― Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 22:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― haitch (haitch), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 23:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 00:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― rogermexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 00:18 (eighteen years ago) link
1.Sway2...Knocking3.Dead Flowers4.Brown Sugar5.Moonlight Mile6.Wild Horses7.Bitch8.Sister Morphine9.You Gotta Move10.I Got The Blues
― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 00:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― rogermexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 00:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 00:56 (eighteen years ago) link
Me too. It's a great track.
10th best song on Sticky Fingers >>>>>>>>>> 99.999% rest of shit ever recorded.
― Keith C (kcraw916), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 01:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― chris andrews (fraew), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 03:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 04:37 (eighteen years ago) link
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― Flyboy (Flyboy), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 11:41 (eighteen years ago) link
1. Keith joining Mick on the last verse of "Brown Sugar"2. The strings at the end of "Sway"3. The delicate 3-guitar intro to "Wild Horses"4. Hearing Mick yell "Hey" down in the mix at the beginning of the jam part of "CYHMK"5. The drums in "You Gotta Move"6. The horn riff on "Bitch"7. The emotional build-up in the last verse of "I Got the Blues"8. Ry Cooder's slide solo on "Sister Morphine"9. The "with a needle and a spoon" line in "Dead Flowers"10. "YEAHHH...I'M COMING HOME" at the end of "Moonlight Mile"
― Keith C (kcraw916), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 11:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 11:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― Patrick (Patrick), Thursday, 11 August 2005 00:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― -vest, Thursday, 11 August 2005 01:09 (eighteen years ago) link
As posted in the US Tour announcement today on FB:
The tour will also coincide with the Rolling Stones re-release of Sticky Fingers on May 26 in North America, and May 25 in the rest of the world, by Universal Music. Sticky Fingers, one of the most revered albums from the Rolling Stones, is set to enthrall a new generation of fans in 2015. The 1971 classic features timeless tracks such as ‘Brown Sugar,’ ‘Wild Horses,’ ‘Bitch’ and ‘Dead Flowers’. Sticky Fingers 2015, with its iconic zip cover, will be unveiled in a variety of formats. The deluxe editions include a generous selection of previously unreleased Stones studio outtakes from the Sticky Fingers sessions and stunning live performances from that time. These sought after tracks have never been available until this release.Recorded in Muscle Shoals, Alabama and Olympic Studios in London, and produced by regular confidant Jimmy Miller, Sticky Fingers was released just before the Stones became tax exiles in the south of France, leaving Britain after a sensational farewell tour. It also featured some of the most ground breaking design in rock history, with its famous working zip on the front cover and artwork by Andy Warhol.
― Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 18:57 (nine years ago) link
Having just attended last night's glorified DVD projection of Led Zep concert footage ('Fathom' theater 'events' ... of course Peter Grant era branding company was called 'Superhype' - indeed!), which seemingly was out just to promote the 40th anniversary 'Super Deluxe' Physical Graffiti box set, color me surprised.
― BlackIronPrison, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 19:10 (nine years ago) link
Calling it a Zip Code Tour because the cover of yr album 40 yrs ago had a zipper on it is some cold-blooded laziness, even for the Stones.
― chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 20:10 (nine years ago) link
Dead FlowersSwayWild horsesMoonlight mileCan you hear me knocking?BitchI got the bluesBrown sugar
You gotta move
― primal, intuitive, and relatively unmediated (Treeship), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 20:37 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrsToLa3XEo
― Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 28 May 2015 00:23 (nine years ago) link
I refuse to put You Gotta Move last for anything!
― Iago Galdston, Thursday, 28 May 2015 00:28 (nine years ago) link
Jagger discusses the composition and recording of "Moonlight Mile" at length:
http://www.wsj.com/articles/mick-jagger-and-moonlight-mile-1432735648
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 May 2015 17:36 (nine years ago) link
oh man I love Dead Flowers so much - where is that version from? doesn't quite have the laid back swing of the official version. I've always liked to think of it as future old rich asshole Jagger singing to young junkie asshole Jagger
― Οὖτις, Friday, 29 May 2015 17:53 (nine years ago) link
I believe that "Dead Flowers" is a live in the studio run through-- the official lit is calling it "The Byrd's Version" because Taylor is playing a 12-string or something.
― Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 29 May 2015 18:01 (nine years ago) link
Wow, in a defiant turn against the tide, Target's exclusive edition of the CD earns its exclusivity by including a redemption code for a VINYL copy of the O.G. album 'to be delivered to your own door'.
― Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 11 June 2015 23:46 (nine years ago) link
oh my god this album is so good.
so, i dunno. maybe something like:
SwayMoonlight MileWild Horses*BitchDead FlowersCan’t You Hear Me KnockingBrown SugarYou Gotta MoveI Got the BluesSister Morphine
*i might prefer gram parsons’s version, actually, but you can’t fuck with this
― he quipped with heat (amateurist), Friday, 12 June 2015 00:39 (nine years ago) link
alt version of Dead Flowers upthread is interesting. Guitars are out of tune and vocals are flat, and Jagger's southern affectations are more conspicuous and excruciating than ever, but somehow this still rules
― Wimmels, Friday, 12 June 2015 01:24 (nine years ago) link
Wild HorsesCan't You Hear Me KnockingDead FlowersSwayMoonlight MileBrown SugarBitchSister MorphineYou Gotta MoveI Got The Blues
Rolling Stones 1968-1972 is the most unfuckwithable run in music history
― thom yorke state of mind (voodoo chili), Friday, 12 June 2015 15:58 (nine years ago) link
SwayMoonlight MileBrown SugarDead FlowersCan't You Hear Me KnockingWild HorsesBitchYou Gotta MoveI Got the BluesSister Morphine
Ha, same top two and bottom three as amateurist's
― bunny slopes, Friday, 12 June 2015 21:00 (nine years ago) link
I love the stones and have no problem with hyperboles but even without going very far from their times and genre, Stevie Wonder's 72-76 is arguably even more unfuckwithable !
― AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 12 June 2015 21:59 (nine years ago) link
Music does not get better.
― kornrulez6969, Friday, 12 June 2015 22:02 (nine years ago) link
it just gets sick and dies
― Οὖτις, Friday, 12 June 2015 22:04 (nine years ago) link
Or in the Stones case, it just gets weaker
― kornrulez6969, Friday, 12 June 2015 22:12 (nine years ago) link
SwayMoonlight MileWild HorsesDead FlowersCant You Hear Me KnockingBitchBrown SugarSister MorphineI Got The BluesYou Gotta Move
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 12 June 2015 23:35 (nine years ago) link
wanted to just list Sway over and over tbh
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 12 June 2015 23:37 (nine years ago) link
i mean all the songs are great but Sway
jesus
any of these:moonlight milecan't you hear me knockingsway
followed by this:you gotta move
then any of these:wild horsesbrown sugardead flowers
then these:i got the bluesbitchsister morphine
― fact checking cuz, Friday, 12 June 2015 23:41 (nine years ago) link
bitch is a jam tho! the horns slay me
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 12 June 2015 23:44 (nine years ago) link
they're all jams! my bottom three, anybody's bottom three, slay most other band's careers.
― fact checking cuz, Friday, 12 June 2015 23:48 (nine years ago) link
This is the first time in a long time that I've put on a deluxe reissue and been just blown away by the album itself, to the point where I've put off listening to the bonus stuff. Usually it's the other way around.
Can't You Hear Me Knocking at the top, Wild Horses at the bottom only because I've heard it too many times. And yeah, at the moment I'm thinking this might be the best rock and roll album ever made.
― dlp9001, Saturday, 13 June 2015 01:10 (nine years ago) link
three least favorite: blues, morphine, wild horses
― big fat rascal (will), Saturday, 13 June 2015 01:15 (nine years ago) link
substitute "...Knocking" and yeah
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 13 June 2015 01:40 (nine years ago) link
i dig knocking! replace which one?
― big fat rascal (will), Saturday, 13 June 2015 01:42 (nine years ago) link
Replace "Knocking' with "Sway."
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 13 June 2015 01:54 (nine years ago) link
replace everything with sway
― mookieproof, Saturday, 13 June 2015 02:02 (nine years ago) link
I wish the outtakes on the new edition were better. It seems they put the best versions on the original album. (Imagine that!)
― calstars, Saturday, 13 June 2015 02:02 (nine years ago) link
wild horses just gets me, i've heard it so many times but it's so beautiful - harmony chorus cannot be fucked with
also ~keef~ high harmony <3
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 13 June 2015 02:14 (nine years ago) link
you can hear Keith's voice clearly on the outtake of Brown Sugar with Clapton. Probably the best moments of the track.
― calstars, Saturday, 13 June 2015 02:18 (nine years ago) link
spoilers man, i'm still stuck on disc 1 lol
keef on any harmony pretty much gives me life though, love him
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 13 June 2015 02:20 (nine years ago) link
I expect it wasn't the first time the comparison had been made.
― A Drunk Man Looks At Partick Thistle (Tom D.), Monday, 23 January 2023 17:48 (one year ago) link
Santana covered the song too
― George Santos' If I Could Only Remember My Name - C or D? (President Keyes), Monday, 23 January 2023 17:49 (one year ago) link
The source page for that quote also has Mick saying:
We did this at Olympic and the jam at the end was an afterthought. It comes in two pieces, this rock song with this added jam. It's slightly Carlos Santana-like, Mick Taylor plays a bit of that style, I think. I don't think we meant that, but somehow it added on and I think this was done really quickly, too.
― Vexatious litigant (morrisp), Monday, 23 January 2023 17:50 (one year ago) link
There's a bit of "East-West" in there too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvWvOwLCWGg
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 23 January 2023 18:21 (one year ago) link
I guess it would have to be "Moonlight Mile", which is probably the one I'd be least likely to listen to as a stand-alone track, but don't get me wrong, it's still a good song, and it's better than good in the context of the album, where it kind of feels like a glimpse of redemption as the first rays of sun peak through the curtains after a long night of doing things that are not great for one's health.
Moonlight Mile is my favorite song on the album, though I might like it a bit less now that I just found out the lyric isn't "I'm just living to be dying by your side" which I thought was a cool inversion and Mick/Keith's take on a VU-style drug ode like Heroin.
― Unfairport Convention (PBKR), Monday, 23 January 2023 18:39 (one year ago) link
xps the song is expressing their disgust with slavery and imperialism much like stray cat blues is expressing their disgust with men molesting teenagers and under my thumb is expressing their disgust with patriarchal abuse and midnight rambler etc
I'm pretty sure all this was seen as fucked up at the time - that's what made it edgy - but BS is the kind of thing that would end a band in a just world and the half century of rock fans and critics defending and celebrating it is a repulsive spectacle
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Monday, 23 January 2023 18:56 (one year ago) link
it's bad enough that I think of this album as one I hate even though I enjoy 80% of it to varying degrees
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Monday, 23 January 2023 18:57 (one year ago) link
unlike the morally spotless avatars of rightiousness who exist today, the stones had the indecency to incriminate even themselves.
― Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 23 January 2023 19:12 (one year ago) link
note how "scarred old slaver" in the first verse becomes "i" later in the song.
― Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 23 January 2023 19:16 (one year ago) link
greil marcus thinking it through in real time:https://greilmarcus.net/2014/08/06/rolling-stones-sticky-fingers-1071/
― Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 23 January 2023 19:24 (one year ago) link
as a text it's certainly more generative than the average racist or sexist classic rock song and it does kind of give the game away- if white rock in general is the GOP then brown sugar is trump. but you don't have to hand it to them for nailing the ugliness at the heart of the genre so vividly
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Monday, 23 January 2023 19:34 (one year ago) link
I see Greil provides another touchpoint for the "CYHMK" jam:
(T)he song rocks through its few minutes of glory like few songs ever have. If they eventually blow the performance by jerking the listener, as if someone had punched a button from WROK to WJAZ, into a pleasant and pallid excursion into what reminds me more of the Ventures than anything else, then again, this is part of their confusion and their inability to know what to do with their music, their talent, and their own best impulses.
― Vexatious litigant (morrisp), Monday, 23 January 2023 19:43 (one year ago) link
xpost and merging it with their most concise and powerful rocker into the bargain. i think it is a mistake to equate sexist classic rock with the GOP, thereby safely placing it "over there" and enabling anyone else to wash their hands of any inconvenient truths. but maybe that's why i'm persona non grata on the politics threads.
― Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 23 January 2023 19:45 (one year ago) link
sure i'm complicit in racial capitalism and my repudiation of mick jagger is in part an attempt to distance myself from that unpleasant fact
is it hypocritical to find his wallowing and savouring of his position distasteful
― Left, Monday, 23 January 2023 19:55 (one year ago) link
short of abolishing myself or embracing the worst of reality the options seem to be to throw my hands up and say it's complicated or to bitch and moan about the worst excesses in the hope that they become harder to defend more generally and then idk
― Left, Monday, 23 January 2023 19:59 (one year ago) link
i'm not going to defend the song and i am sure there are many things about the stones' personal lives i do not want to know about. wyman's marriage to a teenager, for instance, was revolting, and i'm sure there would be more dirt if i dug into it. but i don't think that means i need to put away my stones records forever or anything. at this point these records are over 50 years old; dipping into them is like pulling out my copy of moby dick. they're just there, part of the culture.
― treeship., Monday, 23 January 2023 20:00 (one year ago) link
the most insidious thing about them was probably the misogyny, actually. but like, understanding this aspect of their music and rock culture in the 60s and 70s helps explain the limitations and even the failures of the counterculture. i don't know what cancelling would accomplish at this point except whitewashing this history.
― treeship., Monday, 23 January 2023 20:03 (one year ago) link
Greil's question seems apt:
The leer may be a parody, but is it still a leer?
And I think the answer is yes. The song in a way is a descendant of noir novels like Jim Thompson's The Killer Inside Me that trick you into rooting for a sociopath and then leave you wriggling on the hook to deal with your own feelings of guilt afterwards. Irony is no defense. I don't think the song should be defended. Its extremely toxic. Luckily its much easier to avoid now than I guess it was in the summer when Greil was writing that piece and it was blaring from every FM radio.
― o. nate, Monday, 23 January 2023 20:12 (one year ago) link
lolita is like this too, i think
― treeship., Monday, 23 January 2023 20:14 (one year ago) link
the culture is kind of shit in a lot of ways (sure so am i as a product of it). there is racism in moby dick (in a vaguely similar semi-knowing kind of way) and calling that out isn't the same as wanting to burn it or being unable to understand nuance and complexity or whatever. the kids who don't like huck finn aren't wrong or stupid or unable to understand what it's trying to do either, they just know it's not good enough. if that's cancel culture then i'm all for it
― Left, Monday, 23 January 2023 20:18 (one year ago) link
"Moonlight Mile" is the greatest closing track of the era, minimum.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 23 January 2023 20:20 (one year ago) link
i still prefer exile, but nothing on that is as good as dead flowers
― treeship., Monday, 23 January 2023 20:21 (one year ago) link
"Loving Cup" is.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 23 January 2023 20:22 (one year ago) link
"Sister Moonlight"s sometimes too affected for me to enjoy until Ry Cooder's solo slaps my face.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 January 2023 20:23 (one year ago) link
frankly they peaked with she's a rainbow / 2000 light years and i wish they (and other psych bands) hadn't felt the need to retreat into the rootsy bluesy manly rut they've largely been stuck in since 68
― Left, Monday, 23 January 2023 20:29 (one year ago) link
i love that stuff too but i disagree
― treeship., Monday, 23 January 2023 20:30 (one year ago) link
idk they got pretty swishy with the rock-disco stuff later in the decade. I wish they'd recorded an album's worth of "Let Me Go" and "When the Whip Comes Down"s.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 January 2023 20:30 (one year ago) link
"am i rough enough?"
― treeship., Monday, 23 January 2023 20:32 (one year ago) link
"Waiting on a Friend" was their last great song.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 23 January 2023 20:34 (one year ago) link
Best four-album run in rock history, hands down.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 23 January 2023 20:35 (one year ago) link
frankly they peaked with she's a rainbow / 2000 light years
I'm glad you're speaking out with such frankness, but, as much as I love "She's a Rainbow," that strikes me as absurd.
― clemenza, Monday, 23 January 2023 20:41 (one year ago) link
rootsy bluesy manly rut
One of the things that makes Beggars Banquet my choice for best Stones album is that they retained a lot of the psychedelic haze that was soon cleared away by Mick Taylor, saxophones, and the whole barroom ambience.
― Halfway there but for you, Monday, 23 January 2023 21:10 (one year ago) link
stripped is good, imo
― not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Monday, 23 January 2023 21:29 (one year ago) link
their best disco is dance part 2 (if I was a dancer)