fourteen years ago) link
i don't know what kind of people this makes me though.
― scott seward, Thursday, 20 May 2010 21:08 (fourteen years ago) link