Salem - What kind of music genre is this ?

Dusted seems like a good idea. I'd never heard of it before.

Dusted has been doing good stuff for a long time. Love some of the old Listed features:
http://www.dustedmagazine.com/features/category/5

yeah, dusted's good.

Seem to remember the Comets on Fire one being esp. great xp

yeah dusted has been quietly interesting for years (daily content and no one ever talks about it)

dusted reviews a much wider scope of titles than p4k, which i appreciate (don't get me wrong; i like p4k a lot, but dusted exposes me to a lot of title i wouldn't notice otherwise).

actually, and i guess this is for another thread, but p4k published a piece recently on the best online music stores; the websites for those stores also introduced me to titles that i wouldn't see otherwise.

haven't been reading The Out Door as much as I should, tbh. thx for the link Daniel

More like S E L L E M right guys.

i think dusted has upped the quality of their reviews lately, too.

Perhaps stating the blindingly obvious for some of you, but take the guy's vocals off of this thing and it automatically becomes 100% more enjoyable to hear.

i vastly prefer his inept singing to his inept rapping. i guess that's only on hound and killer. the latter has this totally 90s feel to it for me. like, it could be a stabbing westward track or something, ha.

i want to download "yes, i smoke crack" but from a site that isn't shady!!! help ple

All three of them are vocalists. John Holland sings, Heather Marlatt sings, Jack Donoghue raps.

I wonder if they will collect the singles and EPs, which I think are much more diverse sounding (and feature no rapping). There's:

Yes I Smoke Crack EP
Water EP
Ohk/Sweat 7"
Frost/Legend 7"
Babydaddy 7" (split with Tanlines)

Plus a few more old demos (and lots of remixes) that never were for sale commercially

Dusted seems like a good idea. I'd never heard of it before.

― Duran (Doran), Wednesday, October 6, 2010 1:59 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Dusted has some fantastic writing, and their staff seems to have eclectic though not arbitrary or downright weird taste. One of the site's writers, Jennifer Kelly, is usually excellent. For example:
http://www.dustedmagazine.com/reviews/5680

Note that that review came out two weeks before Pitchfork's, which bring to mind another thing about that site: they review the most hyped albums a couple days before they come out, not two weeks later.

i like dusted and i hate almost everything on the internet. i think i actually emailed them once about possibly writing reviews, but they never got back to me. which, actually, just proves that they have high standards and are to be applauded.

or wait i think it was actually just ONE specific record that i wanted to review and i couldn't think of anyone else who would let me review it. still, its the only time i ever emailed an online site so that must mean that i like them.

Dusted is pretty great, I am surprised that it doesn't generate more comments on this site. I highly recommend sifting through their "Listed" features, there are some really cool and interesting musicians (and non-musicians here and there) roped in for it. I worry that burnout will happen for Dusted, somewhat akin to Stylus, as I just don't see how all those folks can keep up the level of quality without any compensation (surely noone at Dusted is getting paid? no adds etc.)

Of course, wrong thread for this. Surprised so many people are actually reviewing this Salem record TBH.

Dusted's been around for at least eight years so I don't know why it wouldn't keep going for a while

Yeah, I hope so. It is a beacon of low-key integrity for me at least.

The "weekly" Listed feature hasn't been updated since August.

as far as p4k alternatives go, Tinymixtapes > Dusted

"Listed" is still worth sifting through, though. Gems like Chris Corsano and Tom Smith abound. As far as tinymixtapes goes, to each his own. I read it as well, but would give it up before Dusted. Don't look at Dusted really as competing with tinymixtapes or P4K, somewhat different beast to me (i.e., not jokey).

These days I check Dusted more often than I do Pitchfork (or any other reviews site), there's always some great-sounding release that I had never heard of before.

Dusted is pretty great, I am surprised that it doesn't generate more comments on this site.

you're right; it should. Dusted Magazine -- C/D

Yeah, sorry about derailing this thread. I promptly remove myself ...

no no. nothing wrong with tangents on threads at all. this one is a lively discussion, actually.

Hmmm, perhaps just me feeling guilty. There are people who care about Salem, so I don't want to put 40 comments in the way of their conversation. I moved myself to that Dusted thread personally.

Last thought: agree with seandalai, Dusted has a good track record with me. They don't rep for much that leaves me completely cold, and I have found some great stuff through them.

I liked that first Bumblebeez album, would I like this?

listening to title track. what the hell is that Dusted reviewer on about? Classical music chestnut over rap beats, pretty sure Dan The Automator did this a hundred times in the late 90s.

as far as p4k alternatives go, Tinymixtapes > Dusted

Jesus no. Most of Tinymixtapes content is unreadable

Yeah, I can't stand Tinymixtapes, particularly since the last redesign.

just checked out dusted...they have a new review of the mike watt/nels cline deal...anyway this is a weird way to talk about mike watt

Floored By Four is a one-off collaboration between a quartet of musicians, each with at least one foot in conventional rock, the other in more experimental jazz and improv. Mike Watt, who started the project, splits his time between playing bass for The Stooges and Porno for Pyros on the mainstream side, while also working with people like Elliott Sharp and Nels Cline.

like oh yeah mike watt the dude from porno for pyros

as far as p4k alternatives go

there are . . . alternatives? O_O

Wait... "rape gaze"?

Pitchfork reviewer of 'KIng Night' = arrogant douche: "it's easy to be amazed that these dickheads made a record so interesting and sonically detailed." Great analysis Larry.

Someone should tell Scott he accidentally published Fitzmaurice's pitch email instead of the actual review.

"rape gaze"?

as far as p4k alternatives go, Tinymixtapes > Dusted

Jesus no. Most of Tinymixtapes content is unreadable

― Number None, Thursday, 7 October 2010 21:15 (Yesterday) Permalink

Yeah, I can't stand Tinymixtapes, particularly since the last redesign.

― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 7 October 2010 21:21 (Yesterday)

thirded! tinymixtapes is the very last scrape of the barrel before you hit (the worst of) the blogosphere.

this is the one thing i don't get at all

"interesting and sonically detailed"

like i keep trying to appreciate this as pure SOUND, but it just seems nowhere near as immersive and intricate as like Zaytoven, Polow Da Don, DJ Toomp, Three 6 Mafia, etc...

and Dusted has always been solid and englightening.

I actually feel like there are genuine opinions on there, that they haven't been been processed and edited for maximum appeal and impact to some perceived target audience (that I don't belong to), which is how I feel reading the other sites.

The "dickheads" jab was unnecessary and unwarranted. They may be unprofessional amateurs, but I don't see how that makes them assholes.

The review was pretty spot on, though, and entirely predictable for Pitchfork. And that's fine, because Pitchfork has a very clear goal, purpose, and audience. This isn't the kind of music most Pitchfork readers will like, and therefore, to give it a positive score would be to risk jeopardizing their "taste" level. So give it a mostly glowing review, say it's a divisive album (it is), slap on a 7.something, and forget the thing ever came out.

actually I like cokemachineglow the most out of all the pitchfauxrks....

EQ'd-to-shit click tracks

what does this mean

it means the click tracks have been poorly EQ'd so that they stand out from the music in an irritating/intrusive way.

jesus christ you guys, come on. this isn't written in hieroglyphics.

that came out snottier than i intended. BUT STILL.

ok like i know it's been said twice already but....RAPE GAZE?

i like how that's dropped in there like it's just totally a normal thing ppl say all the time like oh sure rape gaze, one of my favorite genres outside of ragtime jazz and western swing

i thought it might have been "rap-gaze" and accidentally wound up with an extra "e" but i am worried "rape-gaze" is a real thing.