Velvet Underground - Loaded - The Poll

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/asia_pacific/10181186.stm

'head held high' and 'i found a reason' TOTALLY NOT bad/shitty/filler!!
that's just wrong

There is no filler on this record. Although I prefer the folk rock alternate version of I Found A Reason on the Fully Loaded CD.

This thread reminds me of that fabulous Fall bit:

They couldn't tell Lou Reed from Doug Yule

Neither could Bowie.

who said this record is loaded with fillers?

this record is exactly 50% filler

I don't get that at all. This is as filler-free as any record, ever.

I prefer the folk rock alternate version of I Found A Reason on the Fully Loaded CD.

wtf never heard this before. surprised there was stuff NOT included on Peel Slowly box!

"Lonesome Cowboy Bill" is the only song that could conceivably described as filler and I still lvoe it nonetheless

Or even love it

i am lonesome cowboy bill

agree
there is no filler -- that's why it is so great
also imo teenage billy yule is a more interesting/stronger drummer than moe tucker (sorry moe)
esp the freakout in sweet nuthin!!

love the second disc on the fully loaded set, listen to it more than the 'official' alb these days

Careful there Morbs, you're goin' too darn fast (xxp)

anyone who thinks that sweet jane and hhh / cool it down / cowboy bill are anywhere comparable in quality is in denial

still, there'a a big gap between "comparable in quality" and a filler

also imo teenage billy yule is a more interesting/stronger drummer than moe tucker (sorry moe)
esp the freakout in sweet nuthin!!

― sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, November 1, 2013 12:02 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

He's great on that, but I imagine Moe woulda brought it into a different universe entirely (not necessarily better, just different).

Generally, though, I think Moe was one of the more groundbreaking drummers of her time. Billy's fine on Loaded, but he's working well-worn territory (cymbal crashes go here, fills go here).

yeah, i can hear that -- but in a song like that i think it sounds good and right! i like it at least. i can imagine aiming for it and missing in interesting ways too.

not that i've tried...

"amazing that they made 4 radically different records in just about four years"

i don't know id it's radically different than the 3rd, more like a logical step forward

wtf never heard this before. surprised there was stuff NOT included on Peel Slowly box!

― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, November 1, 2013 11:59 AM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Most of Another View isn't on there, and it's missing "Ocean," "Andy's Chest," "She's My Best Friend," and the first six notes of "Foggy Notion" from VU.

Yeah, I think for along time I assumed everything was on the box set, but alas. I've still never heard a bunch of that stuff from Another View.

well yeah I meant stuff that wasn't already issued elsewhere

xp

Also, I don't know if it's "filler" per se, but I'd agree that there's about 50% of this album that I wouldn't mind never hearing again.

how come there's no VU and Nico poll?

their career trajectory is interesting because it went from more arty to more pop, which is the opposite of other seminal 60s artists

ahead of their times even on this aspect..

the problem with this album is that it's too front-loaded (heh). the last minute of "sweet jane" and all of "rock and roll" are as good as music gets so the remainder of the album is bound to seem like a letdown, even though all of the songs are good (if not up there with the best VU material). i the reason people think there is filler on this album is because the high points are just so high.

Wild Child - maybe my favorite Reed solo song - fits this record perfectly.

wish it was here (it was written while the VU were still going) and not on his 1st, otherwise boring solo record.

I totally love the idea that a band known so much for their avant-gardeness and experimentation would make a sweet slow dance number like "i found a reason" or a rip roaring self-confidence anthem like "head held high" and then just slap them next to all those other great songs. it's one of the things i like best about those songs, how kinda standardy they are.

and then sweet nuthin at the end? not front loaded.

train round the bend is the only song on this i skip

rip roaring self-confidence anthem like "head held high"

never heard this as being particularly sincere.

it works either way!

that's why it's great. it could be a muppets song or ironic f u or whatever you want it to be.

man I love 'train round the bend'!

Someone said it upthread but yeah "Head Held High" sounds so fierce and unstoppable out of the gates and then it just kinda sputters out. Wish they would have developed that into a proper jammer.

do the dog!
do you people not dance? it's hard to keep up that kind of energy.

Where does it sputter out? Is this a different song we're talking about? And why do people constantly say "Loaded" is ironic? Lou's goofin' around a bit on "Head Held High" but I think it's pretty sincere.

not on his 1st, otherwise boring solo record.

Is not boring!

And we like Goofy Lou!

somebody's got the time time

"Head Held High" is my favorite of the album tracks.

anyone who thinks that any part of this album contains filler or feels like a letdown should be thrown in jail

And the door nailed shut

It's not got filler, it's not a letdown, I just like the other albums more.

That's ok. You will not be jailed.

ta.

including 'Squeeze'

(nr)

This record contains Lou's best vocals.

Missed this poll but amazed that Train Round the Bend came up last.

Sooo here you go -- they just announced a six disc special edition:

LOADED: RE-LOADED 45TH ANNIVERSARY EDITION

Disc One: Loaded Remastered Disc Two: Loaded Remastered:
1. "Who Loves The Sun"
2. "Sweet Jane" - Full Length Version
3. "Rock & Roll" - Full Length Version
4. "Cool It Down"
5. "New Age"
6. "Head Held High"
7. "Lonesome Cowboy Bill"
8. "I Found A Reason"
9. "Train Round The Bend"
10. "Oh! Sweet Nuthin'"
Session Outtakes:
11. "I'm Sticking With You" - New Remix
12. "Ocean"
13. "I Love You"
14. "Ride Into The Sun"

Disc Two: Loaded Remastered:
Promotional Mono Version

1. "Who Loves The Sun"
2. "Sweet Jane" - Full Length Version
3. "Rock & Roll" - Full Length Version
4. "Cool It Down"
5. "New Age"
6. "Head Held High"
7. "Lonesome Cowboy Bill"
8. "I Found A Reason"
9. "Train Round The Bend"
10. "Oh! Sweet Nuthin'"
Singles and B-Sides
11. "Who Loves The Sun"
12. "Oh! Sweet Nuthin'"
13. "Rock & Roll" *
14. "Lonesome Cowboy Bill" *

Disc Three: Demos, Early Versions and Alternate Mixes
Demos
1. "Rock & Roll" - Demo
2. "Sad Song" - Demo
3. "Satellite Of Love" - Demo
4. "Walk And Talk" - Demo
5. "Oh Gin" - Demo
6. "Ocean" - Demo
7. "I Love You" - Demo
8. "Love Makes You Feel Ten Feet Tall" - Demo Remix
9. "I Found A Reason" - Demo
Early Versions
10. "Cool It Down" - Early Version, Remix
11. "Sweet Jane" - Early Version, Remix
12. "Lonesome Cowboy Bill" - Early Version, Remix
13. "Head Held High" - Early Version, Remix
14. "Oh! Sweet Nuthin'" - Early Version, Remix
Alternate Mixes
15. "Who Loves The Sun" - Alternate Mix
16. "Sweet Jane" - Alternate Mix
17. "Cool It Down" - Alternate Mix
18. "Lonesome Cowboy Bill" - Alternate Mix
19. "Train Round The Bend" - Alternate Mix
20. "Head Held High" - Alternate Mix
21. "Rock & Roll" - Alternate Mix

Disc Four: Live At Max's Kansas City
Remastered

1. "I'm Waiting For The Man"
2. "White Light/White Heat"
3. "I'm Set Free"
4. "Sweet Jane"
5. "Lonesome Cowboy Bill"
6. "New Age"
7. "Beginning To See The Light"
8. "I'll Be Your Mirror"
9. "Pale Blue Eyes"
10. "Candy Says"
11. "Sunday Morning"
12. "After Hours"
13. "Femme Fatale"
14. "Some Kinda Love"
15. "Lonesome Cowboy Bill" - Version 2

Disc Five: Live At Second Fret,
Philadelphia, 1970

1. "I'm Waiting For The Man"
2. "What Goes On"
3. "Cool It Down"
4. "Sweet Jane"
5. "Rock & Roll"
6. "Some Kinda Love"
7. "New Age"
8. "Candy Says"
9. "Head Held High"
10. "Train Round The Bend"
11. "Oh! Sweet Nuthin'"

*previously unreleased

Disc Six: Audio DVD
96/24 Hi-Resolution Surround Sound Remix
96/24 Hi-Resolution Stereo Downmix
96/24 Hi-Resolution Original Stereo Mix