HI DERE otm, why would there be controversy if portishead's first album was coming out now?
― just sayin, Saturday, 16 October 2010 15:14 (thirteen years ago) link
I thought the Portishead comparison was kind of stupid, actually. Like, how is a white dude affecting a black accent while mumbling over spacy beats even remotely comparable to that first Portishead album, which was a wispy jazz singer crooning over hip-hop beats?
I am not at all cool with white people playing gatekeeper with music that originated with black people; your skin color doesn't matter if you are good at what you're doing and that entire aside basically threw the end result out of the window for some gross "but it's WHITE people doing BLACK music!" concern-trolling that doesn't even make sense when listening to that first Portishead album.
thread was worth it if it got us to this post. (this is actually underrated aero btw post some weirdness w/login)
― guess I'll just sing dream on again (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 16 October 2010 15:50 (thirteen years ago) link
ha by "kind of" I really meant "incredibly"
I need to stop hedging
― GLEERILLAZ! (HI DERE), Saturday, 16 October 2010 21:55 (thirteen years ago) link
VibingVibing 2 some rapegaze [link]Really listening to this exciting new genrethinking abt what it makes me feel
Do I feel 'dark'?Am I ready to leave behind the vibes of chillwave?Should I 'rage against the mainstream indie machine'and only vibe out 2 rape gaze mp3s?
Thinking abt my sexual desiresWondering if there is something 'deviant' inside of methat makes me vibe hard to rapegaze musiclike I can watch online pornography on muteand listen to the dark sounds of salem
― max, Wednesday, 20 October 2010 04:57 (thirteen years ago) link
I feel like I will never go thru a hardcore drug addiction phaseWill never live in a shithole crack den meth lab apartmentDo drugs that involve needleshave sex in a graveyardcommunicate with spiritsHave my bros crucify me just 4 shitsSell my body for drugsContract some sort of infection/STD/terminal illness
Just dark ass shit
Feel like I'm always gonna be kinda mnstrmand I won't ever be that darkSo maybe listening to rapegaze on my iPhone/Macbook is the only way 4 meto sorta embed myself in that lifestyle
Do u <3 rapegaze?Is there a high demand in the blogosphere 4 rapegaze mp3s?Do u want more rapegaze coverage in the blogosphere?Is Salem the world's worst buzzband?
carles can really kill it sometimes
― truly blunted rhyme fiend (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 05:01 (thirteen years ago) link
lol i just grabbed that last bit
― goole, Wednesday, 20 October 2010 05:01 (thirteen years ago) link
― max, Wednesday, 20 October 2010 05:04 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.hipsterrunoff.com/2010/10/vibing-2-some-rape-gaze.html
'vibing to some rape gaze' is just
― ENRRQ (history mayne), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 08:54 (thirteen years ago) link
"King Night" sounds o holy night redone by some kid who spends his free evenings making overclocked remixes
― borad.crutial.org (crüt), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 11:12 (thirteen years ago) link
Next phase, chillwave, rape gaze, anywaysIt's still rock and roll to me
― Harrison Buttwhistle (NickB), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 11:18 (thirteen years ago) link
A+
― guess I'll just sing dream on again (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 11:22 (thirteen years ago) link
imo btw chillwave & rapegaze are noble but failed attempts by this generation to come up with a term as stupid as "post-rock" but better luck next time you guys, we are dumber by far and "post-rock" is the proof
"shitgaze" however I gotta hand it to you, that one had us running scared for a minute
― guess I'll just sing dream on again (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 11:26 (thirteen years ago) link
shit robot was what first scared me. like, fuck, this generation doesn't even respect the robots? made me sad.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 20 October 2010 12:53 (thirteen years ago) link
aw cmon aerosmith, 'rapegaze' is certainly a scourge on this earth, and a sign from the heavens that someday this will all be washed away...
― scaruffi kaleidoscope (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 13:29 (thirteen years ago) link
(plz refrain from all Rape-ture joeks plz)
any genre that gets its name by leapfrogging off a name as already terrible as "shoegaze" is not gonna bring the quality
― borad.crutial.org (crüt), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 13:31 (thirteen years ago) link
my bloody valentine were pretty rapey anyway
i get the impression "rape gaze" is meant to be a twist on "male gaze" rather than a ref to shoegaze
― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 13:33 (thirteen years ago) link
i don't know why people are acting like anyone's said it's a genre name when it's been used by ONE group though (and as a descriptor, not a genre)
― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 13:34 (thirteen years ago) link
really want to add more to this discussion but kinda busy trying to figure out what my newly invented genre "rental house" is going to sound like
― guess I'll just sing dream on again (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 13:36 (thirteen years ago) link
lots of Moog
― scaruffi kaleidoscope (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 13:36 (thirteen years ago) link
'post-ghost'
― scaruffi kaleidoscope (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 13:37 (thirteen years ago) link
where can you rent a moog these days
― borad.crutial.org (crüt), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 13:39 (thirteen years ago) link
i record u.k. council house under the name dj corbusier. its a mix of oi! and techstep.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 20 October 2010 14:08 (thirteen years ago) link
Scott, that is the best dj name ever!
― Picker of Shelves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 14:13 (thirteen years ago) link
"when it comes to uk council house, pass the corbusier" -nme
"open goal, really"-Q
― guess I'll just sing dream on again (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 14:28 (thirteen years ago) link
Innocuous threads that make you irrationally happy (a list thread)
― Picker of Shelves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 14:40 (thirteen years ago) link
vibing 2 some zanelowecore
― c▲zen (cozen), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 14:53 (thirteen years ago) link
I saw Salem play last night. It wasn't quite Fader Fort levels of badness, but it wasn't far off. I haven't heard the album, but the beats at this show just sounded like lame tinny presets ripped straight out of a cheap drum machine. The rapper guy did his stuff early and then went off to sit and talk to a group of their friends, who were all gathered at the side of the stage. It all felt very half-assed. Rapper guy seemed to be laughing most of the time when he was doing his thing, and I started to wonder if this is even a serious band. I mean, if you've got a band member on stage visibly talking to other people through half the set then I'm guessing you don't take your music very seriously.
― Position Position, Wednesday, 20 October 2010 16:00 (thirteen years ago) link
ha -- so much for blaming the fader fort sound guy, eh?
― swvl, Wednesday, 20 October 2010 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link
if I went to a Salem show and it wasn't either totally horrible or really, really great I'd be disappointed
― markers, Wednesday, 20 October 2010 16:26 (thirteen years ago) link
I was there last night too.
Opened with some new track that was the dude (not the rapper) doing some slowed down BM riffing while the girl played synths over; basically Le Tigre meets Xasthur.
After that they had the rapper dude come out for two tracks. They played one new track that was pretty much straight party rap and then Sick (when he was singing the chorus and going SIXSIXSIX throwing his hands up it was pretty much the nadir of witchhouse)
After that it was King Night, then I think Traxx and they ended with Killer. Momentum really died when the rapper dude sat down and had some chick on his lap while the other two did their thing. Sound wasn't great either. Was glad to have seen it but really wanted to hear more rap, it was by far the most fun thing about the performance.
― Ryan, Wednesday, 20 October 2010 21:37 (thirteen years ago) link
"""""""rap""""""
― call me mr. jetson, i can make your orbit city (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 21:39 (thirteen years ago) link
Was glad to have seen it but really wanted to hear more rap, it was by far the most fun thing about the performance.
o_O
Completely, 100% the opposite of my feelings about the album proper. They just need to ditch the "rapper" completely. Would totally kill for Le Tigre meets Xasthur though!
― "I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 21:44 (thirteen years ago) link
http://static.boomkat.com/images/254067/333.jpg
http://www.myspace.com/pookawig
― call me mr. jetson, i can make your orbit city (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 21:50 (thirteen years ago) link
― guess I'll just sing dream on again (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 11:26 (11 hours ago)
I dunno man, "BLOG HOUSE" has everything beat for me.
― Pashmina, Wednesday, 20 October 2010 22:54 (thirteen years ago) link
lol yeah point taken there
― guess I'll just sing dream on again (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 22:55 (thirteen years ago) link
i get the impression "rape gaze" is meant to be a twist on "male gaze" rather than a ref to shoegaze― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Wednesday, October 20, 2010 9:33 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Wednesday, October 20, 2010 9:33 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
i get the impression "bedrock" is meant to be an display of Drake's sexual prowess rather than a reference to Fred Flintstone's hometown of Bedrock
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 20 October 2010 23:18 (thirteen years ago) link
i don't know who you're even trying to zing there, or on what basis
― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 23:55 (thirteen years ago) link
on the basis of a joke about shoegaze/shitgaze/etcgaze
― naked human hands and a foam rubber head (contenderizer), Thursday, 21 October 2010 00:04 (thirteen years ago) link
just heard "king night" on eurosport as incidental music for a skiing trailer. it's found its natural home! no zing it genuinely sounded pretty good in that context.
― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Thursday, 21 October 2010 11:25 (thirteen years ago) link
Should probably change their name to Slalem
― Harrison Buttwhistle (NickB), Thursday, 21 October 2010 11:31 (thirteen years ago) link
double entendre, yo.
― Tim F, Thursday, 21 October 2010 11:32 (thirteen years ago) link
thanks for that patronising explanation! "whiney's just being a dick again" would have sufficed.
i don't know whether this interview with the one band that's actually used the phrase has been linked, but it prob should be - http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/archives/2010/10/the_horrifyingl.php
in the context of just one all-female band using it, i think the phrase isn't something to be outraged over, and w/r/t the kind of music they make actually pretty interesting, though i think their "it was just a joke" line in that i/v is a bit of a cop-out (though i don't get the impression they were given much time to go into detail); it's pretty much like calling something "murder rap" or "horrorcore" or "death metal".
― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Thursday, 21 October 2010 11:58 (thirteen years ago) link
^^ Agree w/r/t all female band BUT surely all of this stuff is far too style mag to get away with flirting with offensiveness in a manner actually equiv to death metal et al. The fact they're already distancing themselves is evidence of this. It just seems so smug-indie which is the really offensive part surely.
― Tim F, Thursday, 21 October 2010 12:04 (thirteen years ago) link
thanks for that patronising explanation!
also have i done something to offend you recently or what.
― Tim F, Thursday, 21 October 2010 12:09 (thirteen years ago) link
Tim smug-indie=offensive begs "what's wrong with being sexy?"
― cee-oh-tee-tee, Thursday, 21 October 2010 12:49 (thirteen years ago) link
rape gaze is sexy?
― Tim F, Thursday, 21 October 2010 13:21 (thirteen years ago) link
ha that was going to be my question
― O'Donnell and the Brain (HI DERE), Thursday, 21 October 2010 13:21 (thirteen years ago) link