― goodoldneon (goodoldneon), Monday, 8 August 2005 18:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― my favorite cover band, crystal shit (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 8 August 2005 18:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― my favorite cover band, crystal shit (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 8 August 2005 18:49 (eighteen years ago) link
1. They have similar singing voices -- a low boomy range that projects out over the whole mix.
2. They have similar quirks of diction, both in terms of enunciation and word-choice -- see "Katrina's Fair" for the line "a journal laced with sedimentary prose," which is all-Morrissey and delivered like it, too. (Conversely, imagine 10,000 Maniacs covering "Ask.")
3. They both write abnormally character-based songs about one type of character -- Morrissey's teenage thugs and Merchant's human-interest cases.
4. They're both obsessed with the working class of the middle of the 20th century -- Morrissey's kitchen-sink and teakettle Englishness, Merchant's Catholic-immigrant union-worker upstate-NYness.
5. Merchant had a personal assistant named Morrissey, Morrissey had a personal assistant named Merchant.
6. "Hateful Hate" = "Meat is Murder," overblown to the point of camp, except that Morrissey cares about cattle and Merchant cares about Africans.
7. Both were rumored, during my freshman year of high school, to be sleeping with Michael Stipe.
8. I admit that Brittle Lemon is right about "if you don't mind / I will beat on your behind" not being quite as good as "a crack on the head / is what you get for (not) asking."
9. Both started off from a point of seeming totally sheltered and bookish and awkward and virginal, and writing in a way often described as "pretentious" about their bedroom enthusiasms. Merchant went to college and therefore obsessed about bookish things (you can seriously figure out her course schedule from the Hope Chest lyrics; hello song-about-De-Chirico), whereas Morrissey, to my knowledge, stayed home and therefore mostly thought about sex and his mother and sex with his mother.
10. Their last names both start with M / I freakin' said so.
― nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 8 August 2005 18:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 August 2005 18:56 (eighteen years ago) link
Hahahahahaha
― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 August 2005 18:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― Mark (MarkR), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:26 (eighteen years ago) link
yeah, community college!
― my favorite cover band, crystal shit (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― my favorite cover band, crystal shit (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― my favorite cover band, crystal shit (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:42 (eighteen years ago) link
while at the same time showing very little comprehension and a heap of self righteousness.
cue "Gun Shy" from In My Tribe.
― Dr. Walter Freeman (Grodd), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 00:34 (eighteen years ago) link
*goes to cry bitterly*
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 00:43 (eighteen years ago) link
blind man's zoo is pretty awful though, it + traumatic experience meeting her totally outweighing what fond feelings i felt towards 'like the weather' or those late era tunes that probably remind me of clinton coming into office more than anything (except 'don't stop' maybe).
― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 00:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 00:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 01:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 01:18 (eighteen years ago) link
what the hell do you know? who are you, anyway?
― my favorite cover band, crystal shit (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 01:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― don weiner (don weiner), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 01:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 01:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 01:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 01:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 01:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 01:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 01:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― my favorite cover band, crystal shit (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 01:31 (eighteen years ago) link
She's an ugly girl, does it make you want to kill her?She's an ugly girl, do you want to kick in her face?She's an ugly girl, she doesn't pose a threat.She's an ugly girl, does that make you feel safe?Ugly girl, ugly girl, do you hate herCause she's pieces of you?
She's a pretty girl, does she make you think nasty thoughts?She's a pretty girl, do you want to tie her down?She's a pretty girl, do you call her a bitch?She's a pretty girl, did she sleep with your whole town?Pretty girl, pretty girl, do you hate herCause she's pieces of you?
You say he's a faggot, does it make you want to hurt him?You say he's a faggot, do you want to bash in his brain?You say he's a faggot, does he make you sick to your stomach?You say he's a faggot, are you afraid you're just the same?Faggot, Faggot, do you hate himCause he's pieces of you?
You say he's a Jew, does it mean that he's tight?You say he's a Jew, do you want to hurt his kids tonight?You say he's a Jew, he'll never wear that funny hat again.You say he's a Jew as though being born were a sin.Oh Jew, oh Jew, do you hate himCause he's pieces of you?
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 01:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Black Giggletits (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 01:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 01:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 01:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― don weiner (don weiner), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 01:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― donut ferry (donut), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 01:46 (eighteen years ago) link
Oh God, that Jewel song -- how did my mother manage to listen to that crap? Oh yeah, I remember, impressionable influence from ex-boyfriend. Before 1997 she used to make fun of Jewel.
― Ian Riese-Moraine: a casualty of social estrangement. (Eastern Mantra), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 01:47 (eighteen years ago) link
I must now slay humanity.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 01:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 01:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 01:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 01:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 01:58 (eighteen years ago) link
You still want it?
― don weiner (don weiner), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 02:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 02:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― don weiner (don weiner), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 02:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― nabiscothingy, Tuesday, 9 August 2005 03:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 03:34 (eighteen years ago) link
I quote one review that mentions lyrics, triggering a back-and-forth about the merit of those particular lyrics, and now ILM gives a shit about lyrical content as a whole? Wow!
I am so so so proud of Dan's new handle it isn't even funny.
― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 04:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― geoff (gcannon), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 07:44 (eighteen years ago) link
This statement makes no sense. People on ILM who don't care about lyrical content have always been in the minorty and even among that group, it has never been the case that egregiously bad, intellectually offensive lyrics have been given a free pass, particularly when the accompanying music isn't stellar (for varying values of the word "stellar" obv).
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 11:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ian Riese-Moraine: a casualty of social estrangement. (Eastern Mantra), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 11:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 12:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 12:18 (eighteen years ago) link
blount your otm point about the reparations remark is kinda undone by sexist crap like this
― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 12:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 12:57 (eighteen years ago) link