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notice how there's absolutely NO attribution in this story?

"according to a spokesperson for the band."

Sam J. (samjeff), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 16:58 (twenty years ago) link

the band that does not exist according to anyone but this story.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 17:00 (twenty years ago) link

Guess they hired a publicist?

Sam J. (samjeff), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 17:02 (twenty years ago) link

but don't you think it's odd that there's no DIRECT attribution? I just did a news-google and everyone's saying "According to reports."
There's yet to be any official statement. I'm highly skeptical.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 17:12 (twenty years ago) link

not only has pitchfork done this before, but so has ilm. i don't know how to link to it so do with this what you will:

The Potential Return of the Pixies

(i prefer frank black solo to the pixies, but keep it under yr hat)

will g. (will g.), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 17:32 (twenty years ago) link

oh wow it linked all by itself! that's really cool.

will g. (will g.), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 17:33 (twenty years ago) link

The Internet has eerie powers.

Bruce Urquhart (Bruce Urquhart), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 18:00 (twenty years ago) link

I saw them on the Doolittle tour, and the Bossanova tour. Ventura, California. I'll remember the 'Into The White' encore from the first show pretty much forever.

I don't expect the same show. But if I can get tickets, I'm certainly going again.

jl (Jon L), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 18:04 (twenty years ago) link

I just can't believe that all the bad blood is behind them enough to actually TOUR together. Kim and Frank on stage together again? Hide all sharp objects...

Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 18:31 (twenty years ago) link

Herion is quite expensive....

brg30 (brg30), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 18:59 (twenty years ago) link

so when is that asteroid supposed to hit planet earth??
i can only imagine the hordes of boston hipster assclowns at the show.
if they play anything from Trompe i will shoot them with guns

kephm, Wednesday, 10 September 2003 19:25 (twenty years ago) link

I like Alec Eiffel.

Bruce Urquhart (Bruce Urquhart), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 19:34 (twenty years ago) link

People there will be annoying. That I can reasonably presume.

However, I feel, the Pixies as a band are too smart, cynical, etc., etc., to fuck this up Eagles-reunion style, which is definitely not to say that the Eagles ever did not suck.


I think all of the things we're criticizing them for now, they must have already thought of.

David Allen, Wednesday, 10 September 2003 19:42 (twenty years ago) link

I just can't imagine Frank having any interest in doing this. He's changed so much, and IMO for the better.

Maybe like the Velvets, they'll just do a few Euro-dates and us here in NorAm can pretend it never happened.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 19:51 (twenty years ago) link

JL, were we at the same show? I saw Pixies and Pere Ubu kick off their Trompe Le Monde show in '91 at the Ventura Theatre, too. And they did an encore of "Into the White" and "Alison" as well.

donut bitch (donut), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 19:55 (twenty years ago) link

I mean, fucking hell, first three songs: "Rock Music", "Planet of Sound", "Tame"... best first three songs of any live show I've ever seen, period.

donut bitch (donut), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 19:56 (twenty years ago) link

yay!

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 20:49 (twenty years ago) link

eh

kephm, Wednesday, 10 September 2003 20:55 (twenty years ago) link

I was out of town that weekend for the one with Pere Ubu. unbelievably. did they play 'Motorway to Roswell'?

jl (Jon L), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 21:19 (twenty years ago) link

Yes, they did that.. with the keyboardist from Pere Ubu doing the, well, keyboard part.

donut bitch (donut), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 21:27 (twenty years ago) link

that must have been nice. okay.

jl (Jon L), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 21:39 (twenty years ago) link

i seen them in glasgow supporting the throwing muses (!)

...then about a year later i saw them in a large dull and acoustically horrible shed type thing - about two songs into their set (and after watching support from cud(!!) and teenage fanclub) part of the stage and barrier in front of it collapsed and the gig was halted and 4000 Glaswegian pixies fans filed out with their heads in their hands.

jed (jed_e_3), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 21:57 (twenty years ago) link

Hold up...one of the cats from Beggars Banquet says it's all hooey.

Andrew Frye (paul cox), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 22:16 (twenty years ago) link

I should've known better than to take this at face value.

Ah well, knowing me I probably wouldnt have even gone to see them anyhow!

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 11 September 2003 00:26 (twenty years ago) link

I don't think that 'It's not true' from someone on a matador message board should be taken as proof that it's not true either!

N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 11 September 2003 00:51 (twenty years ago) link

See that little logo under his name? That means he works for Beggars Banquet.

Andrew Frye (paul cox), Thursday, 11 September 2003 00:59 (twenty years ago) link

...and, as vague as the denial is, it's still more official than anything quoted in the mtv.com report.

Andrew Frye (paul cox), Thursday, 11 September 2003 01:02 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, I know. Pixies weren't even on Beggar's Banquet though. I expect he's right - I'm just saying it's hardly conclusive.

N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 11 September 2003 01:03 (twenty years ago) link

Pixies weren't even on Beggar's Banquet though.

There is a connection -- 4AD was originally a spin-off from and now is part of the label umbrella of Beggars.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 11 September 2003 01:04 (twenty years ago) link

Beggars = parent company of 4AD (at least nowadays)

x-post

Andrew Frye (paul cox), Thursday, 11 September 2003 01:06 (twenty years ago) link

Seeing as how nobody denied the previous report about their recent jam sessions and the fact that Black has been playing a lot of Pixies stuff live, I don't see why this is so implausable.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 11 September 2003 01:12 (twenty years ago) link

I don't care. The Pixies are pretty unexciting to me.

blutroniq (blutroniq), Thursday, 11 September 2003 01:14 (twenty years ago) link

If it's true, I actually think this could be worthwhile.

One thing I like about Frank Black is that he doesn't have his head up his ass. In the Pixies days, their success may have made him a little arrogant, but for most of his solo/Catholics days he's been very modest about it all. He doesn't blow his own horn or take himself too seriously.

So, for now, I have trust in him that this will be good.

Hildy, Thursday, 11 September 2003 01:47 (twenty years ago) link

That's a good point. Black is much more modest now than a decade ago. Deal seems to actually want to work recently. Lovering and Santiago were never (as far as I know) a major part of the break-up equation anyway.

Are they or aren't they? I wish we'd get a definitive answer from somebody.

Andrew Frye (paul cox), Thursday, 11 September 2003 01:50 (twenty years ago) link

Kim probably realizes how nuts the crowd is gonna go during "Gigantic" too.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 11 September 2003 01:58 (twenty years ago) link

hell, I'd lose it.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 11 September 2003 01:58 (twenty years ago) link

Based on the Breeders performance of same earlier this year Mr. Barrus and I saw, she knows it VERY well.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 11 September 2003 02:39 (twenty years ago) link

I make no apologies for being VERY excited about this.

J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Thursday, 11 September 2003 05:29 (twenty years ago) link

6 degrees: i was at the ventura show too... eric drew feldman was the guy on keyboards

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 11 September 2003 06:29 (twenty years ago) link

Personally, I'm still waiting for that Martinis reunion.

Bruce Urquhart (Bruce Urquhart), Thursday, 11 September 2003 06:37 (twenty years ago) link

Pixies to Reunite in April?
Thu September 11, 2003 08:51 PM ET
By Troy Carpenter and Jonathan Cohen

NEW YORK (Billboard) - A decade after a bitter breakup, seminal alternative
rock act the Pixies may reunite next year.

Asked about rumors of a tour and a potential new studio album, the group's manager told Billboard.com:
"I have received an offer for the Pixies to perform in April. That said, over the past 10 years, I have
received dozens of offers for the Pixies."

A spokesperson for the group's former label, 4AD, had no comment on potential reunion plans.

The group's last major tour came while supporting U2 on a number of U.S. dates on the 1992 "Zoo TV"
trek.

Goldenvoice Promotions head Paul Tollett tells Billboard.com he has tried to book the Pixies "every year"
for the Coachella Valley Music & Arts Festival in Indio, Calif. "I still haven't made any movement," he
reports. " not sure if they are speaking to each other."

The Pixies -- vocalist/guitarist Black Francis, vocalist/bassist Kim Deal, lead guitarist Joey Santiago and
drummer David Lovering -- released four albums and an EP over the course of five years in the late 1980s
and early '90s, providing a blueprint for the alternative rock boom that dominated the latter decade.

In 1993, two years after the release of the group's final album, "Trompe Le Monde" (4AD/Elektra), Francis
(real name: Charles Thompson) sent a press release to the media announcing the breakup of the Pixies.

He went on to forge a solo career, now nine albums strong, as Frank Black. Deal found post-Pixies
success with the Breeders, whose 1994 album "Last Splash" (4AD/Elektra) peaked at No. 33 on The
Billboard 200 in 1994 and has sold 978,000 copies in the U.S., according to Nielsen SoundScan.

Black has been incorporating Pixies songs into live performances with his band the Catholics with
increasing regularity over the past few years.

Songs like "Where Is My Mind?," "Mr. Grieves," "Crackity Jones," "Nimrod's Son," "Holiday Song" and
"Gouge Away" have all surfaced in recent setlists, and a version of the latter recorded in April in Regina,
Saskatchewan, appears on a new Frank Black & the Catholics EP, "Nadine," licensed this week by
spinART exclusively to a number of independent U.S. retailers.

In July, Black told London radio station XFM that he still fantasized about reuniting his old band.

"I do dream about the Pixies reunion, I do have to say," he said. "It's like those schoolboy dreams when
you don't do your homework and you don't study for the test, but I'm at the gig and we're hanging out,
but it's an utter failure and I don't know the songs, and hardly anyone turns up for the gig and people walk
out. That's what I'm afraid of, that it'd be a big, big failure."

He added: "We might. We do get together and have private jams together, but not for public consumption."

During the Pixies' career, the group never made a huge commercial dent (their top-selling album is 1989's "Doolitte" at 552,000
copies).

But its impact on critics and fans was far-reaching. A handful of collections of Pixies material has surfaced during the band's
hiatus, including the 1997 Elektra double-CD set "Death to the Pixies," which featured favorites and live compilation discs. Last
year, spinART Records released "Pixies," a collection of unreleased songs from the band's original 1987 demo tape.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 12 September 2003 15:43 (twenty years ago) link

I missed the release of that demos disc. Is is worth getting?

N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 12 September 2003 15:49 (twenty years ago) link

only if you really really need it. only two or three songs not available in other versions. From the Come On Pilgrim sessions.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 12 September 2003 15:54 (twenty years ago) link

Hey check this out! http://www.stylusmagazine.com/review.php?ID=1302

dave q, Friday, 12 September 2003 17:38 (twenty years ago) link

Would I like the Pixies?

David. (Cozen), Friday, 12 September 2003 18:25 (twenty years ago) link

I'll hold my breath till April and then I'll follow them around America. The band I sang for in 89 cover Gigantic (I liked singing about a huge black penis, what can I say) and people were like "why are you covering that? are you making fun of them?" No way. The Pixies were solid plutonium. Come on Pilgrim and Surfa Rosa had the best songs I had heard in a long time. When Doolittle came out I was not as blown away but I cannot believe it only sold half a million copies??? I missed them opening for Love and Rockets as well as their club show two years before in a 150 capacity bar in Baltimore (god damn). I was touring or broke for the next four years and never got to see them.
To say the least, I am very excited if this turns out to be true.

Brandon Welch (Brandon Welch), Friday, 12 September 2003 19:17 (twenty years ago) link

this all makes me feel extremely old.

donut bitch (donut), Friday, 12 September 2003 22:18 (twenty years ago) link

when i was in japan in april, the tower records in shinjuku had a 2xCD Pixies "early demos for the purple tape", i mean ultra-archival, multiple takes on 4-track sort of release. i seem to remember the "label" was from south america but they had hundreds of copies. the price was the equivalent to $35 at the time. let me try to find it...

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 12 September 2003 22:47 (twenty years ago) link

Yesterday I picked up The Purple Tape 2 for $20. I just put it in my computer here at work and the track listing on my monitor is full of errors (e.g., listing Silver twice, Manta Ray twice..). Plus the tracklisting on the back insert is screwed up too. I've scanned in the front/back cover but can't figure out how to post them here. Most of the tracks sound like the Doolittle Demos (from the Give Me Ecstasy boot) but there are a few I haven't heard previously. A live version of Planet of Sound & Tame is interesting. Hang On To Your Ego, Pixies version, is cool. Gigantic has a different vocal take and some guitar tuning up at the beginning. Different guitar takes too. Isla de Encanta has different guitar parts too with people applauding at the end. At the bottom of the cd back insert it says "Brazilian compilation of rare tracks licensed from Cooking Vinyl." So perhaps this is an official release? I'd guess though that it's a bootleg with the tracklisting errors.

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 12 September 2003 22:53 (twenty years ago) link

also, i should say Charles doesn't seem like a *total* egomaniac, and - again, speculating - i'd guess that has gotten better as he's gotten older. but he still says things here and there that let you know he's in charge, the others are not, etc.

alpine static, Tuesday, 2 June 2020 17:55 (three years ago) link

being a rock band is (among the other things it is) a JOB and you can have a job that you don't feel any particular passion for but which you're good at and which is worth doing and which pays you and so you do it

this is not untrue, but i think it's a sad thing and not something to be celebrated. if you told me ahead of time that performer X was miserable and didn't enjoy putting on the shows, i think i definitely wouldn't go. how can you enjoy something like that ?

I'm sure the money was good, but life's too short. I couldn't somehow compartmentalize my contempt enough to get out there every other night, much less with band mates I didn't like

otm

she brings Kelley on tour and they seem to basically exist in a separate space from the others

this was def weird but also just pure gold. kelley clearly has this preternatural cinematic sensibility; she was able to seamlessly slip in and out of the role of "interviewer" and the way she was able to shape the narrative while in the shot was magnetic imo. like how she just spontaneously started interviewing the crowd lined up for the show e.g. or even in her ability to coax stuff out of kim.

the other members of the band i found to be interesting precisely for their lack of self-awareness and their inability to really say anything interesting; it was just so honest the way they just sort of threw around platitudes and, as personalities, maybe even as musical thinkers, couldn't reconcile their outsized roles as idk indie legends (?) with their basically normal everyday lives.

budo jeru, Tuesday, 2 June 2020 22:32 (three years ago) link

That opening footage of them playing Where Is My Mind is just unbearably depressing to me. I am sure I'm projecting, but the thought of servicing a few thousand millennial randos who saw fight club -- I'm sure the money was good, but life's too short. I couldn't somehow compartmentalize my contempt enough to get out there every other night, much less with band mates I didn't like

I saw them on that reunion tour and it was bad. Zero energy, though I don't know that they were ever a great live act.

(The Breeders OTOH have been great every time I've seen them.)

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 22:51 (three years ago) link

I love Kim, but the three or four or five times I've seen the Breeders they've been ... just OK. But Kim is such a positive presence - does she ever not smile? - and they always seemed to be having a good time.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 2 June 2020 22:53 (three years ago) link

I don't know that they were ever a great live act

They were great the first time I saw them! Probably not quite on the treadmill by that point I suppose.

dominance and transmission (Matt #2), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 23:32 (three years ago) link

They were great the first time I saw them - which was the 11th show of the reunion in 2004 (Boise).

Admittedly, my anticipation of finally seeing those songs live likely influenced by opinion of the show. There was hardly any talking in between songs.

They headlined Coachella a week later and I went, but skipped the set to see Moving Units.

alpine static, Tuesday, 2 June 2020 23:54 (three years ago) link

I saw them in 2007 and it was really lovely - it was their first ever trip to Australia so maybe there was some kind of novelty in playing to adoring crowds for the first time

The opening was amazing - In Heaven, then Wave of Mutilation (UK Surf) then Bone Machine - such a graceful arc into delivering the crowd-pleasing goods

Comparisons to The Who upthread OTM, possibly re personality but also re unique musical contributions - like they are a real "only these 4 people can make this exact sound" band, and anything else is a facsimile

umsworth (emsworth), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 01:21 (three years ago) link

the 3 shows I went to were all at least decent, I was never disappointed, although I did know not to expect a great live act going in.

2004 was at a festival, it wasn't the best time or place to see them, my wife had sunstroke and my friends were pretty drunk (as was I tbf) and shouted a lot and I just wanted to watch the band, but my hazy memory is that it was good

2005 was a lot better, I was really excited to see them which helped, they seemed to be happy to be on stage then tbh, Kim & Charles didn't talk a lot but when they did they were charming, Joey did some guitar theatrics, good gig

2019 was a warm up gig so the smallest place I've seen them, again they didn't do much on stage but I guess having a new album might've got them more interested in playing, the new album isn't going to blow anyone's minds but some of the songs sounded fine mixed in with the old stuff

I think if you know what to expect, they will play the songs well but not v passionately, but they weren't known much for being a live act, hell I've been to a v boring Frank Black solo gig before and they were always better than that. Maybe I missed the worst of the by the numbers we hating being here years because I skipped 14 years?

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 3 June 2020 01:34 (three years ago) link

Yeah, tbh, I've seen Frank Black live a few times, and he and his band killed it.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 3 June 2020 03:31 (three years ago) link

Ha, Emsworth, sounds like you were at the same Sydney show I was at! I thought it was pretty good, stunned at Charles’ ability to summon the screams 20 years down the track.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 07:37 (three years ago) link

and yes Kim Deal is a god on par with a fundamental law of nature

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 07:38 (three years ago) link

Hey Matthew K! Yeh Sydney at Luna Park - I thought the show had a nice vibe, certainly relative to any dour, dialing-it-in reports above - Kim in particular I remember beaming through the whole thing

experience definitely given a sentimental boost by my high school self being v.pleased to finally see The Pixies - haven't had the slightest urge to go to any subsequent tours though - if they had made a new album with Kim then maybe, ISTR it was in the air for a while and maybe Bluefinger was the slightly disappointing result?

umsworth (emsworth), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 09:17 (three years ago) link

Colonel Poo - we might have seen them at the same gigs. I saw them at a festival in 2004 (think it was V - in the park near Chelmsford, anyway) and then at Alexandra Palace in 2005.

The Rampaging Goats of Llandudno (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 10:27 (three years ago) link

Exactly the same experience for me Emsworth, I was about 20 feet in front of Kim and she lit the room. I was excited for new music after I heard Bam Thwok but I was completely unsurprised when she bailed from the album sessions. I was disappointed she’d agreed to it actually.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 10:36 (three years ago) link

jealous of you two, I went to V and had to bail halfway through the Pet Shop Boys making 6,000 shirtless homosexuals dance and laugh and spin, to catch an hour and a bit of 8,000 thirtysomethings standing nearly completely still watching four fiftysomethings standing completely still, one of them smiling

absolutely idiotic scheduling decision, Pixies should have been on at 6:30 pm so they and the Pixies-specific part of the audience could be in bed by dark.

and then had Soulwax close. after the PSB, not overlapping.

massage angry pixels (sic), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 10:54 (three years ago) link

This band is such a bummer. In the sense that, when they were largely mysterious and faceless in the late 80s, their music sounded like it was coming from outer space or something. Everything over the last 20 years has just been depressing. I know they need money, but just.... do something else.

paulhw, Wednesday, 3 June 2020 12:31 (three years ago) link

otm alas

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 12:36 (three years ago) link

I'm very much at peace with it. I think of them as two different bands.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 3 June 2020 13:09 (three years ago) link

I think they were the catalyst of literally every band who had a 80s/90s semi-hit getting back together

i will FP you and your entire family (rip van wanko), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 14:14 (three years ago) link

Hmm. I'm trying to think of other '80s and '90s bands that broke up but got back together after the Pixies. They always seemed kind of like a big fish that followed all the other reunions. Television, Gang of Four, Mission of Burma, Wire and so on.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 3 June 2020 14:16 (three years ago) link

Pixies inspired Slowdive, Ride, that generation

i will FP you and your entire family (rip van wanko), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 14:19 (three years ago) link

eh, I think the return of mbv did that.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 3 June 2020 14:23 (three years ago) link

Touche

i will FP you and your entire family (rip van wanko), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 14:25 (three years ago) link

My brain won't let me access American indie bands who may have reformed in the sights but there are a bunch

i will FP you and your entire family (rip van wanko), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 14:27 (three years ago) link

aughts

i will FP you and your entire family (rip van wanko), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 14:27 (three years ago) link

I'm very much at peace with it. I think of them as two different bands.

― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, June 3, 2020 6:09 AM (four hours ago)

this exact feeling clicked for me several years ago. i don't really think of post-reunion activities as damaging their legacy, because as far as i'm concerned the legacy of the original Pixies is set in stone. (maybe that's not fair / doesn't make sense, but that's where i'm at.)

and what they do now doesn't bum me out! i mean, those guys built a band lots of ppl will pay to see and they have bills to pay. who am i to stop them from working? it's fine ... there are a million other (newer) bands to be excited about.

alpine static, Wednesday, 3 June 2020 18:02 (three years ago) link

Happy birthday, Kim and Kelley

alpine static, Wednesday, 10 June 2020 15:49 (three years ago) link

wow, what are the chances of them sharing the same birthday

Prosecutor Bradley Tankerton (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 10 June 2020 15:56 (three years ago) link

lol

budo jeru, Thursday, 11 June 2020 17:28 (three years ago) link


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