Sisters of Mercy - Classic or Dud

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Well, yeah.

novaheat, Sunday, 1 July 2007 18:15 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, Curtis - do you need me to bombard the powers at be with emails or something? I could pretend to be different people by switching email addresses. Or I'd even call them on the phone. Let me know what I need to do.

I used to have all the old Sisters records, but haven't had them in a long time now. Don't feel a need to have them again, but it's nice to hear something from those every once in a while.

Bimble, Sunday, 1 July 2007 19:03 (sixteen years ago) link

Will they release an album before GnR?

baaderonixx, Sunday, 1 July 2007 20:46 (sixteen years ago) link

Anyone else heard "You Could Be the One?" One of my favorite b-sides of all time. Just a hilarious kiss off, and catchy to boot.

Jeff Treppel, Monday, 2 July 2007 00:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Yea, "You Could be the One" is great. It actually sounds like a GnR tune.

baaderonixx, Monday, 2 July 2007 08:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Anyone like the new (well, once new) material played live but never released? "Crash and Burn", "We are the Same Suzanne" and "War on Drugs" are favourites of mine.

mayhaps, Monday, 2 July 2007 23:33 (sixteen years ago) link

I actually kind of liked that "Screw Shareholder Value..." album that he "released" on the internet a few years ago to get out of his record contract.

There's something vaguely threatening about Andrew Eldritch reciting in monotone the dimensions of an aircraft over bland techno music with the drum tracks removed.

novaheat, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 14:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Agreed on "You Could Be the One" -- it wouldn't have fit in on Vision Thing but it's a fine little one-off.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 14:52 (sixteen years ago) link

"Flower children never bore me..."

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 14:52 (sixteen years ago) link

There's something vaguely threatening about Andrew Eldritch reciting in monotone the dimensions of an aircraft over bland techno music with the drum tracks removed.

Overall length eight hundred and seventy millimetres,
Length of barrel four hundred and fifteen millimetres,
Length of sighting line three-hundred and seventy-eight millimetres.

Curt1s Stephens, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 16:42 (sixteen years ago) link

<i>There's something vaguely threatening about Andrew Eldritch reciting in monotone the dimensions of an aircraft over bland techno music with the drum tracks removed.</i>

it's actually taken from an ak-47 manual and it's lucas fox, not eldritch reciting.

stirmonster, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 16:57 (sixteen years ago) link

bugger. keep forgetting about the html thing.

come to think of it, i don't think eldritch's vocals appear on 'gift' at all.

stirmonster, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 17:02 (sixteen years ago) link

indeed. Listen to Colours from Gift and Colours from the Floodland CD: one is Fox, the other one is Eldritch.

StanM, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 17:06 (sixteen years ago) link

"Colours" is Alan Vega no?

Curt1s Stephens, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 17:32 (sixteen years ago) link

nb I prefer the Sisterhood version of "Colours" by a mile

Curt1s Stephens, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 17:34 (sixteen years ago) link

also I'm fairly certain novaheat wasn't referring to "Finland Red, Egypt White" (which definitely has drums), I was just posting the lyrics for no particular reason

Curt1s Stephens, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 17:36 (sixteen years ago) link

Confused! Fox is a drummer. James Ray is the main vocalist on Gift. (is Colours Vega? Could be, I don't know)

StanM, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 18:01 (sixteen years ago) link

(even more confused! Fox does read the AK47 manual)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sisterhood

:-/

StanM, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 18:02 (sixteen years ago) link

Colours = Vega
Giving Ground = Ray
I think Rain From Heaven is Vega/Ray/Morrison together

Curt1s Stephens, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 18:07 (sixteen years ago) link

(and Fox doing the spoken part)

Curt1s Stephens, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 18:08 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm still not convinced that it's Vega singing on Gift's Colours.

baaderonixx, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 18:33 (sixteen years ago) link

I've never heard Ray sing like that.

Curt1s Stephens, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 18:41 (sixteen years ago) link

I picked up Gift for 13 bucks at a record store, because it was a Sisters of Mercy thing that I had never seen/heard before (they're one of the few bands where I'll grab singles or random crap from because there's bound to be something awesome on everything they put out). Man, that is a weird little artifact.

Jeff Treppel, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 18:58 (sixteen years ago) link

I put it on in the car once when I was driving with friends, and they were really confused. The AK-47 song is definitely the winner. Gift is up there with 25... Tab as far as weird contract fillers go.

Jeff Treppel, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 19:02 (sixteen years ago) link

Gift is fucking awesome and I will hear nothing else. Best Sisters album of them all (if we're not counting the comp of the Merciful release stuff).

aldo, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 22:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Big problem with Gift is the absence of Eldritch on vocals. His delivery is a large part of the reason I love the band so much.

Jeff Treppel, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 22:36 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah I was going to say, I just don't think Eldritch sings on Gift at all. I don't think that's actually a problem, though.

This thing with trying to pinpoint Vega on Gift drove me crazy before, though and I'm not about to pull that out and try to figure it out again. I give up.

Bimble, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 00:05 (sixteen years ago) link

I think Eldritch didn't want to sing on the album so as not to cause any legal problems with the name dispute or something. That's what he claims, anyway.

Jeff Treppel, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 00:10 (sixteen years ago) link

Okay, I've listened to Colours again now and I just do not think it's Vega. It's too freaking subtle for him. He's supposed to be doing an Elvis thing, you know. Tone of voice is lower/different, too. Nah, I don't buy it. Not Vega.

Rain From Heaven might be a different story, though. He could be in there somewhere.

Bimble, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 00:23 (sixteen years ago) link

Yea, "You Could be the One" is great. It actually sounds like a GnR tune.

I've been arguing for years that Andy should cover "You Could Be Mine".

Edward Bax, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 01:53 (sixteen years ago) link

There's something vaguely threatening about Andrew Eldritch reciting in monotone the dimensions of an aircraft over bland techno music with the drum tracks removed.

OMG I have never heard this, it sounds kind of freaking awesome! Is it?

Trayce, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 02:22 (sixteen years ago) link

OMG I have never heard this, it sounds kind of freaking awesome! Is it?

Um. Kind of. The "Screw Shareholder Value" album doesn't sound like a Sisters of Mercy album at all... basically it was some piece of garbage he put out to get out of his record deal. Info here. More <a href="http://www.sisterswiki.org/index.php/Go_Figure_%28album%29";>here</a>. The "Sisters Wiki" page has lyrics for most of the SSV songs, so you can see that the songs "Two in the Nose" and "Bad Vultee" are definitely about airplance, not AK-47's.

Also, his "vocal delivery", if it can be counted as anything more than a disinterested murmur, kind of adds to the overall creepiness value.

That being said, the album does have a weird ambiance about it. It doesn't sound like a Sisters record, it's not that good... but there's something about it I like.

novaheat, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 16:39 (sixteen years ago) link

Ah, shit. The proper link is this.

novaheat, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 16:41 (sixteen years ago) link

I really want to know who does sing "Colours."

http://www.myheartland.co.uk/viewtopic.php?p=171447#171447
Q).re. "Colours" -what did you think of the Floodland version compared to the Gift version? I prefer the Bunnymen's Colours.
were you narked that Von re-recorded the vocal or pleased when it wasn't as good as the original?
A)It's of no interest to me as I didn't do the vocals on the original

Curt1s Stephens, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 20:08 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Well it's 1969 okay
got a war across the USA

There's nothing here for me and you
just sitting here with nothing to do

Bimble, Monday, 20 August 2007 02:59 (sixteen years ago) link

six months pass...

Ha! So I was the last one to post on this thread. How amusing. I find myself listening to and enjoying the material on Some Girls Wander By Mistake now and this is stuff I never really expected to be into anymore since I was a teenager. Not sure why but my forays into Sisterdom since then bore no fruit. I'm rather intrigued with the "Phantom" instrumental for example - and I can't understand why I don't remember that one since I certainly had the vinyl it was on.

Also - I could never quite accept that "Gimme Shelter" was really a Rolling Stones song.

Bimble, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 02:13 (sixteen years ago) link

Run around in the radiation

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 03:29 (sixteen years ago) link

Burn Out In The Acid Rain.

Alex in NYC, Thursday, 20 March 2008 17:29 (sixteen years ago) link

BLACK

Curt1s Stephens, Thursday, 20 March 2008 21:51 (sixteen years ago) link

SOMEDAY SOMEDAY SOMEDAY DOMINION
SOME SAY PRAYERS SOME SAY PRAYERS

AND I SAY MINE

HI DERE, Friday, 21 March 2008 13:31 (sixteen years ago) link

THERE'S A WHITE HOUSE IN THE MIDDLE OF RUSSIA

jessie monster, Friday, 21 March 2008 13:44 (sixteen years ago) link

I'M LIVING IN FILMS FOR THE SAKE OF RUSSIA
A KINO RUNNER FOR THE DEE DEE ERR

Curt1s Stephens, Friday, 21 March 2008 16:05 (sixteen years ago) link

Much as I like songs like "Body Electric" and "Anaconda" and all, I do like being able to audibly hear the Sisters suddenly and totally jell with "Alice."

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 22 March 2008 04:40 (sixteen years ago) link

they never gelled as well as they did on "The Damage Done"

Curt1s Stephens, Saturday, 22 March 2008 04:45 (sixteen years ago) link

"Home of the Hit Men" or nothing. Okay maybe "Kiss the Carpet (Reprise)"

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 22 March 2008 04:48 (sixteen years ago) link

SEE THOSE BABIES GO GO GO GO GO!!!!!!

No seriously though, it's really "Watch" that kills me the most off this CD because that is some SERIOUSLY BADASS PIL-ish Metal Box era BASS. That is about as good as post-punk EVER gets.

Bimble, Saturday, 22 March 2008 06:49 (sixteen years ago) link

Just happy to see the Sisters continue to bask in ILM love.

Lostandfound, Sunday, 23 March 2008 02:39 (sixteen years ago) link

(Grammatically, that was shite.)

Lostandfound, Sunday, 23 March 2008 02:39 (sixteen years ago) link

I preferred my mis-hearing of the Floorshow punchline when I was in high school: "see those pagans go go go go go"

J0hn D., Sunday, 23 March 2008 02:42 (sixteen years ago) link

I thought that's what it was!

Curt1s Stephens, Sunday, 23 March 2008 02:47 (sixteen years ago) link


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