Sleep - "Jersulam"/"Dopesmoker" - C/D?

Think the ATP people have been using the "Oh, it's not the original drummer *this* time" as a get out clause.

xp and if there's one thing an ilxor with his place of work in his username taught us as w/r/t "is he going to be a shill for ATP y/n?" it's "y"

(I know Jamie posts on here in earnest, I'm just sayin)

haven't heard dopesmoker in so damn long. sounding good, follow the smoke...

it's funny cuz i initially (for years!) tended to agree with those who found it it bit dull/underwhelming, relative to holy mountain. the idea was always cool, but the execution didn't do much for me. the more time i've spent with it, though, and the more familiar the procession of riff has become, the more i love it. and it's not always about the act of listening to it, exactly. sometimes it's just a nice thing to put on, a comfortable sort of din.

the more you smoked you mean?

i dont smoke btw

I could never get into Dopesmoker

How many times is this thing going to be reissued:

For the 2012 reissue, there are some very notable changes. The original studio tapes have been remastered presenting the album as the band had originally intended. The audio is clearer, louder, and at last brings a true representation of SLEEP’s hour-plus Weedian chronicle. Exclusive to this Southern Lord edition is brand new artwork by long time SLEEP artist Arik Roper, to be unveiled in the coming weeks. Additionally, this reborn version of Dopesmoker boasts an unreleased live recording of one of the band’s best all-time performances: "Holy Mountain" from San Francisco's I-Beam in 1994.

Southern Lord is overwhelmingly ecstatic to reissue one of the most important recordings in heavy metal
history. This edition ensures that this mesmerizing, incredibly complex document remains unrivaled in the annals of stoner metal.

Dopesmoker Track Listing:
1. Dopesmoker 1:03:31
2. Holy Mountain (Live @ the I-Beam SF, CA. 1994) 11:54

yeah, really. they should reissue it every 4/20. cuz they keep forgetting that they reissued it.

hey, i've got an idea. why doesn't someone just keep it in print!

cuz they keep forgetting that they reissued it.

lol

i forgot i bought it. i was flipping through my records the other day and found a copy. true story.

The audio is clearer, louder, and at last brings a true representation of SLEEP’s hour-plus Weedian chronicle.

this is the annoying part, to me. not just that it keeps getting reissued, but that every time it happens, it has to finally be the band's "true vision" or w/e. as if they could fucking see...

they can't even remember what it's called!

Holy Mountain is the one that has been done to death reissue wise. Discogs show just one proper 2xLP issue of Dopesmoker, in 2003, on Tee Pee. One of the copies is listed for ~$80.00. I'm fine with this reissue and will probably buy it.

i dont think i ever bought that on lp so i guess i'll pick this up

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you are wrong. this is literally the fifth version of this

why would anyone want to own this on vinyl?

From Wikipedia: "Four versions of the album have been released: a rare London Records promotional disc, a bootleg with cover art by Arik Roper, the Rise Above/Music Cartel Records album and a release by Tee Pee Records.[12] The Rise Above/Music Cartel release was an unauthorized edited version, released in 1999 under the title Jerusalem.[1][3] Jerusalem runs at 52 minutes and is a single composition split into six identically-named tracks.[13] The version of the album titled Dopesmoker was released on April 22, 2003 by Tee Pee Records on compact disc and vinyl with a 63-minute running time.[2][14] Cisneros spoke most positively about the 2003 Dopesmoker release, saying "I don't think the Dopesmoker thing is the exact version that we submitted, but that's the closest one that's come out of the four. If I had to pick a favorite, that would be it."[12]"

Also – it's Algerian Goalkeeper. Of course he wants it on vinyl.

if there is any album where you do not want to get up from your chair...

i bought jerusalem on cd when it came out and it always sounded fine to me. little did i know it wasn't the REAL version. and yeah vinyl kinda defeats the purpose.

So four versions have been released: one is a promo, one is a bootleg, and one is an "unauthorized" edit. The other one is out of print and came out ~10 years ago. Not really seeing the issue here. I mean there are 36 versions of My Aim Is True.

i just don't get why its out of print at all. southern lord could keep it in print. tee pee could keep it in print. the om dudes have their own label, right? the tee pee guy is one of my facebook friends. i should ask him.

i mean its the kind of thing you could just keep selling, right? eh, what do i know.

a product of slowly increasing attention from outside die-hard metal circles? dopesmoker version came along at just the right time, coincided w lots of attention directed at both high on fire and om, but seemed intended as a fans-only collector's piece.

Brand new cover art, again!

http://www.earsplitcompound.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/sn158d-e1333380276402.jpg

Ned, Ned, Ned... beat you to it on the metal thread!

Ah well. But now it can celebrated here too. If that's the right word.

I like it on this thread too.

the art is good, but the fonts and font colors are atrocious. the writing was clearly done by a different person than the image. and that person should be fired.

otm

weedians iirc

That shade of lime green makes me want to clean my sink not smoke a bowl.

Font aside, best artwork of the three released versions of this imo. Not that I will be buying it a third time...

so thats what a procession of weedians looks like

the art is good, but the fonts and font colors are atrocious. the writing was clearly done by a different person than the image. and that person should be fired.

eh, i can hang with the retro space fonts, but this cover ain't a patch on the teepee edition from a few years back

looks like taller jawas leaving uncle owen's house

eh, i can hang with the retro space fonts

no you can't. the feel of the fonts are completely inconsistent with the image, and not in a way that's clever.

http://www.earsplitcompound.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/SleepCover300dpi-RGB-e1333384944852.jpg

this works a lot better imo, from the earsplit pr blog

this is better, but the green does not work. it should either be shade of green from the robes, or shade of the brown from the sands. and the font does not encapsulate the tone of the band at all.

the contrast works for me, what can i say? i like a little bit of pop in my graphics.

2nd version is much, much better though

i think the font works, its just the color is really wrong

you have to imagine it as a foil stamp, knowing southern lord

looks like they're already committed to that logo

http://weedian.com/files/products/23054_th_94.png

Actually, that top is amazing.

i think the font works, its just the color is really wrong

See, to me, the font evokes something good-natured, friendly, and somewhat futuristic. But it should evoke something mysterious, elaborate, hallucinogenic, and vaguely threatening. This was better communicated by the font on "Sleep's Holy Mountain," though even that album's art looked somewhat amateur and probably could have been greatly improved.

it's retro-futuristic, as is the album title. Very 70s, fits the sound of the band just fine.

album title font, I should say. Smoking dope is timeless.

xp: feh, the holy mountain art is magnificent and requires no mortal "improvement":

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_vY8I5HvOvk8/SoR_vu6XCjI/AAAAAAAAIL8/NJ8gdb7STXE/s400/Sleep%2520Holy%2520Mountain.jpg