Salem - What kind of music genre is this ?

I've listened to a couple of the new Swans tracks and I don't hear the similarities at all. Unless it's another Swans I'm listening to.

No. I mean, they don't *sound* anything like each other but they have a very similar attitude in a weird kind of way. The similarities are very lateral to be honest. I think they both have a way of looking at very horrific, personal things and then finding something almost majestic or splendid in them. I don't think either band are gothic (play acting).

It's not a useful comparison, just an interesting one from my point of view.

hooray! a thread where whiney, deej, & j0rdan can all shit on goths!

(sorry Doran I didn't mean to call them/you goth. I'm not goth either.)

what does this have to do with goths?

if anything we're saying that some goths (three 6 mafia) make better music than other goths (salem)

3-6 is pretty awesome, but they the whole 4AD thing that Salem is also tapping into...I think they're still working out the ideas, but I really like Salem a lot.

'but they lack the whole 4AD thing'

http://i54.tinypic.com/qx54r9.jpg

http://i56.tinypic.com/mccgox.jpg

love this:

God’s fingerprints cannot be found in creation. Philosophy is dead. We live as we die, with no control and little understanding suspended in a void near the dying ember of some cataclysmic accident we have no hope of comprehending. But look on the bright side: what a majestic vantage point we’ve been given.

loved parts & labor, too. they may have gone unloved in the grand scheme, but they had their fans hereabouts.

lol @ this thread being

whiney shits on salem -> doran defends salem -> more people shit on salem -> doran defends salem and posts his nme review -> doran big ups parts + labor

this revive at least

i can't really imagine it going any other way

I didn't post my NME review. I've never posted one of my own reviews here. Actually I have in the metal end of year lists a few times but nowhere else.

And look up thread, there are about a million posters describing them as goth. And... *takes deep breath*... I don't think they're goth in the same way I don't think Joy Division or Swans are goth.

And if you don't get why I brought up Parts + Labor, I really can't help you. I mean it's such an easy, easy concept to grasp.

I also don't care if people call me a goth. I was a full-on mega goth when I was 15 in the mid 80s. I loved it for about 18 months. Until Fields Of The Nephelim turned up and I had a Damascene reconversion to being a common or garden long-hair.

I meant goth compared to, like, DJ Skrew, though I love the idea of 3-6 being goth...

Three Six Mafia are NWOBHM.

And if you don't get why I brought up Parts + Labor, I really can't help you. I mean it's such an easy, easy concept to grasp.

it's like the opposite of what miccio does to j0hn on every thread

lol @ this thrad

thread

it's like the opposite of what miccio does to j0hn on every thread

should probably just keep my trap shut, but for the record, I'm pretty sure I've only brought up a certain band twice on ILX. once when its singer was giving me shit for not liking an article by sfj he couldn't bother to read himself, once when the guy couldn't understand why everyone didn't share his "you must respect all megasuccessful songwriters" sentiment. and however impolitic or unnecessary it was to suggest how occupation could influence an argumentative stance (1st time was an annoyed, defensive gesture, the 2nd just a crack on everybody in the thread, don't plan on there being a 3rd), I really didn't say anything about the combo itself.

the chick in salem's cornrows look just like kenny fucking powers in the preview commercials for the new season of eastbound & down

http://i51.tinypic.com/2hfm2bm.gif

'cauldron-step'

Witch's Brew

A+

The release of the album has apparently been delayed to 4th October?

It's on iTunes now.

Salem's FB page says it was released today.

on emusic today, too.

so it is out today? back to the record store tonight, I guess

Listening to it for the first time now. Pretty incredible I have to say...but maybe a bit too much for me. I feel slightly nauseous TBH. I don't think I can listen to the whole thing from start to finish.

Physical copies delayed one week, I guess (according to Rough Trade in the UK; maybe it came out in the States physically this week?)

good question -- anyone have any more info?

pre-ordered from insound, they emailed about a week ago to tell me the release date of 9/28 was pushed back 'till october'

ah thanks!

GOT IT TODAY!

was completely floored to hear "King Night" at the Givenchy S/S 2011 show. A perfect fit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnkFi-9xwRo

I'm assuming Pitchfork is in deep deliberation about this one?

"Should we give it a high middle to high eight or a low nine?"

It's about as divisive album as I can think of in recent memory. There are going to be some who hail it as revolutionary and others who call it a crude joke. I'm going to guess they'll give it a 7.9 or something like that just because it's too risky to get behind.

I have 5:2 odds they mention Andrew WK in the review, or that Ryan is stumping for this comparison.

i used that as a comparison to waka flocka -- it better not get stolen for this

i still like this album a bunch. i listened to it today three times in a row at work after not hearing it for a long time and it sounded just as good to me as it did months ago. i like it for reasons of nowness AND nostalgia. it makes me think about how much i love southern hip hop AND it makes me remember how much i loved clan of xymox when i was 17. and it doesn't sound ANYTHING like ed banger/justice shit that i hate which is a big plus. (though that stuff is probably completely passe by now anyway. just using that as an example of internet sensation) and it doesn't sound like dubstep. which bores the hell out of me. especially supposed "dark" dubstep. (diplo-curated dubstep comp i got in the mail has to be one of the worst things i've heard all year. except for the lil jon song on it. which just sounds exactly like a lil jon song.)

S A L E M is what RATATAT should have evolved into.

bought the record and haven't listened to it all the way through, but I'm gonna guess P4k goes w/ an 8.4 BNM

I'm going to call a 6.4 from P4k.

S A L E M is what RATATAT should have evolved into.

― cee-oh-tee-tee, Tuesday, October 5, 2010 8:01 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Sleigh Bells is what Ratatat should have evolved into.

RATATAT should have evolved

Tbh, I think we could just leave it at that.