Prince "Sexy MF" C/D

this entire album is entirely unlistenable by all objective aesthetic criteria i can imagine, but theres something great about it. "3 chains o'gold?" how could i love that? i mean, i do.

the symbol album is a complete mess. the rapping alone all over it makes it a bit embarassing

-- The Ghost of Black Elegance (djperr...), September 9th, 2005.

Dan is deliciously OTM. It's still his best album of the '90s.

the gold exp is a totally important album in my life.

this is a good argument until one actually thinks about it, at which point it falls apart like well-cooked flesh. james brown upended the american notion of popular song and made rhythm more important than melody! who did anything more radical than that?

sly and george built on the JB paradigm but they took it somewhere else entirely, where JB himself did NOT want to go. JB wasnt into sounding spacey, drugged out, or freaky on record, much less looking that way, he was of the previous generation.

If you could edit out Tony M that would be his best post 80s album, a lot of bangers on there.. Morning Papers, God Created Woman, 7, Love to the 9s (minus woeful rap interlude)

Actually, I think I'll add to "Pussy Control" and "Endorphinmachine" to my list of 90's Prince songs I prefer to "Sexy MF."

The best of all of Prince's JB rips, of course, is "Housequake."

"7" definitely follows the "this should by all rights be an unholy mess of garbled shite but somehow IT IS FUCKING AWESOME" rule that runs rampant throughout the symbol album. The Gold Experience is a much better effort all around and I really don't trust people who dislike "P Control" as that's usually a sign that you eat babies.

and also, when will there be deluxe remastered lavishly packaged double (or hell triple!!) cd reissues of the "worthwhile" or "listenable" prince?

prince didnt really start homaging JB til the purple rain tour in baby im a star (all that 'hit me 345 times' stuff)

this is 345 kinds of poppycock

okok - "red red wine" pwns "blue light!" prince is my favorite musician of all time, but theres no way i can deny that fact. also, "p control" is classicclassicclassic, end of argument.

ill admit that my love for "3 chains o' gold" is roughly analogous to my love of "trapped in the closet", ie a leftfield-whatthefuck-retarded-genius-but-not-really-ironic-kind-of-love, but thats real love!

i love the first part of 3 chains, that melody is really lovely

Altho when i finally saw the footage, I didn't think Prince looked all that bad.. it's been hyped up as his most embarrassing moment..

SCRUB THE DISHES!

Eye seem 2 remember there was a censored version 'o' this which replaced the expletives in the song with a sample 'o' Prince doing a high-pitched "aaaaawwwaa!" or something. Eye remember it sounding quite comical.

This tune bangs in the club.

this is played in clubs?

I've heard it several times. The drum line (which feels like it's constantly running slightly ahead of itself) always sounds amazing in that context.

yeah i think someone was dissing the npg drummer in one of the other threads and I immediately thought "but the drums in sexy mf are tight as hell"

most striking element no question

this is maybe my favourite Prince song.

Eye seem 2 remember there was a censored version 'o' this which replaced the expletives in the song with a sample 'o' Prince doing a high-pitched "aaaaawwwaa!" or something. Eye remember it sounding quite comical.

I have this on single with the "clean" radio edit, and Prince's "you sexy motherwowwaa!" does indeed sound pretty funny. IIRC this was also the version MTV played? I remember laughing to it with my friends back in 1992...

It's kind of an 'ew!' thing. It's the first version I heard because that's what they played on UK radio when it came out.

FWIW I played this out on Friday night and it did indeed bang.

Also, you can add my voice to praises for Michael Bland, NPG's drummer. Those two albums have the funkiest drums of any Prince albums, if we're talking about traditional drumming skills. I still prefer the 80s drum machines, though. (And Sheila E. is obviously good too, but in a more idiosyncratic way than Bland.)

And I love the fact that the also-supremely-funky organ on this tune is plaid by a guy who, at the time, looked like this:

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Tony Barbarella in the house.

Who's that

That's the Trent Reznor "before" yearbook picture.

I never set eyes on Prince but the closest I came was seeing Michael Bland working the fuck out of a drum kit in a music store in Minneapolis before he started working with Prince.

bland's work on "love 2 the 9's" is exquisite

Food for thought: both Bland and Bowie's longstanding drummer Sterling Campbell served time in Soul Asylum.

The times I saw Michael Bland play for Soul Asylum, they were so great - throw Tommy up there on bass and it was like a whole new band.

Michael Bland apparently a big XTC fan, too — he lobbied to play on "Apple Venus."

Really? I didn't know that!

Uh I was asking tuomas actually

Bland joining Prince is possibly the exact moment his output started to suffer imo. surprised at the love here.

Not blands fault in any way

yeah, probably not to any significant degree. but as noted on some other Prince thread, 1990 feels like the first time Prince is backed up by, like, a normal, modern R&B band and some of his production idiosyncrasies/techniques start to suffer, and Bland's heavy-footedness is part of that sort of conventional sound creeping in.

Bland is an excellent drummer and the best NPG member. Shakey's right about Prince's gradual decline, but Bland anchored the best of it.

best NPG member.

is faint praise

he'd have been a good drummer in any band.

I find the whole NPG era (or what I think of as the NPG era...those first few records in the 90s) to be kind of fascinating in that while they def. lose some (even a lot) of the edge that made Prince unique, they so clearly are what he imagined would appeal to a black audience at the time – featuring Bland and Seacer's heavily syncopated grooves, Gaines' Aretha-esque wailing vocals, Barbarella's super funky organ parts, and, of course, Tony M rapping (and the dancers). It was like he was trying to put together his own Muscle Shoals All Stars in some 90s context. As a whole, it doesn't really work but in the instances when it does—mostly singles like "Get Off," "D&P," "7," this song—the results tended to be as weird and outrageous as anything in the guy's catalogue.

On another note, I played this song for my 8 year old the other day. I'm probably a horrible parent for doing it but I really wanted her to understand why her mom and I loved this Prince guy so much (it also provided a nice opportunity to let her know that some people use words to get a rise out of folks). Interestingly, her semi-embarrassed giggle was pretty much identical to the reaction everyone I knew had when it came out during college. I'm probably going to Hell.