Hate That I Love You is not a bit like California King Bed. The latter is a full-blown slick pop song with a Swiftian tinge of modern country. Like, if you played it for me w/o telling me it was Rihanna, I'd have no idea who I was hearing.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 00:21 (thirteen years ago) link
So is Stargate all over this, or just the three singles?
― abcfsk, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 00:22 (thirteen years ago) link
this album is really good -- i'm surprised
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 9 November 2010 02:38 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm particularly impressed with the one-two of "complicated" and "skin," would've liked if the whole album was like that! which songs are u feeling the most j0rdan
― s&m: sex and masturbating (The Brainwasher), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 02:41 (thirteen years ago) link
everything pretty much except "california king bed" i think
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 9 November 2010 02:44 (thirteen years ago) link
oh and not "love the way you lie pt 2" duh
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 9 November 2010 02:46 (thirteen years ago) link
someone wake me up when they're on part 200 and we're all dead
"california king bed" is a little too much like 4 non blondes for my taste i think
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 9 November 2010 02:47 (thirteen years ago) link
rihannanow.com/getloud
― Taylor McSwift (Tape Store), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 02:51 (thirteen years ago) link
nvm sorry that's just samples
― Taylor McSwift (Tape Store), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 02:53 (thirteen years ago) link
I guess my main complaint abt this album is that coming off of rated r it sounds a bit too slight and understated - it's not bad, but it's a little dull, I feel like the best songs on here ("man down," "skin," "complicated,") all sound like a continuation of what she was doing on Rated R in a way (though obv not as "dark")... the rest is just kind of there/doesn't really move me in any particular way... like, if rihanna is going to do basic pop records she should at least try to top Good Girl Gone Bad, this is kind of middling
but this is just off of like 1.5 listens so obv haven't really let it sink in yet... but nothing touching "cold case love," etc.
and yeah "california king bed" is lame power ballad :| sounds like the sequel to Fergie's "big girls don't cry" or some shit
― s&m: sex and masturbating (The Brainwasher), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 02:53 (thirteen years ago) link
diggin nicki's verse on this
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 9 November 2010 02:56 (thirteen years ago) link
It's raining men... FAT BITCHES is prob the best grocery bag line ever
― s&m: sex and masturbating (The Brainwasher), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 02:58 (thirteen years ago) link
man i've been outta the loop i haven't been checking for this at all, heard "only girl" on the radio a bunch but don't care for it much. am i gonna like this given my indifference to rated r?
on the real tho i don't think we need another rihanna album just yet - rated r came out what 13 months ago? kinda surprised this is coming out so soon given that rated r wasn't exactly a smash or anything? i mean i'd venture to guess "rude boy" blowing up after a minute there sort of prolonged its commercial shelf-life
― wakafledia (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 02:58 (thirteen years ago) link
i actually was kind of disappointed w/ that after how promising "feeding me my catfishes is"
i think the record scratch effect and pitch down to normal voice for REALLY REALLY REALLY wait really? is the best use of nicki's wackiness i've heard
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 9 November 2010 02:59 (thirteen years ago) link
i think "rude boy" came out far enough after 'rated r' and was so divorced from everything else that was put out for that album that it didn't really help that album's sales really which is prob why they rushed this one out to continue on that momentum
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 9 November 2010 03:00 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah that's probably right
― wakafledia (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 03:01 (thirteen years ago) link
yep, as expected, great album <3
― Taylor McSwift (Tape Store), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 03:18 (thirteen years ago) link
where is the dirty, retail rip?
― dayo, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 03:43 (thirteen years ago) link
There isn't one yet, as I said upthread.
― altered boners (rennavate), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 06:02 (thirteen years ago) link
all you're missing out w/ the clean version is rihanna saying "nigga" twice and minaj saying "bitches"
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 9 November 2010 06:04 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, I guess. And it shouldn't be a hassle to download the dirty versions of the track/s to replace...
― altered boners (rennavate), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 06:19 (thirteen years ago) link
ok so both versions i've downloaded have weird mid-song fades and even the one that purports to be 320kbps sounds like ass, so i guess i'll wait for something that's actually adequate to emerge
― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 10:35 (thirteen years ago) link
think you'll be waiting for the follow-up if you want one that doesn't sound like ass.
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 11:04 (thirteen years ago) link
This is pretty terrible.
― altered boners (rennavate), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 23:27 (thirteen years ago) link
This album is completely unnecessary. I mean, there was just a remix album released in May! Why is she allowing her label to rush her through her career with such unremarkable material? I think her red wig ate her common sense.
― dancing wit my palm in my pants (Spinspin Sugah), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 23:53 (thirteen years ago) link
You dudes is harsh. I think there's plenty to like here. The only WTF moment is California King Bed.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 23:55 (thirteen years ago) link
i'm sure she's absolutely devastated at being forced to record and sell number one singles and platinum albums
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 9 November 2010 23:56 (thirteen years ago) link
it's pretty obvious why they rushed another album out by her, as i outlined upthread
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 9 November 2010 23:57 (thirteen years ago) link
Are you kidding me? The first single is hugely successful in the US and Europe, the second single is currently sitting at the top of US digital rankings, this album is more or less guaranteed to shoot her back into the commercial top tier. Common sense is exactly what this album is about, correcting the (hugely unfortunate) lack of mega sales for the Rated R campaign.
xp and as I wrote that Jordan made the same point.
― abcfsk, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 23:58 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah ok it's not "terrible" but it's not very good at all.
― altered boners (rennavate), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 23:58 (thirteen years ago) link
Also I don't buy the I'm-a-nympho stuff on here, asides from MAYBE "Skin." When I hear "Rude Boy," I still feel like Rihanna's going to punish me for being a bad, bad boy and it's great, but here it's not convincing at all.
― altered boners (rennavate), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 23:59 (thirteen years ago) link
listening back to "good girl gone bad" & it's actually better than i remembered
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 10 November 2010 00:02 (thirteen years ago) link
h8 phrases like "commercial top tier"
it may well get her back to that (though having assumed that, i'm...less convinced now i've heard it), but it's hardly a reason to care about the album in itself
― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 00:02 (thirteen years ago) link
I didn't say it was a reason to care about the album. It hasn't done anything for me after two listens, but it has definitely pushed her to the top of the charts. I say it's much better to get an album of half-decent'whatevers' quickly after a great album rather than her label forever mulling a strategy to strike back and THEN getting an album of average shit. At least now there's hope she does something crazy the next time around.
― abcfsk, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 00:06 (thirteen years ago) link
not crazy, interesting*
― abcfsk, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 00:07 (thirteen years ago) link
xpostdon't really wanna get into the sales=quality strawman again, but I hardly think the American public as of late is to be lauded for it's ability to discern between what's good or bad. The most likable thing about this album is when she puts her accent at the forefront(Man Down, What's My Name) two songs which I would actually listen to again. As someone else said, it's not terrible, but it leaves me feeling like, "Ok, I'm ready for the next album in 5 months." And yeah, her faux-nympho schtick is about as believable as her satan-fingers and 'rock star' stance.
― dancing wit my palm in my pants (Spinspin Sugah), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 00:20 (thirteen years ago) link
Well I wasn't remotely close to suggesting sales=quality. On the other hand I was definitely saying sales = good business.
― abcfsk, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 00:24 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah. I guess we both came to the party for different reasons :/
― dancing wit my palm in my pants (Spinspin Sugah), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 00:28 (thirteen years ago) link
― dancing wit my palm in my pants (Spinspin Sugah), Tuesday, November 9, 2010 6:28 PM (11 seconds ago) Bookmark
well, no -- it was just a response to your post about the record company forcing her into recording another album
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 10 November 2010 00:29 (thirteen years ago) link
oh, hi there!
― dancing wit my palm in my pants (Spinspin Sugah), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 00:32 (thirteen years ago) link
Haven't heard it yet but am I right in thinking this is the Circus to Rated R's Blackout?
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 10:15 (thirteen years ago) link
In commercial/record company logic terms, anyway.
Pretty much - tho circus seemed very tight/regimented/controlled - to its detriment - whereas loud is (surprisingly) v ropey and slapped together
― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 10:19 (thirteen years ago) link
Circus was totally incoherent and cobbled together!
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 10:30 (thirteen years ago) link
It seemed like quite a conscious attempt to recreate blackout to me, except w/o any of the panache or excitement? Whereas loud is "throw a bit of this and a bit of that at it, whatever"
― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 10:43 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah but it also had things like Mmm Papi and whatever those awful ballads were called. It felt like sub-Blackout with a few other things thrown in that broke up all the coherence.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 11:53 (thirteen years ago) link
"What's My Name" rockets from 60-1 to nab the Billboard Hot 100 top spot. "Only Girl" is still at #4.
― abcfsk, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 16:59 (thirteen years ago) link
LOUD should be renamed BLAH.
― altered boners (rennavate), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 17:01 (thirteen years ago) link
Only Girl is a Beyonce song that Beyonce passed on. I don't like Rihanna on it, even tho I kinda like the song.
― altered boners (rennavate), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 17:02 (thirteen years ago) link
perhaps i've developed a degree of paranoia after years of being comprehensively gainsaid by rih's fiendishly clever handlers but i think of 'stay' as kind of a muted trojan horse just to keep her name in the air until the (spring/summer)time is right and punters' patience is more temperate
contrary to what i had idly assumed it appears there is in fact a substantial difference between mykkis blanco and ekko. i'm actually looking at pictures of ekko now trying to see into his soul but all that comes to mind is "john mayer needs a haircut"
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 19:34 (eleven years ago) link
Found myself enjoying this on the radio recently which is more than I could say for Diamonds.
Still never heard Unapologetic in full.
― monotony, Thursday, 14 February 2013 04:29 (eleven years ago) link
Despite a couple barely forgivable moments it's possibly her best album? Which isn't saying a ton but it's good.
― The Reverend, Thursday, 14 February 2013 06:09 (eleven years ago) link
nah, 'good girl gone bad' is wayyyyy better
that's an out-an-out great pop album
― d'eejban (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 14 February 2013 06:10 (eleven years ago) link
I'd say they're on par. I haven't listened to GGGB in forever tho and should probably revisit.
― The Reverend, Thursday, 14 February 2013 06:14 (eleven years ago) link
seems like a weird choice for a single tho.
Seems pretty obviously an attempt to capitalize on some Gotye hangover. I don't think this will have a ton of top 40 success, but it's definitely one of those THIS IS DEEP AND MEANS SOMETHING TO ME songs for teenagers.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 14 February 2013 06:16 (eleven years ago) link
the whole album is pretty downtempo compared to other Rihanna records (maybe even Rated R?), so it kinda figures that this would be the time that they'd venture a piano ballad single for the first time since "Unfaithful" (which this is at least way way better than)
― BIG REUSS aka the fun.driver (some dude), Thursday, 14 February 2013 06:21 (eleven years ago) link
I was thinking Adele, rather than Gotye.
― The Reverend, Thursday, 14 February 2013 06:23 (eleven years ago) link
I'll put Music of the Sun up with GGGB and Unapologetic. It's kind of a perfect Caribbean-pop trifle in a way.
― The Reverend, Thursday, 14 February 2013 06:24 (eleven years ago) link
A little of both maybe? The duet reminds me of Gotye, the accompaniment is all Adele.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 14 February 2013 06:25 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i get nothing Gotye out that other than 'for the first time ever, white boys can help Rihanna dominate pop radio'
― BIG REUSS aka the fun.driver (some dude), Thursday, 14 February 2013 06:34 (eleven years ago) link
out of that
yea as far as downtempo goes Stay is leaps and bounds ahead of Diamonds and Unfaithful jeez louise
― surm, Thursday, 14 February 2013 06:50 (eleven years ago) link
both of those songs are like jackhammers in your brain
― surm, Thursday, 14 February 2013 06:51 (eleven years ago) link
'for the first time ever, white boys can help Rihanna dominate pop radio'
please
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSjFam_dQL85wCHZVi3jd-TCcUxhtItAFozAI5Of2W9AdByjbiEtA
― The Reverend, Thursday, 14 February 2013 07:20 (eleven years ago) link
eh i meant as performers obv
― BIG REUSS aka the fun.driver (some dude), Thursday, 14 February 2013 11:58 (eleven years ago) link
lol
well idk i kinda like this song actually, it sounded 'right' when i first heard it on the radio on a cold night
― teledyldonix, Thursday, 14 February 2013 18:04 (eleven years ago) link
totally
― surm, Thursday, 14 February 2013 18:14 (eleven years ago) link
One thing I've noticed about Rihanna as a singer is that she has started emoting more convincingly as she's gotten older; I cringe to think of what she would have done to this song had it come out at the same time as "Unfaithful".
― Ima R.A.E.D. (DJP), Thursday, 14 February 2013 18:19 (eleven years ago) link
it would have been very sad :(
and yes i've heard people comment similarly about her recent performances
― surm, Thursday, 14 February 2013 18:19 (eleven years ago) link
she's pretty fantastic on "Loveeeeeee Song" imo
― weed, tumblr whites and wein (some dude), Thursday, 14 February 2013 18:25 (eleven years ago) link
ur pretty fantastic
― surm, Thursday, 14 February 2013 18:50 (eleven years ago) link
ur pretty
― The Reverend, Thursday, 14 February 2013 18:59 (eleven years ago) link
thx surm happy valentine's day
― weed, tumblr whites and wein (some dude), Thursday, 14 February 2013 19:01 (eleven years ago) link
blushin
― surm, Thursday, 14 February 2013 19:07 (eleven years ago) link
favourite riri album for me is a tossup between GGGB and Rated R, Loud and Talk that talk both had shining moments but felt tossed off and lazy. Everything I read about this album made it sound even lazier + i guess i still find the whole chris brown thing pretty icky, but then I listened to "stay" about four times yesterday so now i don't even know.
― monotony, Thursday, 14 February 2013 22:37 (eleven years ago) link
vin diesel is feeling "stay"
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=4256755106383&set=vb.89562268312&type=2&theater
― weed, tumblr whites and wein (some dude), Friday, 15 February 2013 04:26 (eleven years ago) link
haha wtf
― skeet-skeet-gate (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Friday, 15 February 2013 04:27 (eleven years ago) link
totally come round to "pour it up" now, her delivery is fucking amazing
i want a video asap
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Monday, 18 March 2013 09:12 (eleven years ago) link
she sounds so...sober
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Monday, 18 March 2013 09:13 (eleven years ago) link
I don't know where this should go, because there a million Rihanna threads, but this is so good I have no problem linking to bu**feed.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/a-rihanna-meet-greet-vs-an-avril-lavigne-meet-greet
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 5 May 2014 18:25 (ten years ago) link
yeah that was pretty hysterical
― some dude, Monday, 5 May 2014 18:51 (ten years ago) link
those rihanna pictures are so beautiful!like richard renaldi portraits, http://www.newrepublic.com/article/117208/touching-strangers-richard-renaldi-surprisingly-moving
― schlump, Monday, 5 May 2014 19:19 (ten years ago) link
awesome
― steendriver dysphoria hoos (The Reverend), Monday, 5 May 2014 20:02 (ten years ago) link
is Rihanna way taller than I realized?
― steendriver dysphoria hoos (The Reverend), Monday, 5 May 2014 20:25 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, I had the same though. I'd always assumed she was kind of short(ish) for some reason, but perhaps not.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 5 May 2014 21:04 (ten years ago) link
she's 5'8" and always in heels, so
― chillin' on an "awesome pretzel" hoagie (DJP), Monday, 5 May 2014 21:09 (ten years ago) link
orchestral "pour it up" <3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLcjTzDsJnc
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 16 December 2014 09:53 (nine years ago) link