like you can go out to a random club in any county town and they will regularly drop 'gravel pit' or something
go england! :) :) :)
i think bands like fucking champs and oxxes are regarded as pop stars in chicago too
hahahahaha oh no u didn't....whiney will u just make me happy and say that powerhouse sound is bigger than gucci mane?
― it's detlef season, you schrempfs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 22:35 (thirteen years ago) link
i mean, i can see gucci being huge in chicago. tbf, it is a big "pitchfork town" with drag city and thrill jockey and numero group and everything. i think bands like fucking champs and oxxes are regarded as pop stars in chicago too
hahahahahahahahaha
― hoes on my dick cos my groceries bagged (tpp), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 22:35 (thirteen years ago) link
fyi: oxxxes never even played a joint bigger than big vs in mpls and we eat that shit UP here
― it's detlef season, you schrempfs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 22:36 (thirteen years ago) link
i think pelican regularly sells out the Empty Bottle, so Gucci could prolly do the same
― Vuvuzola Jesus (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 22:38 (thirteen years ago) link
his new song with earthless is pretty good tbh
― it's detlef season, you schrempfs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 22:38 (thirteen years ago) link
ha yeah <3 that you can go out on a friday night and still expect to hear say dead prez's hiphop or any busta single or dmx or whatever xposts
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 22:38 (thirteen years ago) link
whiney can you not help but be an asshole?
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 22:38 (thirteen years ago) link
Oxes were a 'big deal' in Baltimore but in an era when no rock band from Baltimore was genuinely a big deal in any meaningful sense
― ripe dink (some dude), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 22:39 (thirteen years ago) link
we're actually having a legit conversation here, save your self-hating deej zings for when it's only you too throwing wet paper towel balls at each other
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 22:39 (thirteen years ago) link
you two
oxxxes were fucking great live, they ran all over the fucking place cuz they had wireless units on, super fun, love the first (?) album where the cover is them at some business meeting
― it's detlef season, you schrempfs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 22:40 (thirteen years ago) link
Now I’m rich as a republican stay flyer than pelicanI’m ridin’ in my new yellow Benz with yellow rims and yellow tint
http://soundcloud.com/hoodinternet/the-hood-internet-pillz-between-the-wallz-gucci-mane-x-pelican/comments
― Vuvuzola Jesus (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 22:40 (thirteen years ago) link
this tangent is almost as boring as when sam and lex started about what rappers are popular in the uk
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 22:41 (thirteen years ago) link
― ripe dink (some dude), Wednesday, June 30, 2010 10:39 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
weird, i guess from afar i figure lungfish was big
wasn't clutch from bodymore murderland?
― it's detlef season, you schrempfs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 22:42 (thirteen years ago) link
was the whole oxes album art thing a huge gossipy thing in baltimore at its time?
― Vuvuzola Jesus (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 22:44 (thirteen years ago) link
Clutch are kind of from a wierd rural Maryland no man's land, wouldn't make sense for any major city to claim them it feels like
j0rdan, deej totally picked a fight w/ whiney and pretty much invited him to come on this thread and crack jokes, i don't blame whiney at all for taking the bait for once
― ripe dink (some dude), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 22:44 (thirteen years ago) link
i don't feel like it was any more gossipy here than just on the net in general, but i don't really know many people around the rock scene at that time.
"for once"???
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 22:45 (thirteen years ago) link
y'all wanna figure out who is popular, see who fucking makes it out of yr third world country
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 22:45 (thirteen years ago) link
i think you mean, "for once, this week"
haha yeah let's get some UK/US sniping on this just to make it all complete
― Q and Not Gucci (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 22:47 (thirteen years ago) link
fyi, j0rdan, if you go back to when i said i would stop the whiney/deej gucci beef, I had kept that promise. deej is the one who did the "warriors come out and play" bit with me, so you can blame him, ya asshole
― Vuvuzola Jesus (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 22:48 (thirteen years ago) link
i always blame deej!
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 22:48 (thirteen years ago) link
was just talking abt my personal experience of ppl liking or not liking american rappers! sorry for living in the uk ffs! back the gucci-pitchfork saga then
― hoes on my dick cos my groceries bagged (tpp), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 22:49 (thirteen years ago) link
anything to stop the fucking whiney deej handbags. i once ate a pizza with sweetcorn on guyz!
― samuel :D (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 22:49 (thirteen years ago) link
tpp the gravel pit thing warmed my heart thanking u! :)
― Q and Not Gucci (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 23:02 (thirteen years ago) link
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f14/snouts/2hzr39l.gif
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 23:15 (thirteen years ago) link
― Vuvuzola Jesus (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, June 30, 2010 5:33 PM (57 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
tbf pretty sure this is the first time whiney g has made gucci=hipster lol remarks where it was actually trolling & not on a serious "the only ppl who like gucci are hipsters!!!" disconnected bs
― blap...tremendo (deej), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 23:36 (thirteen years ago) link
― ripe dink (some dude), Wednesday, June 30, 2010 5:44 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
i picked on his lame 'review' i didnt say anything about 'hipsters'
― blap...tremendo (deej), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 23:49 (thirteen years ago) link
neither did he except obliquely as a joke
― ripe dink (some dude), Thursday, 1 July 2010 01:24 (thirteen years ago) link
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, June 30, 2010 6:45 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
yes he always takes the bait, i meant that for once i'm not mad at dude for it because deej was dickish with the way he brought it up
― ripe dink (some dude), Thursday, 1 July 2010 01:25 (thirteen years ago) link
rtc i need to get on rss feed you get your amazing gifs from
― youngdel griffith (k3vin k.), Thursday, 1 July 2010 01:32 (thirteen years ago) link
get on whatever rss feed
― youngdel griffith (k3vin k.), Thursday, 1 July 2010 01:33 (thirteen years ago) link
so tom b. wrote a pfork review of the mixtape -- in the scale of pfork rap scores it got a pretty great rating, but i wonder why tom always insists on making a point of what he perceives to be gucci's "stupidity", or at least the "stupidity" of his punchlines -- i'm not accusing him of being an actual racist or a region racist, as tom's writing on southern rap speaks for itself, but his gucci reviews almost function as the snake eating its own tail (maybe two steps forward and one step back would be a better analogy!) -- obv he has to write these reviews knowing that there's still a segment of people (rap fans and normal pfork readers alike) that think that gucci (and any southern rapper in his ilk) is a joke, and of course tom mentions this in his review, and yet he still seems to hedge his bets by flogging this worthless "stupidly awesome..... OR IS IT AWESOMELY STUPID?" bit and quoting lines from the tape that are gucci at his most crass -- the cassanova/bend ya ova and twitpic/dick lines work in the context of the album as gucci goofing around and puffing his chest out, but in the context of a pitchfork review it represents that sort of "one step back", where he sets a tone in the review of, and explicitly says, "gucci is a seriously great rapper! everyone should take him seriously!" but takes out of context quotes that reinforces the exact stereotype that he is trying to dismantle the review -- i don't see why, for instance, he quotes lines illustrating gucci's "non-illmatic levels of insight" (this almost reads as a concession to the current patrin/wale era of pfork rap coverage) but doesn't quote the myriad lines where gucci displays the ability to "jam as many syllables as possible into a quick-rewind clump" or whatever
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 07:56 (thirteen years ago) link
trying to dismantle IN the review
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 08:06 (thirteen years ago) link
just want to say thx for all the transcriptions upthread jordan. they ~enhanced~ my experience of listening to this tremendously.
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Friday, 2 July 2010 08:26 (thirteen years ago) link
no problem! tbh i don't transcribe the gucci lyrics to show off his lyrical prowess (not completely at least), i do it because it really does enhance my listening experiences tremendously as well
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 08:34 (thirteen years ago) link
if i had the desire/time to sit and read rap lyrics while i listened to albums (as opposed to, like, posting to ilx or playing video games) i think my opinions would solidify much more quickly and i'd be more confident in them
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 08:36 (thirteen years ago) link
i've been toying with the idea of making a separate blog to collect all past/future gucci mane lyrics in one place (aside from this thread of course)
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 08:40 (thirteen years ago) link
you should. the ones that aren't on lyrics sites already. i mean it'd just be c/ping for the most part.
i always make a point of listening to new rap on headphones while walking around, i find it much easier to take in the lyrics then. gucci's enunciation is def one of the less comprehensible out there tho, which is a huge reason why some people don't get him - his lyricism are his forte, his selling point, but if people don't hear what they are w/o paying real attention then...
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Friday, 2 July 2010 08:57 (thirteen years ago) link
You bring up a good point, Lex. Even listening to "Shine Blockas," it's like certain producers are unsure how to mix the guy's vocals... I mean, the "Shine Blockas" beat could be to blame too, but I mean, it's hard to make out what the guy says on that song at points, unless you're listening very carefully.
― rennavate, Friday, 2 July 2010 09:00 (thirteen years ago) link
that's really just a general problem
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 09:04 (thirteen years ago) link
and by "problem" i mean insofar as newbies "getting him" and understanding why he's good or if you're literally transcribing every word as we do
otherwise his enunciation is obv a total asset to him as a rapper
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 09:06 (thirteen years ago) link
But Zaytoven beats have this problem to a lesser extent, I find.
And I agree, I can't stop playing Zone 6.
― rennavate, Friday, 2 July 2010 09:06 (thirteen years ago) link
well zaytoven beats almost always have tons of open space
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 July 2010 09:07 (thirteen years ago) link
And Zay has been working with Gucci for a long time and, I would assume, knows how to compensate for his quarks.
― The Reverend, Friday, 2 July 2010 09:22 (thirteen years ago) link
quarks!! a+ typo
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Friday, 2 July 2010 09:23 (thirteen years ago) link
ha oops
― The Reverend, Friday, 2 July 2010 09:25 (thirteen years ago) link
that was genuine not knowing how to spell correctly u_u
― The Reverend, Friday, 2 July 2010 09:26 (thirteen years ago) link
but who knows, Zaytoven might know a thing or two about subatomic particles
― The Reverend, Friday, 2 July 2010 09:27 (thirteen years ago) link