― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 18:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― dleone (dleone), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 18:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 18:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 18:35 (nineteen years ago) link
>So now I have to account for everyone that uses delay?
if 'frippertronics' = use of delay to layer canonic phrases... then there's a history and a legacy...
― (Jon L), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 18:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 18:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― dleone (dleone), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 18:50 (nineteen years ago) link
No Pussyfooting is a beautiful record... but Fripp naming something as basic as tape delay after himself is laughable. I wish he got called out for that more often.
― (Jon L), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 18:58 (nineteen years ago) link
'Frippertronics is defined as that musical experience which results at the (intersection) of Robert Fripp and a small and appropriate level of technology which is my Les Paul, the Fripple board, the Fripp pedal board of fuzz, wah-wah and volume pedals and two Revoxes.'
I guess that makes it pretty hard for anyone else to do much with Frippertronics!
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 18:59 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.loopers-delight.com/tools/eh16/eh16sec.JPG
original ad for the electro-harmonix EH 16. when fripp read the ad copy in the second paragraph, he contacted them and said 'this Fripp would like one for free'.
http://www.loopers-delight.com/tools/eh16/eh16.html
― (Jon L), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 19:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 19:13 (nineteen years ago) link
someone on Analogue Heaven posted up a review of the new version of this, which has recently come out.
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 19:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― (Jon L), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 19:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 19:28 (nineteen years ago) link
I could quite fancy one of those new A-H boxen actually, there's this bit in my EMS AKS manual about putting the synthesiser in the feedback loop of the delay, and reprocessing the echoes as they come round. I've never had a long enough echo to get any kind of worthwhile effect, plus now I have modular gear!!
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 19:30 (nineteen years ago) link
I just flinch like a loon when I hear discussion of Fripp & Eno's physical innovations, when they were actually nil (though what they accomplished with the delay set up was inspirational, there were many equally amazing records already in wide release) -- dubbing his setup 'Frippertronics' was a brilliant bit of PR that's obscured the discussion on the genre of loop based music. Which is an issue precisely because it's such a big field, a huge outgrowth of electronic, feedback-driven music making in general -- it's all loops. Ways for single performers to make huge amounts of noise.
― (Jon L), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 21:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 00:40 (nineteen years ago) link
past arguments with Fripp fanatics are haunting me, but everyone besides me is being quite reasonable here, so apologies. Let The Power Fall is an outstanding record. The bootlegs are great too, Scary Monsters caliber solos atop the walls...
― (Jon L), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 04:42 (nineteen years ago) link
Also, on the inner sleeve of my God Save the Queen copy on vinyl, he says outright something to the effect of "In fairness, others have used this delay system before me." I'll get the real quote later...
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 12:16 (nineteen years ago) link
"The end of the Drive to 1981 was timed to coincide with an event of astrological significance, an alignment of the planets to take place on September 11, 1981, at which time, Fripp evidently believed, mankind was in for an awakening of apocalyptic import."
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 18:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Sunday, 17 April 2005 15:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 23:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 23:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 03:10 (eighteen years ago) link
How do you mean?
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 03:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 03:16 (eighteen years ago) link
Clearly there's been a demand for Frippertronics and it's our intention to make some of these available as the site grows and develops. More Soundscapes will be uploaded onto the site in the near future and the KC 2003 shows are also currently under consideration.
― I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 03:23 (eighteen years ago) link
Just spoken to Steve Martin of The Agency in NYC. Soundscape performances are about to be confirmed for the end of February in Athens, Atlanta, Chattanooga, Nashville, Memphis, St. Louis & a few others.
― truck-patch pixel farmer (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 14 January 2006 02:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Saturday, 14 January 2006 02:58 (eighteen years ago) link
rad little bit of frippertronics: http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/matte-kudasai-solo/id129950531?i=109855476the Matte Kudasai Solo isolated.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 22:09 (twelve years ago) link
Found an original copy of the Pleasures In Pieces bootleg a while back, which Tamm raves about in his book. Rightly so, it's a gem.
― ban this sick stunt (anagram), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 22:27 (twelve years ago) link
that's this thing right? http://www.dgmlive.com/archive.htm?&show=1172i need to keep up with the DGM Live thing, had no idea they had put out that 1975 eno/fripp show officially.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 22:34 (twelve years ago) link
I thought Pleasure In Pieces was at the Kitchen in SoHo.
― Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 22:39 (twelve years ago) link
oh maybe? i haven't heard it.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 22:52 (twelve years ago) link
Neither have I. Would love to tho. Seems kind of odd DGM hasn't released it.
― Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 26 January 2012 01:01 (twelve years ago) link
yeah it's the Kitchen, Feb 1978
― ban this sick stunt (anagram), Thursday, 26 January 2012 10:04 (twelve years ago) link
And DGM hasn't released it, right?
― Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 26 January 2012 12:42 (twelve years ago) link
correct
also you said you downloaded it upthread :)
― ban this sick stunt (anagram), Thursday, 26 January 2012 13:36 (twelve years ago) link
So I did! I think I may have lost it in The Great Crash of 2011.
― Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 26 January 2012 15:25 (twelve years ago) link
i need this bootleg and yet i cannot find it. these are dark days.
― tylerw, Thursday, 26 January 2012 16:01 (twelve years ago) link
think "no pussyfooting" played at 33 is the greatest album of all time
so ... what up w/ the album art?
― the late great, Saturday, 28 April 2012 21:23 (twelve years ago) link
happy 66th bday robert fripp!
― free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Thursday, 16 May 2013 19:22 (eleven years ago) link
woo. coincidentally was just listening to this for the first time: http://www.guitars101.com/forums/f90/robert-fripp-1979-08-11-toronto-canada-aud-mp3320-a-121738.html
― tylerw, Thursday, 16 May 2013 19:23 (eleven years ago) link
His and Toyah's appearance on All Star Mr. and Mrs. from a week or two ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64VGyoIyBgc
― What makes a man shart fire? (WilliamC), Friday, 17 May 2013 13:43 (eleven years ago) link
did a whole sacred songs/peter gabriel 2/exposure listening marathon last week and it ruled
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 17 May 2013 15:13 (eleven years ago) link
His and Toyah's appearance on All Star Mr. and Mrs. from a week or two ago:
― Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 17 May 2013 15:40 (eleven years ago) link
Frippertronics emulator - VST plugin
http://synth.me/music-gear/elottronix-xl-free-frippertronics-emulator-vst
― WilliamC, Tuesday, 25 June 2013 12:00 (ten years ago) link
bweep-aweepabweep
― Did anybody tell you that your voice is like Abd Al Halim's? (_Rudipherous_), Tuesday, 25 June 2013 15:13 (ten years ago) link
So, you can get mp3s of Fripp's entire 1979 and 1981 Frippertronics tours at DGM Live for $60 and $45 respectively. Kind of cool.
― Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 23 May 2016 00:13 (eight years ago) link
Looks like those are the FLAC prices — mp3s are even cheaper, $46 and $35. Tempting...
― pleas to Nietzsche (WilliamC), Monday, 23 May 2016 00:57 (eight years ago) link
Hostage video vibes there
― Maresn3st, Monday, 14 December 2020 10:20 (three years ago) link
Possibly in standard tuning, too, so yeah, clearly being held prisoner.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 14 December 2020 20:41 (three years ago) link
It's definitely not in standard! Look at his fingers during the bassline in the verse and pick out the notes he's playing: the 6th string is tuned to a low C and the 5th is tuned down to G. Lol at the fingerings he uses to play the power chords.
― They sold me a dream of Christmas (Sund4r), Monday, 14 December 2020 21:09 (three years ago) link
I believe that's Fripp's New Standard Tuning.
― Halfway there but for you, Monday, 14 December 2020 21:22 (three years ago) link
"How can I make 'Smells Like Teen Spirit' hard to play?"
― They sold me a dream of Christmas (Sund4r), Monday, 14 December 2020 21:51 (three years ago) link
Yeah, actually, it did seem a bit weird looking to me. His New Standard is ... cello tuning?
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 14 December 2020 22:19 (three years ago) link
C-G-D-A-E-G from the bottom.
― Halfway there but for you, Monday, 14 December 2020 22:29 (three years ago) link
It's the tuning that was taught in the Guitar Craft seminars. In his book, Eric Tamm describes how the students had to perform a new piece in public in this tuning. Tamm's composition was gentle, melodic and had a recurring C major chord, which made Fripp make retching sounds from the audience.
― Halfway there but for you, Monday, 14 December 2020 22:35 (three years ago) link
Will admit that using that tuning as a baseline standard seems kind of insane to me. Lol though that Fripp would object to someone writing a recurring C major chord in a tuning that spells out a C major pentatonic scale (with octave displacements natch).
― They sold me a dream of Christmas (Sund4r), Monday, 14 December 2020 22:59 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khkKfMotNoI
― StanM, Monday, 11 January 2021 18:17 (three years ago) link
...
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 11 January 2021 18:24 (three years ago) link
Lol at the stretches to play that in Guitar Craft tuning.
They did "Anarchy in the UK" in December as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEiNW4HmFPE
― Sharp! Distance! (Sund4r), Monday, 11 January 2021 18:35 (three years ago) link
I love the idea that after decades of alternate tunings designed to make playing certain things easier, Fripp has devised and perfected the one alternate tuning designed to make everything harder.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 11 January 2021 18:40 (three years ago) link
Content warnings on the comments for that first video
― fish quits shock (Matt #2), Monday, 11 January 2021 18:47 (three years ago) link
lol I knew better than to look until your comment, so I looked, and some of those responses are as funny as they are predictable.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 11 January 2021 18:57 (three years ago) link
They, uh, don't seem to mind the response:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFaQExRwLUM
― Inside there's a box and that box has another box within (Sund4r), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 01:28 (three years ago) link
can't wait for the studies and papers on lockdown syndrome ;)
― Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 01:35 (three years ago) link
I like to imagine Anita Dobson coming down to breakfast, hurling that newspaper headline in the face of Brian May with a disgusted "fucking Toyah!"
Brian thinks back to the last slightly tipsy garden barbeque at the Fripp-Wilcoxes, and sighs with a thought of what could have been, then gets up and slowly potters off to catalogue his plectrums again....
― my opinionation (Hamildan), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 14:32 (three years ago) link
one thing that quarantine has made very clear is that robert fripp fucks...a lot
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 19 April 2021 14:02 (three years ago) link
"Ladies of the Road" already provided a hint.
― Halfway there but for you, Monday, 19 April 2021 14:20 (three years ago) link
ew
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 14:05 (three years ago) link
Great thread revive.
― Authoritarian Steaks (Tom D.), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 14:15 (three years ago) link
Oh! Oh!
― Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 21 April 2021 00:07 (three years ago) link
firestarter!
― StanM, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 07:42 (three years ago) link
(look it up yourself, it's NSFW)
― StanM, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 07:59 (three years ago) link
Man oh man, I love Sundays...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWMY7TVzgcE
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Sunday, 23 May 2021 19:24 (three years ago) link
Fucking hell...
https://www.dgmlive.com/news/robert-fripp-exposures-32-discs-boxed-set-robert-fripp-studio-live-1977-1983
The long-awaited 32-disc boxed set of Robert Fripp in the studio and in concert 1977 - 1983 will be released on 27th May 2022. The set will feature many previously unreleased tracks, outtakes and rarities as well as numbers tracks becoming on CD for the first time.
― Everybody Loves Ramen (WmC), Thursday, 3 March 2022 19:28 (two years ago) link
Holy shit, I'm exhausted just trying to read the tracklisting.
― Maresn3st, Thursday, 3 March 2022 19:39 (two years ago) link
I haven't gotten any of the monster-size KC boxes, but I'll probably be getting this.
― Everybody Loves Ramen (WmC), Thursday, 3 March 2022 20:17 (two years ago) link
Yeah holy fuck, I think this is kind of a mandatory purchase.
― Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 3 March 2022 20:22 (two years ago) link
dear god
WmC I will happily trade you 32 CDRs of your choice for rips/files if/when you get this
― bad milk blood robot (sleeve), Thursday, 3 March 2022 20:24 (two years ago) link
Don't know if this is "the writing project" as mentioned by RF over the years, but https://dgmlive.com/news/the-guitar-circle-book-by-rf
The long-awaited first book from Robert Fripp - 'The Guitar Circle' - collects much of RF's writing about Guitar Craft, as well as his unique approach to guitar playing, collaborating and personal development.
Presented in a limited edition first print hardcover format (and printed on high-end Italian Fedrigoni paper), the book is due to be published on September 1st 2022 by Panegyric Publishing.
This is the first in a series of books to include The DGM Diaries, Crimson Chronicles and membership of King Crimson (1969-2021) and personal commentary on living in New York during and after the recording of Exposure at a point in the late 1970s when New York was the fulcrum of a wider cultural rebirth.
The book will be available via Burning Shed and other major online bookstores from September 1st. Click here to pre-order.(For U.S. customers, the book will be available to pre-order via Inner Knot soon.)
― WmC, Friday, 1 July 2022 19:34 (one year ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAmC8VRxC1g
― calstars, Friday, 16 September 2022 01:58 (one year ago) link
Success. Frippertronics rig set up in the "traditional" way. In other words, no mixer, no extra delay and one cable between playback and record machines. pic.twitter.com/sQ1HyFUiXe— tarotplane (@tarotplane_) February 9, 2023
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 10 February 2023 14:32 (one year ago) link