Salem - What kind of music genre is this ?

Hmmm, perhaps just me feeling guilty. There are people who care about Salem, so I don't want to put 40 comments in the way of their conversation. I moved myself to that Dusted thread personally.

Last thought: agree with seandalai, Dusted has a good track record with me. They don't rep for much that leaves me completely cold, and I have found some great stuff through them.

I liked that first Bumblebeez album, would I like this?

listening to title track. what the hell is that Dusted reviewer on about? Classical music chestnut over rap beats, pretty sure Dan The Automator did this a hundred times in the late 90s.

as far as p4k alternatives go, Tinymixtapes > Dusted

Jesus no. Most of Tinymixtapes content is unreadable

Yeah, I can't stand Tinymixtapes, particularly since the last redesign.

just checked out dusted...they have a new review of the mike watt/nels cline deal...anyway this is a weird way to talk about mike watt

Floored By Four is a one-off collaboration between a quartet of musicians, each with at least one foot in conventional rock, the other in more experimental jazz and improv. Mike Watt, who started the project, splits his time between playing bass for The Stooges and Porno for Pyros on the mainstream side, while also working with people like Elliott Sharp and Nels Cline.

like oh yeah mike watt the dude from porno for pyros

as far as p4k alternatives go

there are . . . alternatives? O_O

Wait... "rape gaze"?

Pitchfork reviewer of 'KIng Night' = arrogant douche: "it's easy to be amazed that these dickheads made a record so interesting and sonically detailed." Great analysis Larry.

Someone should tell Scott he accidentally published Fitzmaurice's pitch email instead of the actual review.

"rape gaze"?

as far as p4k alternatives go, Tinymixtapes > Dusted

Jesus no. Most of Tinymixtapes content is unreadable

― Number None, Thursday, 7 October 2010 21:15 (Yesterday) Permalink

Yeah, I can't stand Tinymixtapes, particularly since the last redesign.

― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 7 October 2010 21:21 (Yesterday)

thirded! tinymixtapes is the very last scrape of the barrel before you hit (the worst of) the blogosphere.

this is the one thing i don't get at all

"interesting and sonically detailed"

like i keep trying to appreciate this as pure SOUND, but it just seems nowhere near as immersive and intricate as like Zaytoven, Polow Da Don, DJ Toomp, Three 6 Mafia, etc...

and Dusted has always been solid and englightening.

I actually feel like there are genuine opinions on there, that they haven't been been processed and edited for maximum appeal and impact to some perceived target audience (that I don't belong to), which is how I feel reading the other sites.

The "dickheads" jab was unnecessary and unwarranted. They may be unprofessional amateurs, but I don't see how that makes them assholes.

The review was pretty spot on, though, and entirely predictable for Pitchfork. And that's fine, because Pitchfork has a very clear goal, purpose, and audience. This isn't the kind of music most Pitchfork readers will like, and therefore, to give it a positive score would be to risk jeopardizing their "taste" level. So give it a mostly glowing review, say it's a divisive album (it is), slap on a 7.something, and forget the thing ever came out.

actually I like cokemachineglow the most out of all the pitchfauxrks....

EQ'd-to-shit click tracks

what does this mean

it means the click tracks have been poorly EQ'd so that they stand out from the music in an irritating/intrusive way.

jesus christ you guys, come on. this isn't written in hieroglyphics.

that came out snottier than i intended. BUT STILL.

ok like i know it's been said twice already but....RAPE GAZE?

i like how that's dropped in there like it's just totally a normal thing ppl say all the time like oh sure rape gaze, one of my favorite genres outside of ragtime jazz and western swing

i thought it might have been "rap-gaze" and accidentally wound up with an extra "e" but i am worried "rape-gaze" is a real thing.

the sad thing is that "rape-gaze" is just as evocative when discussing these doobers as "rap-gaze" would be.

but a "click track" is usually something musicians only hear in their headphones, not actually part of the music. i think he means...hi-hats?

but i am worried "rape-gaze" is a real thing.

um

http://www.myspace.com/wearecreep

i like how that's dropped in there like it's just totally a normal thing ppl say all the time like oh sure rape gaze, one of my favorite genres outside of ragtime jazz and western swing

― a prairie based companion (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, October 8, 2010 3:55 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

can't believe you're being such a herb about this

but a "click track" is usually something musicians only hear in their headphones, not actually part of the music. i think he means...hi-hats?

haha this is possibly true. who knows truly what lurks inside the head of larry fitzmaurice. i am sorry i snapped at u jordan. u_u

why can't you believe it history mayne?

because we're supposed to be beyond taking offense/expressing disbelief at the use of "rape" in a neologism.

rape gaze bro, come on

im amazed it took this long to come back round

yeah word, the more i think about this i'm just bored with the whole thing, wake me when paedowave hits

(also history mayne i am a herb u know this)

People have been using "rape gaze" for a while...

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=%22rape+gaze%22

uh it's basically one triangle band that uses it as self description. the p4k guy just couldn't resist giving it currency

Rape gaze music - Listen free at Last.fm
Listen to Rape Gaze radio. ... “rape gaze” music on Last.fm. Built by 1 person (Used 1 times). We don't have a description for this tag yet, care to help? ...
www.last.fm/tag/rape%20gaze - Cached

Built by 1 person (Used 1 times)

fuck this shit

Reverse trending is one of the biggest sins in pop culture discourse. I mean the heritage in the UK trades is hilarious, but in the net-age it's just embarrassing as shit.

I was coming here to post that I thought Pitchfork's review was actually pretty good. At least, for once, the reviewer writes about what the damn record sounds like.

what is "reverse trending"?

I was coming here to post that I thought Pitchfork's review was actually pretty good. At least, for once, the reviewer writes about what the damn record sounds like.

― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Friday, October 8, 2010 10:43 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

the complaint about writers not doing this enough is bullshit largely.

as if only they would say "apocolyptic soundscapes" more often music writing would be better?? dubstep state of mind

ethan made me spit dr pepper all over my keyboard once when he called afu ra "jeru's jeru." salem is like dubstep's dubstep's dubstep

i've listened to this a couple times and i think it's interesting. that sounds like weak praise, but i mean it's holding my interest. i don't know what they think they're doing. the racial queasiness reminds me a lot of pussy galore, of all things. i am put off by the thought that maybe we're supposed to take the rapping seriously. on the record it's just a kind of sound; like they wanted some screw vocals on a song and instead of sampling something they just had one guy do it. all lot of the beats are off-kilter and unfunky and it's hard to tell if this is intentionally jarring or if they just kind of suck at programming. that's part of the "interest", how much of what they're doing is what the mean to be doing.

like it wouldn't even occur to me to criticize them because there's druggy actual-rap out there that's better -- the answer is "of course" and "so what"

aside from the fact that this a positive review of salem, this is one of the first fitzmo reviews to please meh, aside from the "despite all these genre influences they still sound like themselves!" which is always a boring & trite conclusion to draw

also thought it was weird that he singled out the rapping as aesthetically ugly while still generally praising music that is "EQ'd-to-shit" and produces "sheer noise"

the racial queasiness reminds me a lot of pussy galore, of all things.

Everything I've read about these guys sounds kinda like a post-hiphop Royal Trux.

that's giving them a bit too much credit, really.

haha I guess, though aside from a few songs I've never gotten the Royal Trux hype either

xpost Cmon. I love this record but that does a disservice to the greatest rock and roll band America has produced in the last 25 years.

this, otoh:

on the record it's just a kind of sound; like they wanted some screw vocals on a song and instead of sampling something they just had one guy do it

is otm.