it was unreleased material released as an 'official mixtape' -- i thought ferrari music was mostly odds & ends that had leaked out on the other tapes & internet compiled together by a dj
― deej, Thursday, 4 November 2010 02:50 (thirteen years ago) link
all of those songs are at least as good as your beloved "frowney face"
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 4 November 2010 02:51 (thirteen years ago) link
i think it can be seen as a falloff year in that his output has been rel limited & inconsistent (burrprint 2hd & the appeal being the inconsistenc) but mr zone 6 & jewelry selection are totally continuing along the path of greatness of burrprint 3d & the movie 1
also as you yourself have said, he's best measured by the strength of his best individual tracks, which are just as strong and fresh & creative this year
― samosa gibreel, Thursday, 4 November 2010 02:51 (thirteen years ago) link
'everybody looking' is not boring!!! its super weird & awesome & pop-y & queasy and one of his best tracks this year
― deej, Thursday, 4 November 2010 02:51 (thirteen years ago) link
man i typed that up and had to click "submit post" like nine times cause you guys go so fast
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, November 3, 2010 9:51 PM (30 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
not even close -- this is like saying the movie 2 >>> the movie
oh wait thats something else youve argued
― deej, Thursday, 4 November 2010 02:52 (thirteen years ago) link
i have to remember that you defended the keyshia cole & bobby valentino songs on 'state vs radric davis'
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 4 November 2010 02:52 (thirteen years ago) link
lol @ 'your beloved frowney face' -- his 1st verse on that hits harder than any verse off mr zone 6 bar none period -- post lyrics of a better one
― deej, Thursday, 4 November 2010 02:53 (thirteen years ago) link
the first verse of "cowards & soldiers"
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 4 November 2010 02:54 (thirteen years ago) link
don't make me stop burnin kush but start burnin your body parts
put tear drops underneath my eye cuz i wish some days i could cry / but to lose my self respect my n***a i would rather die
― deej, Thursday, 4 November 2010 02:54 (thirteen years ago) link
most of the time i was bumpin top authoritytell it to my nine cuz you pussy niggas borin me
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 4 November 2010 02:55 (thirteen years ago) link
this is like slam poetry now or something lol
i think stuff like "rooftop" is a better meeting of writing & weirdoness than grumble mumble stuff like "poltergeist"
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 4 November 2010 02:57 (thirteen years ago) link
or like, "normal" > "gross" as far as one-word repetition gucci songs go
man no way does this verse stand in the same universe as 'frowney face' -- a verse w/ college puns?? vs actually emotional autobiographical raps w/ statement of purpose -- not even fair
― deej, Thursday, 4 November 2010 02:57 (thirteen years ago) link
"dats my life" is as hard as anything on 'burrprint'
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 4 November 2010 02:58 (thirteen years ago) link
gross has a way better beat
― deej, Thursday, 4 November 2010 02:58 (thirteen years ago) link
than normal
college puns are lol and creative!
this is some interesting hair-splitting for someone who can't really distinguish the thousand shades of quality and nuance between most Gucci stuff and just gravitates to the obvious standouts. all i know is he hasn't really made any songs on the level of "Lemonade" or "Wasted" this year (although since "Lemonade" charted as a single this year it's definitely gonna be in my top 10)
― Danble Perritration (some dude), Thursday, 4 November 2010 02:59 (thirteen years ago) link
'dats my life' is just acrobatic rapping & its cool as that but its not even close to his best song! this is what i meant when i talk about songwriting -- his choruses on zone 6, the beats, they're all so dry & flatline compared to 'gross' or 'trap talk' or certainly the best stuff on 'burrrprint.' theres no beat on 'mr zone 6' coming w/in miles of 'my shadow' and no verse is as emotionally compelling as 'frowney face'
― deej, Thursday, 4 November 2010 03:00 (thirteen years ago) link
― Danble Perritration (some dude), Wednesday, November 3, 2010 9:59 PM (26 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
corny. you knew that song last year
hes def made songs better than 'wasted' this year although not nearly as many that would appeal to as wide an audience
― deej, Thursday, 4 November 2010 03:01 (thirteen years ago) link
like you can call "dats my life" 'too writerly' or w/e too tom b snarl-rasp but like that beat + those verses are as good as shit like "excuse me" & "trap goin crazy" (which i love)
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 4 November 2010 03:02 (thirteen years ago) link
college puns are lol & creative but youre comparing it w/ a real talk verse that bodies the most heart-on-sleeve z-ro verses -- all the trauma beneath the surface of the straightfaced lyrics, the its like a calloused lid on some extremely powerful experiences. its biggie-level autobiography
― deej, Thursday, 4 November 2010 03:03 (thirteen years ago) link
tom b snarl-rasp
btw did you read the vado review
some dude have you herad 'its alive'
― samosa gibreel, Thursday, 4 November 2010 03:03 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah i'm not talking about strictly about song quality but about memorable songs that feel like hits (beyond like Trey Songz sings on this so radio plays it etc.). although i guess i'm one of the only people here that's always really liked "Makin Love To The Money". and i always do year-end singles lists based on when a song was a hit, doesn't matter if i had an album it was on the previous year, don't know what's corny about that.
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― Danble Perritration (some dude), Thursday, 4 November 2010 03:03 (thirteen years ago) link
its alive is my favorite verse of his this year -- incredible stuff. i also think that drumma boy track that just got a video is pretty epically great
― deej, Thursday, 4 November 2010 03:04 (thirteen years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, November 3, 2010 10:55 PM (8 minutes ago)
lol yeah my jaw dropped i was like is this really happening
― wakafledia (k3vin k.), Thursday, 4 November 2010 03:04 (thirteen years ago) link
i like makin love to the money now btw
i mean irl -- the song is cool too
y'know i'm not sure if i have heard "It's Alive" -- nobody made The Appeal sound too erm appealing but i guess that is one song people recommend from it
― Danble Perritration (some dude), Thursday, 4 November 2010 03:04 (thirteen years ago) link
there are some totally dope beats on 'jewelery selection' like "first song back" & "electricity" but the "gross" beat is incredibly generic
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 4 November 2010 03:05 (thirteen years ago) link
and i always do year-end singles lists based on when a song was a hit, doesn't matter if i had an album it was on the previous year, don't know what's corny about that.
― Danble Perritration (some dude), Wednesday, November 3, 2010 10:03 PM (54 seconds ago) Bookmark
i dunno it seems goofy -- like you dont trust your own ears & need them verified by popular consensus or something -- lemonade was in my top ten last year so
― deej, Thursday, 4 November 2010 03:05 (thirteen years ago) link
some dude otm
― The Reverend, Thursday, 4 November 2010 03:06 (thirteen years ago) link
but the "gross" beat is incredibly generic
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, November 3, 2010 10:05 PM (38 seconds ago) Bookmark
man couldnt disagree more -- the strings & effects are coca coca level dark
― deej, Thursday, 4 November 2010 03:06 (thirteen years ago) link
stuff on the appeal that's as good as anything gucci has ever done -- "what's it gonna be", "it's alive"
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 4 November 2010 03:06 (thirteen years ago) link
― deej, Wednesday, November 3, 2010 11:05 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark
it's 'popism' not insecurity -- i don't put album cuts on singles lists as a protest of indie fuxx who fill their P&J ballots with non-hits, i stick to singles, and a lot of songs don't become hits until the year after they appear on an album.
― Danble Perritration (some dude), Thursday, 4 November 2010 03:08 (thirteen years ago) link
the second level of stuff is like: "trap talk", "party animal" (pretty dope "wasted" rip off if you ask me), "odog" (at least until wyclef takes over the last three minutes), "dollar sign"
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 4 November 2010 03:09 (thirteen years ago) link
my favourite thing about 'gross' is gucci flirting w that lady and making her laugh (i mean, really, really gross) in the intro
― samosa gibreel, Thursday, 4 November 2010 03:10 (thirteen years ago) link
uhhh, lemonade was a single before the end of the year
― deej, Thursday, 4 November 2010 03:10 (thirteen years ago) link
like with "dollar sign" & "weirdo" & "brand new" you keep expecting them to be awesome cuz they're straight mixtape style stuff but they're not really that great unfortunately
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 4 November 2010 03:10 (thirteen years ago) link
odog is dope except for the horrible choruses
party animal suffers by being way inferior to the drumma boy 'party animal'
ok "It's Alive" is pretty cool -- don't know why this couldn't be the single instead of "Gucci Time" if they were rolling with Swizz
― Danble Perritration (some dude), Thursday, 4 November 2010 03:11 (thirteen years ago) link
listen to "what's it gonna be", they just put out a video
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 4 November 2010 03:11 (thirteen years ago) link
― deej, Wednesday, November 3, 2010 11:10 PM (55 seconds ago) Bookmark
its chart impact was all 2010, i didn't hear it on the radio in non-Gucciland until January
― Danble Perritration (some dude), Thursday, 4 November 2010 03:12 (thirteen years ago) link
i still dont understand how having heard it on the radio makes it ok to vote for it now but whatever. its the same song then that it was when you first heard it.
just makes it seem like you were sleeping imo
― deej, Thursday, 4 November 2010 03:14 (thirteen years ago) link
well clearly it's just a personal thing where shipley only votes for "singles", pretty self-explanatory
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 4 November 2010 03:15 (thirteen years ago) link