Dr Dre: Classic or Dud ?

ooh-wee

i love how back in the 90s Dre could just like not appear on thelast 5 tracks of The Chronic and nobody batted an eyelid....

from a rapping perspective that is

it was more like everyone knew he couldn't rap for shit so no biggie

ahh i know the album doesn't suffer at all for it (hell STranded on Death Row is a highlight) but with the way people whine against the strawman of "too many guests on albums" nowadays, I wonder whether people woulda whined more back then

how is "too many guests on albums" a "strawman"

I can see "bullshit complaint"/"complaint with which I'm not sympathetic" but unless there are ppl sayin "there's too many guests on this album" when there are actually no guests at all...you know?

that's mostly the fault of me not finishing my thought completely, me bads.

i meant to say it's a strawman referring to examples of the people who say "the reason I dislike rap these days as opposed to the old days is cuz there's too many guests now", as if to imply that back in the day, having 2-5 guests per song wasn't as prevalent and that solo artists were more likely to dominate an album by themselves (that said, i haven't seen anybody on ilx posit this). frankly i think it's a ridiculous idea cuz I'd argue the opposite -- that 90s albums were more guest heavy. at least the ones i have.

err and that isn't a strawman at all, either...i blame lack of coffee. substitute phrase "bs argument"

who among us has celebrated dre day?
http://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/dr-dre-birthday-jordan-years-mic-terror-opus-comeups-trew-big-once-kool-hersh/Content?oid=3263964

Beats By Dr. Dre now sells more than half of the country’s premium headphones (http://www.forbes.com/sites/zackomalleygreenburg/2012/09/05/cash-kings-2012-hip-hops-top-earners/00 and up). ... With http://www.forbes.com/sites/zackomalleygreenburg/2012/09/05/cash-kings-2012-hip-hops-top-earners/10 million in pretax earnings, Dr. Dre is this year’s Hip-Hop Cash King—despite the fact that his long-awaited album, Detox, remains on the shelf.

ugh formatting

anyway

Dre earned $110 mil in one year selling headphones

http://www.forbes.com/sites/zackomalleygreenburg/2012/09/05/cash-kings-2012-hip-hops-top-earners/

jordan tweeted this the other day & it made me lol:

haters say dre fell off / how, my last single featured skylar grey

^ a lol

http://i.imgur.com/OQXD4.jpg

was that supposed to be a link to the la weekly piece on the chronic or am I missing something

I have no idea who she is but dayo's looking at her neck

*googles "la weekly chronic"*

10 Jazz Albums to Listen to Before You Read Our Piece on "The Chronic"

that is former CA GOP gubernatorial candidate Meg Whitman

beats by meg

worth reading anyway

http://blogs.laweekly.com/westcoastsound/2012/11/making_of_the_chronic_dre_death_row.php

yeah it's a fun read, but pretty deceptive to call it "The Making of The Chronic" when it literally doesn't mention even the title of a single song on the album, much less any real details about the recording experience beyond "there was a guy who brought food to us in the studio, we called him the 'chicken man'"

well in fairness I would suspect that recollections about the exact process of making a record called The Chronic are a little, wait for it, hazy

and that some of the most vivid memories are "and then the one guy who brought the food showed up, fucking A that was amazing food"

i wonder when dre is doing all these business deals and people meet him and say 'how do you do doctor dre' do they feel weird like hey wait a minute you're not a doctor why should i… but then it's too late

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaxZ8XsN0xo

what is that the same joke or something, i have never clicked on any video you have ever posted

i'm sure someone as smart as you can figure it out

be that as it may i'm still never clicking

a great loss

i think i just figured out who you are lol

people, if you don't want me to figure out who you are, don't attack me under your old name and then get a new one and do the same thing

it's not me btw marks if you think it's y'know that one guy with the initial j who used to get into it w/you

he's Mr. Que too?

or Enri-QUE?

lol aero.

i'm not gonna out him.

sorry bro, your investigation has not produced the clues you think it has, but stay on the case, the mayor really wants results on this one

i don't even know if i'm 100% right, but i'm not gonna do it.

j., i have barely interacted with you under this name. i have no idea what your deal is. but anyway

and my youtube was on topic this time

aw :( xxpost

well I guess a Dr. Dre thread of all places is acceptable to 'express yourself'

i'm glad i didn't say anything because, after a little more digging, my initial hunch has a much, much higher probability of being wrong and might even just be flat out wrong. too bad! alright, i'm peaceing from this thread now.

http://www.gigwise.com/news/57749/Dr-Dre-To-Release-Instrumental-Hip-Hop-Album-About-The-Solar-System
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uh, notwithstanding this beef that I have no idea about, it would seem that this is the place to talk about very significant news, right?

seeing as I don't read the tech press like maybe I should…

1. would this be the most significant purchase Apple has made in order to consolidate its future? most significant in a long time? Like Jobs was always "we make our own shit that everybody wants, we don't appropriate some other company's innovations"…but they haven't put out anything in a while that knocked any socks off… now that paid DLs are declining, they are spooked by Spotify, obv…

2. always thought it striking that their headphones sucked so bad. not shocking, as they make their shit for the quotidians, who don't have an awareness of good audio quality, or don't care…point of reference: I recently bought my first ever downloads ever from the Apple Store, and now I know that Neil Young is not being some old contrary coot: that shit is indeed inferior.

Neil Young is not being some old contrary coot: that shit is indeed inferior

not mutually exclusive tbf

Definitely will make Dre the richest dude in hip-hop.

I like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thtPhtMcdlY

did we really wait this long for such an underwhelming album? i shudder to think how bad detox must have been but then remember i need a doctor and never mind i get it now.

"i need a doctor" may be some of the worst art ever created

this album kinda sucks.

Dr. Dre Reportedly Threatens Lawsuit Over Upcoming Michel’le Biopic

http://www.okayplayer.com/news/dr-dre-reportedly-threatens-lawsuit-over-upcoming-michelle-biopic.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7FfCJb8JZQ

Busta Rhymes breaking a ram's neck at 3:44 is def classic

Beat's obv great too, but quite uncharacteristic for Dre? Anyone have an idea how much Storch did on it?

Nicety, or whatever you wanna call it
Ask my opinion and I think that all it is
Is just an excuse to givin the boots
For dollar and cents, and remain innocent
Dre with the Ruthless attack, check it
Cause all that you talkin about ain't Jack!
Step off of that, try a new approach
You get smoked because I ain't no joke
Yeah, yeah...

lol

tried listening to The Chronic again recently and wasn't really feeling it, which i don't chalk up to the album but more my own shifting tastes.

"The Next Episode" came on the radio the other day and man that is some classic shit

xp could never make it through the entire Chronic

dope singles though

Next Episode is great, 2001 has aged well

Beat's obv great too, but quite uncharacteristic for Dre? Anyone have an idea how much Storch did on it?

Storch / Dre collabs were often Storch writing, recording and producing a song, then Dre consulting & polishing. Dre did have a mini-period of arch, spindly beats like that around that time, though. His arrangements have never been maximalist, but at the time I took that refinement to be a reaction to Timbaland's breakthrough.

Yeah, there's def a Timbaland vibe.
Thanks!

loooool it's on StorchTV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EsmhkAxh4c

You're a multi platinum producer, you know everything about getting the sound just right, and yet... this is how you hold a microphone:

https://i.imgur.com/5SIa8J6.jpg