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"Sussudio"?!! That was just Uncle Phil rippin' him off.

"When U Were Mine" is on CONTROVERSY (I think?). Or PRINCE. It's on one of the early records...

― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Thursday, 22 May 2003 17:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

oops ! hey that's what you call a coincidence.

right erm...

can't think of another.

was 'jerk out' by the time by him ?

― piscesboy, Thursday, 22 May 2003 17:31 (twenty-one years ago) link

"when you were mine" is on dirty mind isn't it? it was also covered by BOB SEGER!

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 22 May 2003 17:33 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yep, it's on Dirty Mind. Do covers not count? (Actually, he recorded "Nothing Compares 2 U" too.)

Also -- Kate Bush, "Why Should I Love You?" (And why is it not called "Why Should I Love U?")

― JesseFox (JesseFox), Thursday, 22 May 2003 17:33 (twenty-one years ago) link

the family recorded "nothing compares 2 u", prince didn't get around to recording it til post sinead

― James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 22 May 2003 17:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yeah, and that was live...

― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 22 May 2003 17:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

...which doesn't really count.

― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 22 May 2003 17:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

If Phil Collins goes on the list then so does TLC - "Waterfalls".

I was going to list a George Clinton collaboration but I just listened to "The Big Pump" from Hey Man ... Smell My Finger, and god is it shit!

― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Thursday, 22 May 2003 17:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'm all for ripoffs counting, but wasn't "Sussudio" more of a Jam/Lewis rip than a Prince one?

Sly Fox, "Let's Go All the Way"
Ready For the World, "Oh Sheila!"

― M Matos (M Matos), Thursday, 22 May 2003 17:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

ok so help me out - what exactly should count here? I was initially thinking strictly prince-sanctioned protege stuff & collaborations but maybe we should open it up to covers and rip-offs to keep it interesting.

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 22 May 2003 17:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

(btw, I was about to start a thread like this, so yay!)

― M Matos (M Matos), Thursday, 22 May 2003 17:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

fuck if we're gonna bust open the fake prince songs cherry

Ready For The World - "Oh Sheila"
Shalamar - "Dancing in the Sheets"
Nine Inch Nails - "Closer"
Outkast - "Toilet Tisha"
Elvis Costello - "Blue Chair"

― James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 22 May 2003 17:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

aargh xpost!

― James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 22 May 2003 17:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

D'angelo - "How Does It Feel"

― James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 22 May 2003 17:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

Morris Day, "Oak Tree" (well...)

― M Matos (M Matos), Thursday, 22 May 2003 17:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

lenny kravitz' first record seemed pretty "around the world in a day" influenced to me, maybe it's just a similar beatles + sly ideal behind em...I know it's uncool, but I loved "Let Love Rule" when it came out. Does the Cody Chestnutt record sound like this? I will buy it if it does.

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 22 May 2003 17:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

sort of but it's hidden behind lotsa 4-track murk; also his lyrics are better than Kravitz's (whose aren't?)

― M Matos (M Matos), Thursday, 22 May 2003 17:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

Beck, "Debra"

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Thursday, 22 May 2003 17:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

Best trying-to-be-Prince album? How about Gold Experience??

― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 22 May 2003 18:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

"it was also covered by BOB SEGER!"

Mitch Ryder also did it on his comeback LP, the one John Mellencamp produced.

― Charles McCain (Charles McCain), Thursday, 22 May 2003 18:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

fake prince:

Rori - "Wild Girls"

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 22 May 2003 19:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

shit, charles is right ... i think i got mitch ryder and bob seger mixed up.

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 22 May 2003 19:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

Karl Wallinger did some not-very-good fake Prince stuff, in between his fake Lennon and fake Kinks things.

― JesseFox (JesseFox), Thursday, 22 May 2003 20:06 (twenty-one years ago) link

we get 40 posts into the thread w/o mentioning Chaka Khan's cover of "I Feel For You"??

― M Specktor (M Specktor), Thursday, 22 May 2003 20:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

No Doubt, "Waiting Room". He takes over the track with just his backing vocals.

― Sean (Sean), Thursday, 22 May 2003 23:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

sorry,were manic monday and waterfalls by prince?

― robin (robin), Thursday, 22 May 2003 23:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

Fake Prince in the house world... half of Rooty and Bob Sinclair's "Got to Be Free."

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 22 May 2003 23:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

there's no janet on this thread?!

i had no idea about 'manic monday'. god i really love prince.

― minna (minna), Friday, 23 May 2003 00:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

no Janet because Jam/Lewis is parallel Prince, not fake. also, The Gold Experience is definitely Prince pastiche but also great. and half of Rooty? try all of it.

― M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 23 May 2003 00:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'd really have to stretch out backwards to think of "Where's Your Head At" as a Prince pasiche. So, we'll go with 9/10ths of Rooty.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 23 May 2003 00:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

Nobody answered Robin so I will: yes, "Manic Monday" was written by Prince for the Bangles (under the pseudonym "Christopher"). "Waterfalls" had no Prince involvement, but sounds like it :)

Another facsimile: Pig (80's WaxTrax dude) - "Never For Fun"

― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Friday, 23 May 2003 00:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

Majesticons - "Prom Night Party" (fake Vanity 6 at least)

― James Blount (James Blount), Friday, 23 May 2003 07:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

Pretty much most of "Her Highness" by Medicine. Especiall... damn, what is the name of that track? _Aarhus_

Why is it I can only stand Prince songs when they're done by other people?

― kate, Friday, 23 May 2003 07:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

Romanthony-?$LUV

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Friday, 23 May 2003 07:31 (twenty-one years ago) link

well, "WYHA" doesn't resemble much Prince I can think of either, but its spirit is right there. anyway, you know what I'm talking about. ;-)

― M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 23 May 2003 07:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

oh, and duh--Roxette, "The Look," which he could very well have sued them for! ditto MUCH early Chicago house, though since he stole the rap from JM Silk's "Music Is the Key" for "Cindy C" everything there is probably kosher

― M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 23 May 2003 07:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

also, re the original idea behind this thread...this excellent new NYC garage rock band (yes, really, they're good) called the Fever do a fab version of "Glamorous Life" (their deletion of "The," not mine, btw). it's on their EP, Pink on Pink, out next month

― M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 23 May 2003 08:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

one year passes...

As far as ripoffs and homages go, this year alone, Basement Jaxx released 'Plug It In' as a single, that song's guest vocalist, JC Chasez, can count '100 Ways' and 'Shake It' (featuring 'The' Basement Jaxx) from his album, Schizophrenic, as well as part of his overall aesthetic, the Freestylers released 'Push Up', which is like a lesser xerox of Prince funk and 'Plug It In' and Superthriller released their debut album, Superthriller 1, which includes the singles 'Ahjustwannadance', 'I'm Gonna Leave At Three So Call Me' and 'Smoking Kills'.

Discussion and listing of others, please! I love the dude's influence.

― B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 13:46 (nineteen years ago) link

there should b another thread 'unprince prince' which is all the songs prince does which don't sound anything like his good influential stuff. u can include everything after GRAFFITI BRIDGE onwards on that list.

― piscesboy, Tuesday, 2 November 2004 13:51 (nineteen years ago) link

Chelonis R Jones a bit? A bit more tenuously, Prince basically rules house at the moment - the influence isn't necessarily as obvious as it is with Basement Jaxx but a lot of the shinier upbeat electro-house stuff has that thick sparkly plastic feel to it. This really came through for me on the Mei Lwun mix.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 13:54 (nineteen years ago) link

There could be a thread named 'undead prince' where we post photos of the little guy's rotting reanimated corpse wearing a red leather jumpsuit with enormous shoulderpads.

― B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 13:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Tim, I always thought 'Bucci Bag' was a way underrated nu-Camille moment.

― B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 13:59 (nineteen years ago) link

The FM Edit or the original?

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 14:16 (nineteen years ago) link

The original (don't remember the FM edit). The Cagedbaby remix was Princey electro in a way. Thinking it over, there's something Princey about the Chemicals' 'Get Yourself High' (the weird bass sound and minimalism), and even Rex too ('Heartbeats', particularly) - that'll be the thick, sparkly, plastic feel. there's also Alexis Strum/Kylie - 'Still Standing'.

Also, I'm off to look for the Mei Lwun thread - I realised I have one of his tracks on the Deeper Concentration comp.

― B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 14:28 (nineteen years ago) link

I get "Bucci Bag" confused because I'm not sure if my CD single is mislabelled - the "FM Edit" is the one everyone plays, it's got that punishing robo-bass riff right through it that sounds like it's sampled from The Normal's "Warm Leatherette" or something. The same riff runs through the longer, spacier , slightly less brutal and occasionally amost trancey "Doria Dub".

The "original" is more of an epic electro-house number with a live post-punk bassline, occasionally rockish breakdowns in the drums and skronky guitar. It could actually be a house remix of "House of Jealous Lovers".

Potentially the titles for the original version and the dub are mixed up on my single, although what's labelled as the "Doria Dub" certainly *sounds* like a dub mix.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 14:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Mislabel - "The original" sounds more like the Playgroup remix. The other Prince-aspect about 'Bucci Bag' is the snare clap at the end of every 4th bar.

(Also, house mix of 'HOJL' sorted by Cosmos last year)

― B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 14:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh cool, I had the Playgroup mix and didn't even know it! Yeah that handclap is very Prince (see also Teedra Moses's "Complex Simplicity" Barms!)

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 14:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Will do. That mix is pretty much the best thing Playgroup has ever done, outside of a couple of album tracks (and 'Number One' would love to be a proper part of this thread, I suspect, there's some link to Controversy in there, I think). The P-group and C-baby mixes are on the same 12", and was therefore probably my favourite 2003 mix package.

MJ's Bad LP skirts the edge here. Prince himself dubbed it "pathetic".

― B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 14:59 (nineteen years ago) link

dangelo - untitled (how does it feel).

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 11:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Bette Bright (Mrs. Suggs) released a heavenly version of When You Were Mine in 1981. The first Prince cover? W/Ian Broudie on guitar.

― M, Wednesday, 3 November 2004 13:15 (nineteen years ago) link

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― a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Monday, 2 February 2015 20:03 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

we need a list of prince knockoffs that prince had nothing to do with, like ready for the world's "oh sheila"

― wizzz! (amateurist), Friday, 29 April 2016 19:51 (eight years ago) link

there are a few such things mentioned on this thread, but most of it is stuff prince actually wrote and/or produced

― wizzz! (amateurist), Friday, 29 April 2016 19:52 (eight years ago) link

would that include music by former bandmembers

― Οὖτις, Friday, 29 April 2016 19:57 (eight years ago) link

paula abdul "promise of a new day"

― fact checking cuz, Friday, 29 April 2016 20:00 (eight years ago) link

world party "love street"

― Οὖτις, Friday, 29 April 2016 20:04 (eight years ago) link

we need a list of prince knockoffs that prince had nothing to do with, like ready for the world's "oh sheila"

Always wonder if "Oh Sheila" is intentionally named after Sheila E. in order to add to the confusion.

― Radio Free European Son (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 29 April 2016 20:15 (eight years ago) link

Lol, Wikipedia:

The song is commonly misattributed to Prince, due to similarity to his vocal and musical style, as well as the belief that the song's lyrics allude to frequent Prince collaborator Sheila E.[2][3] Ready for the World's Melvin Riley denied any connection with the two artists, stating that the subject of the song was a fictional character. However, the song's backbeat was inspired by the Prince song "Lady Cab Driver."

― Radio Free European Son (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 29 April 2016 20:18 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2liD7pahHN4&feature=youtu.be

― kurt schwitterz, Friday, 29 April 2016 20:24 (eight years ago) link

However, the song's backbeat was inspired by the Prince song "Lady Cab Driver."

if by "backbeat" they mean "everything in the song"

― wizzz! (amateurist), Friday, 29 April 2016 20:44 (eight years ago) link

Teena Marie to thread

― Radio Free European Son (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 29 April 2016 20:45 (eight years ago) link

Nine Inch Nails - "Closer"

this seems kind of challopsy... or does it?

― wizzz! (amateurist), Friday, 29 April 2016 20:47 (eight years ago) link

The entirety 'o' the Gary Numan album Metal Rhythm.

― 2rrican (Turrican), Friday, 29 April 2016 20:51 (eight years ago) link

I think I mentioned them upthread, but Klymaxx's two mid-80s albums (Meeting in the Ladies' Room and Klymaxx) certainly remind me of Prince/Minneapolis style synth funk.

― Tuomas, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 09:27 (eight years ago) link

feel like the title track off Herbie's "Future Shock" fits here

― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 20:22 (eight years ago) link

The entirety 'o' the Gary Numan album /Metal Rhythm/.

The entirety 'o' the Gary Wilson album You Think You Really Know Me.

― The WLS National Batdance (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 23:18 (eight years ago) link

6.4

― Mark G, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 23:46 (eight years ago) link

B-52's "Dry County" has a bit of a Prince vibe

― Stoner Gabbneb & the Cocoon of Cluelessness (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 23:50 (eight years ago) link

Clare Fischer strings and all. Sandra St. Victor co-wrote "Soul Sanctuary" with Prince ("Emancipation")https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUDr7ClxLIo

― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 5 May 2016 00:25 (eight years ago) link

And this one! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8DLerhocZk

― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 5 May 2016 00:28 (eight years ago) link

I was just wondering today if there was a thread like this and now I see that I've already stumped for A'me Lorain & The Family Affair upthread but I'm going to do it again because I love that album so much.

― Your Ass Is Grass And I Will Mow It With My Face (Old Lunch), Thursday, 5 May 2016 01:50 (eight years ago) link

Always thought of this one as a Prince homage:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmZexg8sxyk

― goodoldneon, Sunday, 8 May 2016 22:55 (eight years ago) link

OK, I'll add mine here, since I don't think I saw them:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKXEbSpmpDw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjLC9HBoEYU

― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 8 May 2016 23:39 (eight years ago) link

Does all the sub-Jam & Lewis boogie count?

Tara - Fresh Flesh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX3S9LU-NMM

― Abandon hype all ye who enter here (Sanpaku), Monday, 9 May 2016 01:08 (eight years ago) link

Wait is that one of the Carmen Electra records?

― Old Familiar Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 9 May 2016 01:25 (eight years ago) link

Not sure.

Ryuchi Sakamoto borrows Prince protege Jill Jones, and possibly the purple LinnDrum:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XygQHlXeipk

― Abandon hype all ye who enter here (Sanpaku), Monday, 9 May 2016 02:23 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Did you guys know about this? http://www.mixonline.com/news/profiles/classic-tracks-fine-young-cannibals-she-drives-me-crazy/375247

― Why You Wanna Treeship Borad? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 29 May 2016 00:35 (eight years ago) link

Was listening to Talking Heads' "Making Flippy Floppy," from 1983, the other day and thinking that the chorus (and the synth hook in particular) is kind of Prince-like. But maybe that's just because it's Bernie Worrell, and he influenced Prince's keyboard style?

― goodoldneon, Sunday, 29 May 2016 04:46 (eight years ago) link

jill jones s/t is awesome

― clouds, Sunday, 29 May 2016 06:21 (eight years ago) link

^^^

― scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Monday, 30 May 2016 01:46 (eight years ago) link

vocal doesn't sound at all like Prince, but everything else about this song gives me a real 80s-synth-Prince vibe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-rfX1W38q0

― Οὖτις, Thursday, 9 June 2016 17:39 (seven years ago) link

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