Oh man, great post Masonic Boom! Bought this like an hour or two ago at the rekkid store. Can't wait to get into it more.
― ksh, Thursday, 20 May 2010 17:54 (fourteen years ago) link
Did he really sample his mother's life support machine? I can't work out if that's moving or sociopathic.
― The Men Who Stare At Goatse (Matt DC), Thursday, 27 May 2010 14:12 (fourteen years ago) link
Also what does the final track remind me of? It's really bugging me.
Is it something by the Avalanches?
― Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Thursday, 27 May 2010 14:22 (fourteen years ago) link
really feelin this~
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzqw6yKnvGQ
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 6 June 2010 22:13 (thirteen years ago) link
o daym
― teflon donk (samosa gibreel), Sunday, 6 June 2010 22:20 (thirteen years ago) link
the lorn album is pretty cool, i guess, it's a good sounding record for sure. his drum are so pristine sounding (esp. compared to the other Brainfeeder stuff), it's what i imagine the samples are like on those expensive sample packs you see at guitar center or whatever.
― emotional radiohead whatever (Jordan), Thursday, 10 June 2010 16:15 (thirteen years ago) link
'army of fear' is pretty dope.
I know i'm really late but that Essential Mix is great
― Salted gnocchimole (admrl), Friday, 2 July 2010 03:14 (thirteen years ago) link
Was just thinking of reviving this. Cosmogramma is growing on me, very very slowly. The good thing is that from the beginning I found it at least okay to have on, so it's got all this time to grow on me, and it's come in handy when I want something in the background. It's still like I don't really like it that much and yet I keep playing it, so what does that mean exactly?
― _Rudipherous_, Friday, 2 July 2010 03:22 (thirteen years ago) link
That sums this guy up for me. Not quite great enough to have me playing this on endless loop, but far too engaging to be just background music. I suppose if I still walked places or smoked weed I would have more uses for this music. It's good to drive to, though!
― Salted gnocchimole (admrl), Friday, 2 July 2010 03:44 (thirteen years ago) link
i've been going back to 'los angeles' a lot lately and it feels a lot more detailed & visceral than this imo
― emotional radiohead whatever (Jordan), Friday, 2 July 2010 13:14 (thirteen years ago) link
I'd say LA is def. more visceral, Cosmogramma more detailed...
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Friday, 2 July 2010 13:16 (thirteen years ago) link
cosmogramma has all the orchestration, but i hear a lot more detail in the synths, weird background sounds, and rhythms in l.a.
btw i never caught that essential mix, would love to hear it if someone could hook me up
― emotional radiohead whatever (Jordan), Friday, 2 July 2010 13:36 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2dVGlCH2ag&NR=1
― TACOS, NM (admrl), Monday, 23 August 2010 00:59 (thirteen years ago) link
i posting this strictly for its awesome artwork:
http://imgur.com/N93xu.jpg
Pattern+Grid World is an upcoming EP by Flying Lotus. It was announced on the Warp Records website on August 17, 2010, and is to be released on September 20/21, 2010.
Track Listing:
1. Clay2. Kill Your Co-Workers3. PieFace4. Time Vampires5. Jurassic Notion/M Theory6. Camera Day7. Physics For Everyone!
― Bee OK, Saturday, 18 September 2010 04:22 (thirteen years ago) link
So how is this other Flying Lotus thing?
― papa's got a brand new discrete strategy (_Rudipherous_), Monday, 20 September 2010 21:06 (thirteen years ago) link
The material is different enough from Cosmogramma to warrant its own EP. Not sure if these are leftovers or mostly new stuff he's just whipped up, but I like it.
― Millsner, Thursday, 23 September 2010 04:28 (thirteen years ago) link
scared to relisten because it keeps sounding more and more like squarepusher
but really, THE LORN ALBUM IS SICK
― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 01:38 (thirteen years ago) link
ok this is the best thing ever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPLNK3mn7zE
― jerkstore cowboy (Pillbox), Monday, 13 December 2010 19:56 (thirteen years ago) link
don't like the new EP much myself, too chiptunes / drill & bass for my taste
― moonship journey to baja, Monday, 13 December 2010 21:29 (thirteen years ago) link
what do you know, i agree! too squarepusher, i think i only listened to it once.
― bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Monday, 13 December 2010 21:32 (thirteen years ago) link
if i'm going to listen to chiptunes i'd rather listen to rustie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOHAXsJHPuw
― moonship journey to baja, Monday, 13 December 2010 22:15 (thirteen years ago) link
ok this is the best thing ever - fyi song is ok, I was mostly referring to the video.
― jerkstore cowboy (Pillbox), Monday, 13 December 2010 22:28 (thirteen years ago) link
from his tweets, i'm going to guess this guy wasn't nominated for a grammy this year
flyinglotus Flying Lotus Wonder if i have any chance in hell getting a grammy nomination this week. If I ever had a shot, this is the year./29 Nov ________________________________flyinglotus Flying Lotus BT, Chemical Brothers, Groove Armada??? are you serious??Grammys are a joke. FUCK YOU./2 Dec________________________________flyinglotus Flying Lotus @thegrammys FUCK YOU/2 Dec________________________________flyinglotus Flying Lotus @thegrammys You are jokes/2 Dec________________________________flyinglotus Flying Lotus @thegrammys PussyAssNotknowingShitaboutREALmusicBitchMadeMotherfuckers/2 Dec________________________________flyinglotus Flying Lotus @thegrammys you better hope I don't get a ticket to the party bitch/2 Dec________________________________flyinglotus Flying Lotus @thegrammys suck a donkey dick/2 Dec
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flyinglotus Flying Lotus BT, Chemical Brothers, Groove Armada??? are you serious??Grammys are a joke. FUCK YOU./2 Dec
flyinglotus Flying Lotus @thegrammys FUCK YOU/2 Dec
flyinglotus Flying Lotus @thegrammys You are jokes/2 Dec
flyinglotus Flying Lotus @thegrammys PussyAssNotknowingShitaboutREALmusicBitchMadeMotherfuckers/2 Dec
flyinglotus Flying Lotus @thegrammys you better hope I don't get a ticket to the party bitch/2 Dec
flyinglotus Flying Lotus @thegrammys suck a donkey dick/2 Dec
― Daniel, Esq., Friday, 31 December 2010 00:43 (thirteen years ago) link
I want to like this, I really do, but it's squished to fuck and pretty much unlistenable to me.
― Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 31 December 2010 06:24 (thirteen years ago) link
the new one or cosmogramma?
cosmogramma is in my year top 10 but i think the new EP is pretty hard to listen to
― moonship journey to baja, Friday, 31 December 2010 12:49 (thirteen years ago) link
Cosmogramma.
― Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 31 December 2010 14:00 (thirteen years ago) link
what do you mean squished to fuck?
― moonship journey to baja, Friday, 31 December 2010 14:27 (thirteen years ago) link
Compressed. It's loud; all the instruments and elements in the mix are squished together and competing for attention, and it hurts my ears / head to try and listen to it.
― Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 31 December 2010 14:28 (thirteen years ago) link
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/njsouthall/Screenshot2010-12-31at143040.png
― Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 31 December 2010 14:32 (thirteen years ago) link
the intro to the first song is offputting to me. i'm learning to get beyond it, but the early cuts remind me of breakbeat, which always hurts my ears. i do like the jazzy progressions and flourishes i hear in some songs (e.g., pickled!).
― Daniel, Esq., Friday, 31 December 2010 14:35 (thirteen years ago) link
Monster by Kanye:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/njsouthall/Screenshot2010-12-31at143429.png
Dance Yrself Clean by LCD (bot sure why only 1 channel??):
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/njsouthall/Screenshot2010-12-31at143500.png
― Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 31 December 2010 14:36 (thirteen years ago) link
how do you feel about sidechain compression?
― bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Friday, 31 December 2010 16:47 (thirteen years ago) link
What's that?
― Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 31 December 2010 19:07 (thirteen years ago) link
Ah right, one band at a time. I feel the same way as I do about multiband and dynamic range compression, and compression on individual instruments / tracks etc etc etc. Which is that I am not against it per se, at all; I'm against records that come out of the other end sounding horrible. Any recording technique if used sympathetically can be awesome and make a record better. Equally, I think we're also at a point where relatively uncompressed (in all sense), naturally-recorded records now sound really fucking weird, leftfield, psychedelic, and experimental. And Sleigh Bells sound like Girls Aloud.
― Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 31 December 2010 19:11 (thirteen years ago) link
My ears hurt just looking at that Monster waveform.
Fwiw, I've enjoyed Cosmogramma a lot this year, but the compression issue is probably the reason why I never loved it and found it difficult to listen to regularly. I'm certain that its feel sound-wise contributed to its labeling as a 'difficult' or slept-on record amongst critics.
― Davek (davek_00), Friday, 31 December 2010 19:37 (thirteen years ago) link
Aye; I don't think it would be at all difficult if it was better mastered. I think it'd be awesome. As for his spat on Twitter, maybe he'd have got a Grammy.
― Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 31 December 2010 19:40 (thirteen years ago) link
I remember someone complaining about FlyLo's set at Sonar being compressed to fuck, so maybe it's a production and not a mastering issue?
But then I don't really understand the distinction between the two for electronic music so uh
― just woke up (lukas), Friday, 31 December 2010 23:01 (thirteen years ago) link
otm
― slouching, unshaven, thick-necked, unstylish, pig-eyed (ilxor), Friday, 31 December 2010 23:14 (thirteen years ago) link
holy crap you guys sound like grown ups
"great googly moogly! this new-fangled racket hurts my ears!"
― moonship journey to baja, Friday, 31 December 2010 23:30 (thirteen years ago) link
also "reminds me of breakbeat" FTW
― moonship journey to baja, Friday, 31 December 2010 23:31 (thirteen years ago) link
sadly, i am a grown-up.
lots of times i wish it were otherwise.
― Daniel, Esq., Friday, 31 December 2010 23:47 (thirteen years ago) link
now, to ring in the new year, i will listen to dan fogelburg's old lang syne on repeat.
love that song to bits. "met my old lover at the grocery store . . . . "
― Daniel, Esq., Friday, 31 December 2010 23:48 (thirteen years ago) link
anyhoo i am going to listen to three kenny burell LPs on blue note and THEN the flying lotus turned up super loud and get back to you on whether i succeeded in inducing a headache.
i feel like there are many layers to the sound and a great deal of implied space anyway in the beats, so i'm not sure what exactly's lost w/ the over-compression here that isn't made up for in other regards. or maybe it's just an aesthetic choice you don't like?
― moonship journey to baja, Friday, 31 December 2010 23:48 (thirteen years ago) link
okay, i'm going to give cosmogramma another go.
― Daniel, Esq., Friday, 31 December 2010 23:51 (thirteen years ago) link
Scik has major dislike for extreme compression in recordings. I know that and I hardly follow his every post.
― _Rudipherous_, Friday, 31 December 2010 23:53 (thirteen years ago) link
a lot of this music makes heavy use of sidechain compression, as an effect. usually the kick is sidechained to another element of the track (the bass, a vocal, anything or everything) so that it pushes it out of the way on every hit. too much of it can make you feel kind of seasick when listening...i'm just wondering if that's what you're hearing instead of mastering compression.
― bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Saturday, 1 January 2011 00:20 (thirteen years ago) link
(i haven't listened to cosmogramma in awhile so i don't remember how compressed it is or how sidechain-y, but the Teebs album is a good example of too much sidechaining for my taste)
― bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Saturday, 1 January 2011 00:21 (thirteen years ago) link
yes Nick you should read up on sidechain compression -- it's not one band at a time, it's creatively applied by the artists at the mix stage. Jordan's describes it well and you know what it is, it's the sucking sound where the kick or snare or loud vocal hits seem to smack the rest of the mix out of the way for a second and then the mix inflates back up in the wake of it.
The technique also reduces dynamic range & allows for hotter mastering, which is why you hate it. But that's a taste thing and it's a world apart from your complaints about remastering -- people like the Daft Punk sound and you need to start distinguishing your argument against music ruined at the mastering stage and home producers like Flying Lotus who know what they're doing, even if it's not to your taste
I think I mentioned this before, but a year ago my dad, who has not listened to anything but classical radio for years, said that he finally figured out why he couldn't listen to the Beatles anymore, it was because their music had no dynamic range
― Milton Parker, Saturday, 1 January 2011 00:43 (thirteen years ago) link